tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post5210187930495442157..comments2024-03-07T15:25:26.971-05:00Comments on ICEUFT Blog: NO MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT FOR UFT CONTRACT TONIGHTJeff Kaufmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11728874415155394751noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-32083476007690226482014-05-06T20:57:07.950-04:002014-05-06T20:57:07.950-04:00http://www.uft.org/files/attachments/moa-contract-...http://www.uft.org/files/attachments/moa-contract-2014.pdf<br /><br />http://www.uft.org/our-rights/proposed-contract/salary-schedules-proposed-2009-2018-contract<br /><br />http://www.uft.org/files/attachments/secure/teacher-schedule-2009-2018.pdfAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-81620874425932887182014-05-06T11:02:08.831-04:002014-05-06T11:02:08.831-04:00Bottom Line: Do I get my RETRO--retired 2012-July ...Bottom Line: Do I get my RETRO--retired 2012-July 1st?<br /><br />""The phase-in of the retroactive raises has no bearing on the final amount of retro payments you'll receive. All in-service and retired members will receive 100 percent of the money they are entitled to, compounded back to Nov. 1, 2009, by 2020.""<br /><br />TIA<br /><br />AlAlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08001192112563685660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-83514899626276733892014-05-06T09:37:13.909-04:002014-05-06T09:37:13.909-04:00VOTE NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!VOTE NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-13922113833700607432014-05-06T00:30:11.524-04:002014-05-06T00:30:11.524-04:00How are we supposed to decide to vote yes or know
...How are we supposed to decide to vote yes or know<br />on a contract we have no credible information about.<br />No written facts have been forthcoming. Everything put<br />out by the UFT is an infomercial as opposed to written,<br />detailed facts. All that leaves for us is to waste time and<br />energy guessing and speculating. My personal philosophy, after decades of contracts that were successively worse, is to assume that this is another sell<br />out with slate of hand tricks. The fact that all this time <br />has gone by since the press conference and not a shred<br />of written detail is being put forth speaks for itself. No<br />use making any wild guesses or assumptions about<br />retro pay compound interest etc. The only safe assumption is we get a few crumbs we dont know about for give backs that remain a mystery.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-32797635499134710482014-05-05T23:28:50.256-04:002014-05-05T23:28:50.256-04:00What kind of a raise will we really get once we st...What kind of a raise will we really get once we start paying more for health insurance? The raise will go toward the new premium payments. Don't be fooled UFT members. It happened in Toledo, Ohio to their teachers. They voted yes on a new contract without knowing what the new health insurance changes were. They trusted their union reps who said the changes were good and would save them money in the long run. A few teachers urged the others to vote no until they were told what the changes were, but they didn't listen and voted yes ( Well, they ended up with major health insurance cuts as well as pay cuts. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-74639664798913555452014-05-05T23:03:20.211-04:002014-05-05T23:03:20.211-04:00The rotation is demeaning enough. If you are in a...The rotation is demeaning enough. If you are in a provisional assignment, you are basically on probation and can easily be dismissed. Two principals can gang up on anyone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-83276048643061131762014-05-05T22:26:21.739-04:002014-05-05T22:26:21.739-04:00ATRs don't want to rotate or get placed into s...ATRs don't want to rotate or get placed into schools with vacancies. What do they want. And if two principals cite an ATR for problematic behavior(not based on pedagogy) then the ATR gets a 3020a hearing where the burden of proof is on the admins. Also many ATRs go to schools and are not placed into the vacancies. If they aren't placed in vacancies then that policy doesn't apply. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-43723797162869934132014-05-05T22:17:10.787-04:002014-05-05T22:17:10.787-04:00They can't release the details of the contract...They can't release the details of the contract until it is ready? What the hell does that mean. It has to be written down somewhere. All you need to do is cut and paste it and slap it up. The true reason (my belief no proof but gut, history and experience) is they haven't finished their misleading question and answer sheet they are preparing to help pull the wool over the teachers eyes. Gosh how our union loves their question and answers fact sheets.Unitymustgo!noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-76212830260801256882014-05-05T21:14:55.735-04:002014-05-05T21:14:55.735-04:00Stop whining people!!! I look to this site for in...Stop whining people!!! I look to this site for information and it's great. But, this is turning into such a fringe element.<br />Signed,<br />Teacher, ten years NYCDOEAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-89176819506934126812014-05-05T21:11:55.105-04:002014-05-05T21:11:55.105-04:00I am voting no and doing everything I can to enlig...I am voting no and doing everything I can to enlighten the staff at my school about this "landmark" deal that is making me angrier each day. I was thinking maybe a list of questions could be put together for us to have when the uft comes to our school cheering about what a great contract we have and why we should vote it in? We can post them everywhere and hopefully these young teachers will start to ask some questions! Just a thought…Will do anything to get the message out! And then I'm gonna call wells fargo and tell them I'll pay them in six years- that should be ok right?