tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post5645588461927806103..comments2024-03-07T15:25:26.971-05:00Comments on ICEUFT Blog: CDC SAYS NO MASKS NEEDED INDOORS IF VACCINATED; WHO ENFORCES IF PEOPLE INDOORS ARE VACCINATED?Jeff Kaufmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11728874415155394751noreply@blogger.comBlogger79125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-85431975330272342432021-05-23T12:47:09.967-04:002021-05-23T12:47:09.967-04:00Science Magazine. Letter from scientists validatin...Science Magazine. Letter from scientists validating looking into lab leak. If you got your news from msm, you were suckered into believing it was tin hat thinking. Told ya so. Congrats to the critical thinkers who knew it was a possibility all along.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-75482365439622302142021-05-23T07:41:08.305-04:002021-05-23T07:41:08.305-04:00Fauci now admitting he’s not confident virus devel...Fauci now admitting he’s not confident virus developed naturally. (Fauci interview with Katie Sanders on PolitiFact)Your god has now given you permission to stop the tin hat talk around the lab leak hypothesis. 11:26, Bronx ATR, anon2323 and others were not wrong. Mainstream media pushed another false narrative that the anti critical thinking crowd gobbled up. Trust the science? Hahahaha. Not when Fauci is still considered a scientist. He’s a bureaucrat with a medical degree. Stop trusting him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-46719695239446113782021-05-18T07:31:26.882-04:002021-05-18T07:31:26.882-04:00Except Anon2323 isn’t claiming to be able to ident...Except Anon2323 isn’t claiming to be able to identify winning lottery numbers. That would be ridiculous and those making the comparison are equally ridiculous. He’s identifying fake news and correcting it which is a much more important and righteous endeavor than trying to convince someone they know how to win money. Thank you Anon2323 for exposing and correcting biased hacks that include NYT.<br />Please ignore the trolls who want to insult you. Insults are all they got. You have facts and truth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-23376612107233072002021-05-17T15:27:58.003-04:002021-05-17T15:27:58.003-04:00How about giving James the Winning lotto numbers M...How about giving James the Winning lotto numbers Miss Cleo.waitingforsupporthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07390407586885648546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-91026720217943035982021-05-17T14:50:24.586-04:002021-05-17T14:50:24.586-04:00I post from the NY Post. I post from the NY Post. James Eternohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13578647381229034792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-11347937459299338762021-05-17T14:29:41.671-04:002021-05-17T14:29:41.671-04:00Very welcome and thanks for your support!
😂😂😂...Very welcome and thanks for your support! <br /><br />😂😂😂😂 James reputable?? Is the NYT reputable, absolutely not, the ny post is more reputable than your sources. Cmon man, Fauci is going to be exposed as the father of the pandemic, again you will see I am right in due time.Anon2323https://www.blogger.com/profile/12920550598769579282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-21433114808871099332021-05-17T14:20:39.044-04:002021-05-17T14:20:39.044-04:00Yup Chrlone Dioxide being looked at folks to cure ...Yup Chrlone Dioxide being looked at folks to cure covid.<br /><br />https://www.vice.com/en/article/4avw7b/peru-is-officially-investigating-if-bleach-can-cure-covidAnon2323https://www.blogger.com/profile/12920550598769579282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-11187967295057515412021-05-17T14:08:16.363-04:002021-05-17T14:08:16.363-04:00Thanks for trying Anon2323. I’ve noticed your accu...Thanks for trying Anon2323. I’ve noticed your accurate track record. Not all of us are msm brainwashed. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-42870959953793981542021-05-17T14:04:31.176-04:002021-05-17T14:04:31.176-04:00Reputable sources, please Anon 2323. That's al...Reputable sources, please Anon 2323. That's all I ask. James Eternohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13578647381229034792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-92036593059638178972021-05-17T12:37:57.874-04:002021-05-17T12:37:57.874-04:00Very disappointed in James, been censoring me and ...Very disappointed in James, been censoring me and I had articles. Not to mention I have been on the right side of allllll the politics even when MSM ALL BRAINWASHED.<br /><br />Still censors me knowing I may be on the right side but I am literally right!<br /><br />1. RUSSIA<br />2. KAVANAUGH/ME TOO LIE<br />3. CALLED NO MORE SNOW DAYS LAST YEAR WAY AHEAD OF ANYONE<br />4. CUOMO AND THE PANDEMIC WAS A PLANDEMIC.