tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post113217359661739401..comments2024-03-07T15:25:26.971-05:00Comments on ICEUFT Blog: Living Under a Sellout Contract…Union Says, “Just SBO It!”Jeff Kaufmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11728874415155394751noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-1133676825632796882005-12-04T01:13:00.000-05:002005-12-04T01:13:00.000-05:00It somewhat reminds me of when Saddam Hussein (in ...It somewhat reminds me of when Saddam Hussein (in 2002)wins 100 percent of the vote. <BR/><BR/>"Like it or not, the membership has spoken."<BR/><BR/>I'm sure the vote was fair and accurate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-1133662486361996462005-12-03T21:14:00.000-05:002005-12-03T21:14:00.000-05:00I like the term limit idea. Like bread, leadership...I like the term limit idea. Like bread, leadership that's been around for too long becomes stale.Richard Skibinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01383236094114804166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-1133588807331232752005-12-03T00:46:00.000-05:002005-12-03T00:46:00.000-05:00The literature mailed to the membership had the ty...The literature mailed to the membership had the typical Unity spin. We lost so many things, but Weingarten claimed that it was a victory because of some token bullsh*t about bulletin boards! And rather than using the threat of a strike against management, she used it against the <I>membership</I>! Now, Dump Unity is right. My DR told me that she told Randi that the deal was awful. Randi told her that if she said one more word, then she would remove her from her DR position. <BR/><BR/>The answer is clear: we must reform the UFT laws. Have the DR's elected by the district members, not appointed by Randi. Stop the slate voting. Have each position voted as a separate vote. Have elementary elect its officers and VP. Have middle school, high school, and District 75 do likewise. And, impose term limits. If it's good enough for the city, it's good enough for the UFT.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-1133572087539022282005-12-02T20:08:00.000-05:002005-12-02T20:08:00.000-05:00The details of the contract were available to the ...The details of the contract were available to the entire membership. Every member had a copy of the Agreement mailed to them. The Agreement was also available online. And lots of 'explanatory' position papers were put out by various factions of the UFT. If 60% of the membership voted for the contract, it was because they accepted it. Like it or not, the membership has spoken.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-1133365808333746282005-11-30T10:50:00.000-05:002005-11-30T10:50:00.000-05:00A lot of teachers in my school believed our UFT re...A lot of teachers in my school believed our UFT rep. when she told them it was the best we could do and if we vote no, we will strike! And if not strike , we will go four years without a raise. A lot of teachers were scared. They really felt they had no choice. A couple of teachers actually felt it was a good contract until I explained to them what we were giving up and the terrible precedent this contract was setting. Again, the UFT rep. stressed to them it's the best we were going to get. I have contempt for those who told me outright that they were voting yes because they will be retiring in a couple of years. I'm really angry at those who knew this was a bad deal but said nothing. I blame Randi and Co. They are the ones who knew this was a crappy deal and did everything they possibly could to get it ratified. If the details of the contract were known to the entire membership, there was no way it was going to pass.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-1133324469238564422005-11-29T23:21:00.000-05:002005-11-29T23:21:00.000-05:00Richard -- Can't we blame both Unity and the mem...Richard --<BR/><BR/> Can't we blame both Unity and the membership? Why did 60% say yes to this contract?<BR/><BR/> Unity and the membership are responsible.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-1133319867472505622005-11-29T22:04:00.000-05:002005-11-29T22:04:00.000-05:00She is not: how rude! She's busy with her resume, ...She is not: how rude! She's busy with her resume, and she's got Unity running around trying to stamp out the seeds of discontent.... Attempting to smear, crush and discredit all voices that want reform and change--instead of embracing reform.<BR/>But the upcoming "historical" (read: hysterical) DA is the best Unity can do--and it should be humurous.