tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post2117172883864389150..comments2024-03-07T15:25:26.971-05:00Comments on ICEUFT Blog: SUE EDELMAN COVERS DOE GRADE INFLATION/FRAUD ISSUEJeff Kaufmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11728874415155394751noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-39485535037856694602019-07-04T15:20:01.570-04:002019-07-04T15:20:01.570-04:00The anonymous commenters here are venting. We are ...The anonymous commenters here are venting. We are providing a road map that they can take using the contract. Some, maybe not the commenters here, will use it. James Eternohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13578647381229034792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-35935756388882143222019-07-04T12:54:10.725-04:002019-07-04T12:54:10.725-04:00I don't condone grade inflation but explained ...I don't condone grade inflation but explained the way the UFT thinks -- politically, not educationally. we must always consider context. Instead of really fighting charters and ed deformers from day 1 the UFT played a neutral or supportive game. When the axe came down blaming teachers for everything the UFT was left holding the bag and forced to defend the schools no matter how bad as a way in their distorted view to protect teachers - and tenure from further attacks. You don't expect the deformers to blame Bloomberg or Klein but are happy to attack Di Blasio because he is viewed as anti-deformer -- but to me he is not much different.<br />James - I would have hope for more rebellion if I saw more people in the comments section showing willingness to stand up publicly like you and others always did. Constantly griping anonymously about where the UFT has been gets nothing - also blaming the UFT for everything gets so old when people don't take individual responsibility for acting. ed notes onlinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15018047869059226777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-59192054943335377232019-07-03T06:17:57.977-04:002019-07-03T06:17:57.977-04:005:29 and 7:18 sound like individuals that work in ...5:29 and 7:18 sound like individuals that work in a bubble called LA LA LAND OR are sleeping with administration. Stop Trolling. The RESPECT UFT members have for Mr.Eterno makes your comments sound petty. WHAH WHAH WHAH go cry yourselves a river. I am sure your principal will change your diapers cause right about now you both are full of CACA just like your comments. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-18471659802029305952019-07-02T21:36:39.093-04:002019-07-02T21:36:39.093-04:00Relax buddy the CSA guy is back. Ben Sherman has l...Relax buddy the CSA guy is back. Ben Sherman has lots of free time in his new job so he is attacking you again anonymously or some other CSA troll has taken the job on.<br /><br />This blog is very mild. It calls for some principals to be removed from buildings, not fired. If this blog was aggressively anti-administrator, it would call for terminations of sad excuses for educational leaders like Ben Sherman or Howard Kwait and not placing them in cushy administrative positions after they destroy schools.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-29862146227169333762019-07-02T20:45:51.842-04:002019-07-02T20:45:51.842-04:00We should work with administration whenever possib...We should work with administration whenever possible, particularly when there is common ground like on the evaluation system. <br /><br />That said, everyone knows that the disciplinary process is often used for personal and/or political reasons against teachers. I stand by my colleagues. <br /><br />Hard to respond on specific administrators when I don't know the school you are talking about.James Eternohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13578647381229034792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-8349671418322967862019-07-02T19:18:36.627-04:002019-07-02T19:18:36.627-04:005:29 is just now realizing that James is a joke. I...5:29 is just now realizing that James is a joke. I too dont like James for going after my principal as well and for other reasons.<br /><br />James, what's your definition of going after a teacher anyway. We all see the pattern. A teacher or two calls you about their principal and they're automatically on your blog. When I read these blogs, they are so one sided. Is the admin the only person at fault, did the teacher do anything at all? Tell us the whole story not part.<br /><br />I work with 2-3 teachers that should not be in front of students. The admin SHOULD go after them. But not by your logic. <br /><br />This is the first time I've ever seen you agree that Principals and teachers should unify because people are starting to call you out and exposing you. <br />I recommend spending your retirement free time to discuss how to unify both unions than the hate another admin or DOE crap.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-71574790017776572662019-07-02T10:05:38.200-04:002019-07-02T10:05:38.200-04:00Inflated grades, academic curriculums water down i...Inflated grades, academic curriculums water down in high schools....it disgusting how politics first ...and children and are LAST!!! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-79308120640716905822019-07-02T09:55:52.055-04:002019-07-02T09:55:52.055-04:00Ed Notes is now an apologist for the UFT condoning...Ed Notes is now an apologist for the UFT condoning grade fraud as a way to combat charter schools. Are you now buying into the entire market based premise of school reform that schools succeed or fail based on the quality of the teaching? Anyone who has been in a school knows this is bullshit. The culture of poverty is the main problem. <br /><br />Many parents want charter schools because there is discipline. We need some order in public schools too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-5528178700755617472019-07-02T08:55:14.812-04:002019-07-02T08:55:14.812-04:00We wrote a piece on how to use the contract to sto...We wrote a piece on how to use the contract to stop grade inflation on June 19th Norm. We have power we choose not to use.<br /><br />https://iceuftblog.blogspot.com/2019/06/use-contract-to-stop-grade-fraud.html?m=1<br /><br />I do not favor ridiculous standards but not having any standards at all does these kids no favor.James Eternohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13578647381229034792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-87452419667087298452019-07-02T08:45:51.706-04:002019-07-02T08:45:51.706-04:00School by school rebellion Norm. Compared to what ...School by school rebellion Norm. Compared to what I am hearing now, we had rigorous standards at Jamaica. Kids had to show up and could write basic stuff. Many didn't make it. We were closed. James Eternohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13578647381229034792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-69799087185269321072019-07-02T08:40:52.422-04:002019-07-02T08:40:52.422-04:00I agree with your conclusion 5:29. We are in this ...I agree with your conclusion 5:29. We are in this evaluation boat together with the principals who are stuck with the same evaluation system as us. <br /><br />I do not make blanket statements against all principals, just those who unfairly target staff, especially when they go after union activists. That should not be tolerated by UFT but it is sadly in multiple cases. James Eternohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13578647381229034792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-26872067717790317372019-07-02T07:52:54.216-04:002019-07-02T07:52:54.216-04:00The story "The Emperor has no Clothes" w...The story "The Emperor has no Clothes" was written over 150 years ago. The difference between then and now is that, in current times, the emperor doesn't care that he has no clothes. <br /><br />The Regents exam scores are a blatant example of grade inflation. On the Algebra Regents, a 31% converts to 65%. This grade inflation fish is rotting from the head, down. <br /><br />The corruption is education has been exposed over and over again, yet nothing changes. Why? because education has become a multi-billion dollar business. The teacher's unions have jumped on this band wagon. Book and test publishers have jumped on the bandwagon. So many experts, authors, conferences, consultants, etc. Why? Education is a multi-billion dollar business. <br /><br />I cannot think of any other legal business, other than perhaps politics, in which such incompetent, immoral and simpleminded people can hold positions of power, authority and take, make, and spend so much money! <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-30696891967059243102019-07-02T07:46:44.844-04:002019-07-02T07:46:44.844-04:00James
THis story has been going around since Bloom...James<br />THis story has been going around since Bloomberg took over - you used to joke about Jamaica HS having drive by diplomas.<br />The UFT has a stake in grade inflation and phony grad rates -- they and you know that with massive failure the attack gets focused on teacher quality even if not true and the enemies use it to attack tenure which happened a decade ago. <br />Politically the UFT has to say how well the schools are doing or else that opens us up to breaking the charter cap.<br />We live in a different world from the pre-ed deform days. Did ICE in its election runs call for grade inflation to stop?<br />As to your call for teachers to rebel en masse - one of the funniest things you have to say. By what mechanism would they rebel? And rebel against whom?<br />ed notes onlinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15018047869059226777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-65720842735802816892019-07-02T05:29:08.870-04:002019-07-02T05:29:08.870-04:00That's why James is not a leader and why other...That's why James is not a leader and why others teachers in my school and I don't trust his opinions. He really doesn't know whats going on. <br /><br />His anti admin rhetoric is all he cares about. His blog history is full of calling out admin including my own principal, unjustly, without all of the facts.<br /><br />What's really helpful is to provide all sides of an issue and letting us decide. Not just the UFT or teacher side. You can't properly solve an issue by just looking at one side. <br /><br /><br />My whole perception and understanding of admin has changed as I am reading comments of others why most admin do what they do in reference to grades and so forth. The problem is bigger then them.<br /><br />Step your game up James. UFT and CSA would need to work together to change things. Not point fingers.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-58997379527945465732019-07-01T19:34:39.685-04:002019-07-01T19:34:39.685-04:00It won't happen until we all rebel en masse.It won't happen until we all rebel en masse.James Eternohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13578647381229034792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-59844052962912736652019-07-01T19:33:58.743-04:002019-07-01T19:33:58.743-04:00The evaluation system has to go for both teachers ...The evaluation system has to go for both teachers and principals. James Eternohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13578647381229034792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-63623764944765273172019-07-01T19:13:05.535-04:002019-07-01T19:13:05.535-04:00I believe most schools commit fraud. No one school...I believe most schools commit fraud. No one school should be singled out. I know James you like to believe only admin promotes fraud. Teachers do it as well.