<br />4. ELECTIONS NEXT JAMES WILL SEEAnon2323https://www.blogger.com/profile/12920550598769579282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-24625535184791293602021-05-16T18:51:16.511-04:002021-05-16T18:51:16.511-04:00https://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/1021586?...https://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/1021586?section=newsfront&keywords=pompeo-coronavirus-China&year=2021&month=05&date=16&id=1021586&oref=t.coAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-41359429720178595422021-05-16T18:07:30.489-04:002021-05-16T18:07:30.489-04:00Thank you, 12:01. I had to look up what Gish Gallu...Thank you, 12:01. I had to look up what Gish Gallup meant. Thanks for the discussion, Michael. And thanks James for great venue to have them. The afore mentioned items were not used to strengthen Wade’s basic premise on the virus coming out of a lab, but just to show that science has its own biases depending on the subject, the media and society’s overall views. There’s nothing new about that - it’s just people, especially now, put too much faith in science. (We used to with the written word, but that changed.) While reading this over I kept thinking of monism and Nietzsche. I enjoy having these debates/conversations where we can express our views and explain them without reverting to insults, dismissive cliches or close mindless. We are teachers and intellectuals after all. Bronx ATRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08787717237141454628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-30764967358330351202021-05-16T12:01:44.519-04:002021-05-16T12:01:44.519-04:00Demands for evidence. Gish gallop. You just can’t ...Demands for evidence. Gish gallop. You just can’t admit you were wrong to label someone tinfoil hat for expressing an opinion reputable scientists are considering. Bronx ATR is expressing why so many of us no longer have faith in our state sanctioned scientists and institutions. He’s not Gish galloping. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-44637563454178583262021-05-16T11:51:42.463-04:002021-05-16T11:51:42.463-04:00There is no such thing as an honest fact checker i...There is no such thing as an honest fact checker in today’s media. I swear if the NYT had a bridge to sell, you’d let them advertise here if was “fact checked”. Maybe Anon 2323’s site is not reliable. Who knows. We can’t decide for ourselves because you censored him and I’m not taking your word for it. If you believe the NYT, you should make Anon2323 your fact checker. I’d believe him over them any day. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-9282940813808367832021-05-16T10:56:38.234-04:002021-05-16T10:56:38.234-04:00And the Gish Gallop. I rest. And the Gish Gallop. I rest. Michael Gattonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03439084701518904958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-12657128500572821612021-05-16T10:41:00.044-04:002021-05-16T10:41:00.044-04:00Anon 2323, I printed the link to the oped from the...Anon 2323, I printed the link to the oped from the NY Post, certainly no left-wing publication. Bronx ATR and I went back and forth on email in the last couple of days too. I respect someone's right to express a view. However, I am not going there on alt-right sites that are easily fact-checked by Media Bias as tin foil hat and pseudo-science quackery. I read on the site you sent me to about accusations of someone being part of the Trilateral Commission. I know what these people are about and it is out of bounds here. I won't allow it to be promoted, sorry.James Eternohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13578647381229034792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-56713464769917792172021-05-16T10:40:05.139-04:002021-05-16T10:40:05.139-04:00Michael, Science has become the god of 2021. Unfor...Michael, Science has become the god of 2021. Unfortunately, it’s false God. Putting faith in a false God will often lead to disaster. Science has done many things that are great, but science has also stayed mum and quiet about things that go against the grain of society at large - especially when coupled with the media. It has been used for centuries to denigrate entire groups of people according to intelligence. It has also been used to weed out those they seem and deem undesirable via eugenics. I’ve read entire reports where the science points to certain characteristics and sexual preferences as psychological diseases, but now it has decided they are not. For no other reason other than the media and society. So science starts using plural pronouns and comes up with 36 different genders. The media and Scientific community have also deemed the UFT phenomenon as a joke. They never looked into it seriously, although they made the appearance of doing so. Project blue book was headed by somebody who stated right out UFOs were a big joke. Now the military and private individuals have demanded politicians step in and demand the scientific community get involved. I’ve read the reports from high ranking personnel that have had incredulous encounters and now been marginalized and ridiculed for