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-1133311503669620882005-11-29T19:45:00.000-05:002005-11-29T19:45:00.000-05:00She won't answer you because she is too busy think...She won't answer you because she is too busy thinking of photo ops and what we can give up next time around.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-1133219711599954452005-11-28T18:15:00.000-05:002005-11-28T18:15:00.000-05:00If this new contract protects against micromanagem...If this new contract protects against micromanagement, then why are principals doing "walkthroughs" and handing out classroom evaluations and "suggestions" on how to arrange your room and bulletin boards????????????<BR/><BR/>The UFT is aware of this, yet nothing was done to stop it.<BR/>Why is that Randi???????Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-1133140529292789562005-11-27T20:15:00.000-05:002005-11-27T20:15:00.000-05:00Anonymous""We" did not vote for the contract. 40% ...Anonymous"<BR/>"We" did not vote for the contract. 40% voted against it. As far as lawsuits, harassment is a crime the last I heard. And the UFT leadership is derelict in their duty for not protecting the membership against harassment. A good union leadership would have fought Chancellor Klein at every turn without giving a rat's *ss about what the media nad the public think.Richard Skibinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01383236094114804166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-1133132754644716592005-11-27T18:05:00.000-05:002005-11-27T18:05:00.000-05:00Richard -- What are we filing a lawsuit about? W...Richard --<BR/><BR/> What are we filing a lawsuit about? We voted for a contract which gave us more time for money.<BR/><BR/> The membership is as much to blame as Unity. This is what is so upsetting. Put a K into money and you have monkey. Monkey see, monkey do, monkey follow UFT leadership!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-1133114591735326732005-11-27T13:03:00.000-05:002005-11-27T13:03:00.000-05:00District Representatives should be elected by the ...District Representatives should be elected by the membership. There is no reason why they shouldn't be (except of course then our leadership couldn't ensure that they were all Unity lackeys). This is an issue that needs to be addressed immediately.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-1133105470918527902005-11-27T10:31:00.000-05:002005-11-27T10:31:00.000-05:00We can file complaints with the state department o...We can file complaints with the state department of labor, or even file our own personal lawsuits. I would even go as far as suing the UFT.Richard Skibinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01383236094114804166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-1133032159785272552005-11-26T14:09:00.000-05:002005-11-26T14:09:00.000-05:00A very worrisome state of affairs. My opinion is ...A very worrisome state of affairs. My opinion is start investigating schools outside of the New York City system. There may be some nicer schools in NJ or Westchester or Nassau Cty.<BR/><BR/>I am not going to worry about pension etc. My biggest concern is to have secure, fair working conditions. I can't go to work everyday and walk on eggshells.<BR/><BR/>Worse possible scenario is that I'll look for a job in another field if need be. One thing I am certain of ...I will not teach a 6th period.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-1132975750873709532005-11-25T22:29:00.000-05:002005-11-25T22:29:00.000-05:00Hey anonymous, I am not Karnak. Nor do I even go...Hey anonymous,<BR/><BR/> I am not Karnak. Nor do I even go to the DA meetings, although I did manage to sneak in to the crucial one and even vote.... ha,ha. <BR/><BR/> The rubber room is a sham. Teachers sit there with trumped up charges leveled against them that have no basis in reality. If you want names, I can give you names.<BR/><BR/> A responsible, caring union would be in that rubber room every day of the week fighting "tooth and nail" to exonerate these teachers.<BR/><BR/> You could care less about teachers or any of their rights! You only care about ridiculing serious, intelligent, independent minded teachers who want a decent contract.<BR/><BR/> No need to wish me a Merry Christmas. I celebrate Hanukah. No doubt this small fact will get wrapped up in your litany of insults!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-1132929245439996632005-11-25T09:34:00.000-05:002005-11-25T09:34:00.000-05:00District 32District 32Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-1132720169640175042005-11-22T23:29:00.000-05:002005-11-22T23:29:00.000-05:00abused...which district in region 4?abused...<BR/><BR/>which district in region 4?