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-15136926523862298182014-05-05T21:10:15.288-04:002014-05-05T21:10:15.288-04:00This is a good contract! Nearly 20% more (compou...This is a good contract! Nearly 20% more (compounded raises) within four years! No give-backs. You gotta be kidding me that you want to vote no! How do you possibly expect to do better? Do you want 21%??? Would getting the retro tomorrow actually make you think that you are now made whole? Maybe you want to re-visit Bloomberg and get five more years of zeros? Think about it.<br /><br />Vote yes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-61744519394071391322014-05-05T20:53:28.817-04:002014-05-05T20:53:28.817-04:00How many paperwork committees are now in the contr...How many paperwork committees are now in the contract? More wasted time in professional development, calling parents and staying for four open school nights for three hours instead of two. It's easier to communicate via computer in 2014. Less time with the kids and more time for nonsense. Only a gain in the world of Carmen Farina and Michael Mulgrew. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-54517127859036184792014-05-05T20:48:03.852-04:002014-05-05T20:48:03.852-04:00Hey 8:35 pm. Do you know Solidarity Forever? ATR...Hey 8:35 pm. Do you know Solidarity Forever? ATRs are union members too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-21053181095694092802014-05-05T20:47:20.946-04:002014-05-05T20:47:20.946-04:00I am an ATR. I don't want to go to an expedit...I am an ATR. I don't want to go to an expedited disciplinary hearing and get fired because the two Leadership Academy Principals say I'm unprofessional.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-69241506464949662452014-05-05T20:35:57.225-04:002014-05-05T20:35:57.225-04:00All of those improvements to our working condition...All of those improvements to our working conditions (examples: Ability to grieve paperwork another ability to grieve not being given a curriculum another extra time to engage parents and extra time to complete paperwork without adding any time to our work day/year) but all of that and more is ignored. The only focus you have is on the way the money works and pretending like the retro payments are incomplete. The money has you desiring a NO vote. You guys may have to rethink your seemingly abandoned slogan “Our working conditions are our students learning conditions”. A new suggestion might be “Show me the Money $$$”.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-27860650209469584882014-05-05T20:26:42.842-04:002014-05-05T20:26:42.842-04:00Well of course they will. Do you think it's fr...Well of course they will. Do you think it's free to maintain 52 Broadway and run all those gala luncheons?Raving Lunaticnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-12343907997066739732014-05-05T20:03:41.632-04:002014-05-05T20:03:41.632-04:00And those dues will be going up too.And those dues will be going up too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-27853732914801390182014-05-05T20:01:42.879-04:002014-05-05T20:01:42.879-04:00Will you naysayers please sit down and shut up? We...Will you naysayers please sit down and shut up? We have deemed fit that you get your money 10 years after everyone else. That should be good enough for you all. Kindly stop questioning our work and get back to paying your dues, which we will not be waiting for.<br /><br />That is all.Raving Lunaticnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-81687850310829983262014-05-05T20:01:12.283-04:002014-05-05T20:01:12.283-04:002% a year and we don't get it for years. Care...2% a year and we don't get it for years. Career ladder is merit pay. Interminable meetings twice a week. What are the new protections for ATRs? Here comes the Unity army this post talked about. Used car salesmen are coming. Be ready everyone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-60664753874586295412014-05-05T19:59:04.908-04:002014-05-05T19:59:04.908-04:00If what the bloggers are saying about the ATR'...If what the bloggers are saying about the ATR's, then you better hope your school does not close. Most are veteran teachers who have invested so much and are now victims of being at a bad place and at a worst time. How many of you think a principal, with budget constraints, would want to hire a seasoned veteran teacher who knows their rights, when you can get several new teachers to cover multiple duties and are afraid of speaking up because they don't want to ruin their possibilities of tenure.<br /><br />VOTE a thousand times NO!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-20677174290414559592014-05-05T19:58:06.478-04:002014-05-05T19:58:06.478-04:00You mean the Exec Bd voted on something they didn&...You mean the Exec Bd voted on something they didn't read either. Shocking.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-35442680793786652142014-05-05T19:54:50.272-04:002014-05-05T19:54:50.272-04:00What about atr severance package?What about atr severance package?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-57763112623157544392014-05-05T19:54:29.638-04:002014-05-05T19:54:29.638-04:00UFT just tweeted Exec. Board voted it up.UFT just tweeted Exec. Board voted it up.NYC Educatorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12188066345722781723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-59945008290381841502014-05-05T19:52:18.338-04:002014-05-05T19:52:18.338-04:00So 18+% compounded. Full-Retro In the out years. N...So 18+% compounded. Full-Retro In the out years. No payments on health. Better evaluation. Career Ladder where you can earn 20,000. New protections for the ATRs (not less despite rumors). No merit pay despite rumors. Not one second more per day. Not one day more per year. Post Labor day to the end of June. Full Summers on the beach. The post does not like it. The news does not like it. Michelle Ree does not like.<br /><br />Read the details, not a good contract, a great contractAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-31900158999682040352014-05-05T19:24:11.026-04:002014-05-05T19:24:11.026-04:00It does do my heart good to see this contract prop...It does do my heart good to see this contract proposal being ripped to shreds on the UFT Facebook page. I am hoping that through social media the rank and file are getting the message that we should not jump at their first contract offer. #VoteNo.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com