<br />I learned from other teachers in my school how to "fix" MOSL growth based exams by encouraging students to fail or not take the exam seriously. But when the final MOSL exam comes, students were encouraged to take it seriously to indicate growth and salvage our MOSL rating. Why? Our evaluations are linked to this. You, myself and other teachers dont say anything about this. <br /><br />But you call out or villify admin who do the same thing as I learned from Chaz and a blogger in a previous post that principals evaluations are linked to graduation rates and passing of classes. They are simply trying to keep their jobs like we are.<br /><br />The problem is obviously systemic. We should not be looking for a bad guy or a single school. We should aim to influence the powers that be who created this flawed system.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-37876387352768786442019-07-01T18:02:54.269-04:002019-07-01T18:02:54.269-04:00Classroom grades and state exam grades cannot be c...Classroom grades and state exam grades cannot be compared. Teachers are required to differentiate process, product, content, and provide SDI in the classroom. The state exams do not differentiate. So what do citizens, and the government expect exactly? What's with the surprise? Of course there is a discrepancy.<br /><br />Monday, July 01, 2019 11:48:00 AM<br /><br />11:48<br /><br />Citizens of NY state expect the schools to provide instruction which leads to the students mastering the material and skills which will be tested on the state exams. This was NEVER as much of a problem as it is today because of the instructional requirements you eluded to... The requirements of the teacher have been imposed as a result of the Danielson Observation Framework. DANIELSON IS DESTROYING PUBLIC EDUCATION IN NYC....AS IT WAS DESIGNED TO DO! It requires teachers in NYC to perform all sorts of procedures and activities in their classrooms ("look-fors") which have nothing to do with preparing the students for the state exams. After 6 years of Damielson, it is no surprise many NYC students aren't passing the state exams.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-49071436826277955492019-07-01T17:58:40.652-04:002019-07-01T17:58:40.652-04:00I read the piece you linked to. I did not concur w...I read the piece you linked to. I did not concur with all of her opinions but the conclusion makes perfect sense but won't happen until the teachers rebel en masse:<br /><br />"The first step is to change the 'anti-discrimination' laws that breed anti-social behavior. Disruptive students must be removed from the classroom, not to punish them but to protect the majority of students who want to learn."James Eternohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13578647381229034792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-20846627656753838702019-07-01T17:05:38.237-04:002019-07-01T17:05:38.237-04:00This heartfelt article from a teacher gives a real...This heartfelt article from a teacher gives a real, on-the-ground sense of why things are impossible in our Black and Hispanic schools. And it's not any one teacher's fault. Teachers are put into a no-win situation where they are hand-cuffed, told to shut up, and do nothing. It's politics and ideology. And it's tragic. https://quillette.com/2019/02/10/public-educations-dirty-secret/<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-6602659241301655732019-07-01T15:54:34.959-04:002019-07-01T15:54:34.959-04:00I agree. The UFT is complicit in this and has been...I agree. The UFT is complicit in this and has been for years. Individual teachers that throw down the gauntlet and say NO have found themselves in the ATR pool or worse - terminated. I know of several of these cases and the UFT knows of all of them. Saying NO has to be done in unison as an entire school - until teachers are willing to do that, things will get progressively worse.Bronx ATRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08787717237141454628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-19283290226310678922019-07-01T15:23:40.178-04:002019-07-01T15:23:40.178-04:00We need to fight it collectively school by school ...We need to fight it collectively school by school as a union from the ground up.James Eternohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13578647381229034792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-10705879408488110032019-07-01T14:58:19.204-04:002019-07-01T14:58:19.204-04:002:32 - So if we're brave and fail them, then w...2:32 - So if we're brave and fail them, then what? Do they get an IEP? You're told to differentiate more. Your SDI is not special enough. The principal changes the grades. The parents come in and demand they pass. Where does that bravery get a teacher? Anyway, the curriculum is bullshit and archaic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-51734790074266674672019-07-01T14:32:11.156-04:002019-07-01T14:32:11.156-04:00You cowards pass them to save your own asses. You ...You cowards pass them to save your own asses. You are part of the fraud. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-62363559383445066602019-07-01T14:28:51.749-04:002019-07-01T14:28:51.749-04:00Discrepancy? HS who can't write a sentence?Discrepancy? HS who can't write a sentence? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com