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-1132686183492791242005-11-22T14:03:00.000-05:002005-11-22T14:03:00.000-05:00I need this question answered: My principal has th...I need this question answered: My principal has the balls to say that instead of the 37 1/2 period at the end of the day, she will extend each period by 5 minutes. This <I>couldn't</I> be legal, could it? Please direct me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-1132622496511479052005-11-21T20:21:00.000-05:002005-11-21T20:21:00.000-05:00Karnak-How very clever you are to be able to disce...Karnak-<BR/><BR/>How very clever you are to be able to discern my IQ through one or two comments on this blog. Be careful that you don't reveal this hidden 'talent' to too many people or you'll end up with your compadres in the rubber room.<BR/> <BR/>I do so admire your facility with words. That comment about your little toe nail is just sooo witty. I look forward to hearing you make a fool out of yourself at the DA.<BR/><BR/>Oh, and I wish you a Merry Christmas too, as well as a Happy Thanksgiving.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-1132532362634374942005-11-20T19:19:00.000-05:002005-11-20T19:19:00.000-05:00Hey Anon: I got just 2 words for you -- and it i...Hey Anon:<BR/><BR/> I got just 2 words for you -- and it isn't "Merry Christmas."<BR/><BR/> I have more intelligence in my little toe nail than you have in your entire brain. And if you let Norm make a little robot for you, you may actually increase your IQ to 85.<BR/><BR/> No wonder we are in so much trouble -- look at the rubbish that is allowed to teach AND work for Unity!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-1132528054669864072005-11-20T18:07:00.000-05:002005-11-20T18:07:00.000-05:00Anon 1:57-Self-serving? Isn't that what ICE stands...Anon 1:57-<BR/><BR/>Self-serving? Isn't that what ICE stands for, the Intergalactic Confusion of Egotists?<BR/><BR/>And thanks, but I already have a BIG job: I'm a New York City public school teacher.<BR/><BR/>As for the little robot Norm could make for me, he's already done that by creating you. And I do so enjoy the few things he allows you to say.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-1132518449392905182005-11-20T15:27:00.000-05:002005-11-20T15:27:00.000-05:00Anonymous said:"And I applaud the chapter leaders ...Anonymous said:<BR/><I>"And I applaud the chapter leaders of Region 4 for keeping your poisonous lies out of the mailboxes. Seems to me Unity's DR's are quite competent."</I><BR/><BR/>Well, let me say a few things:<BR/>1. I, an elected chapter delegate who is fed up with the poisonous Unity lies, distributed ICE and TJC handouts exposing the truth about the sellout contract. One of my colleagues then decided to join TJC.<BR/><BR/>2. While my DR may be competent, she is still a Weingarten stooge. She actually had the nerve to admonish me for hanging anti-Weingarten literature and for wearing an anti-Weingarten T-shirt in the building on a non-instructional day. <BR/><BR/>3. The DR's must toe the line because Weingarten actually has threatened several of them with removal from their DR positions for having the nerve to tell her that the contract stinks. The UFT sounds more and more like the USSR every day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-1132502648297960852005-11-20T11:04:00.000-05:002005-11-20T11:04:00.000-05:00Oh yes, the BASIS DR is a known giant of unionism....Oh yes, the BASIS DR is a known giant of unionism. Largest geographical area, but no car? With that huge salary? How can you hold the job for that long, but not get to the schools...?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-1132469862531469052005-11-20T01:57:00.000-05:002005-11-20T01:57:00.000-05:00Anon -- Norm and everyone else is fed up with Uni...Anon --<BR/><BR/> Norm and everyone else is fed up with Unity because they are self serving liars. You are the best representation with your poisonous little lies. Lucky for you you have a little job -- no one else would ever bother to hire you.<BR/><BR/> Maybe Norm can make you a little robot to keep you company!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-1132452571153622142005-11-19T21:09:00.000-05:002005-11-19T21:09:00.000-05:00Norm'I do not understand why the UFT educrats hate...Norm'<BR/><BR/><BR/>I do not understand why the UFT educrats hate you so. It seems to me that your suggestions are good ones.<BR/><BR/>I think Randi and her stooges should be working hard to ensure that the DOE does not force the classroom teacher into a sixth period. Instead it seems that they are more interested in worrying about world politics.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com