it. It seems the government has proof of everything that’s going on and is currently being released now and next month - as it is quickly becoming a national threat.Bronx ATRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08787717237141454628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-40030717881986081022021-05-16T08:44:28.719-04:002021-05-16T08:44:28.719-04:00Argument from incredulity. Let me know when you ha...Argument from incredulity. Let me know when you have some evidence.Michael Gattonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03439084701518904958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-90007318389322322432021-05-16T05:34:50.958-04:002021-05-16T05:34:50.958-04:00Bronx ATR, well said at 11:01.Bronx ATR, well said at 11:01.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-24735190033582977382021-05-16T05:23:52.025-04:002021-05-16T05:23:52.025-04:00I don’t know much about viruses, labs, peer review...I don’t know much about viruses, labs, peer reviewed scientific research etc. what I know is that mainstream media went full throttle trying to shame anyone who questioned the official narrative. No one on this blog can say for sure what happened. My point is that it’s POSSIBLE it escaped from the lab and the fact that msm rallied against the idea is reason enough to closely examine the idea. It’s what true journalists are supposed to do. Dig for the truth. Instead, we have msm anchors and writers pretending they’re journalists who take a side and label dissenters ignorant, crazy, xenophobic or racist. Msm is doing the same thing with Israel. They’ve picked a side and will slant their stories accordingly and anyone who supports Israel must want Palestinian kids dead. When msm tells you there’s no “there there” my bet is it’s there in spades. When msm accuses someone, it means they’re probably innocent. When msm defends someone, they’re probably guilty. The “science” Biden relied on to end some mask wearing was available for about a month before he made his statement ending some mask wearing. He chose the timing of his announcement to suit his political needs otherwise the announcement would have been made sooner. Science is political in America. Very dangerous to all of us. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-10006648849067585532021-05-15T23:26:57.486-04:002021-05-15T23:26:57.486-04:00This is actually an excellent summary from the New...This is actually an excellent summary from the New York Post , which should not to be dismissed out of hand, as it comes from a well-known scientist and writer for the New York Times. <br />https://nypost.com/2021/05/09/theory-that-covid-escaped-from-a-lab-may-not-be-far-fetched/?Bronx ATRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08787717237141454628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-12697434630066403562021-05-15T23:01:56.072-04:002021-05-15T23:01:56.072-04:00The problem Michael is that the science is not fol...The problem Michael is that the science is not following what should be protocol, in investigating something that appears to be a common sense conclusion. Occam‘s razor - the obvious answer is usually the correct one, is a common tenet of science for years. It’s much more far-fetched to imagine that this virus, which originated in a city with a lab which creates biological weapons, didn’t come out of that lab. If we had COVID-19 coming out of Plum Island, a place where we keep all types of dreadful disease encapsulated in a Pandora’s box of an island, there would be a thorough investigation. Trump burned so many bridges, including with the W.H.O. , that the media and many of the worlds top leaders felt no pressure at all to confirm what he surmised. It’s ironic that Fauci is a big proponent of the type of research that in part goes on in the Wuhan lab. Obama banned him from doing so , but Trump allowed it. (As Fauci and Trump’s relationship floundered, Fauci became a media darling and remains so. He understands the validity of this scenario up to the point that he is afraid of becoming implicated in some of the science that’s involved.)<br />This whole case is an example of what’s wrong with society at large right now. The breakdown of civility and critical thinking because of tribalism. The need to classify people according to some predetermined bias is at the heart of almost everything that’s wrong right now. It can be seen in just about every facet of our lives. <br />Peace to all.<br />Bronx ATRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08787717237141454628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-8160514483794236382021-05-15T17:45:15.758-04:002021-05-15T17:45:15.758-04:00OK, I'll bite this time. I know how this usual...OK, I'll bite this time. I know how this usually turns out but who knows, surprise me. Read the science. Here's one of many sources.<br /><br />https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0820-9?utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=commission_junction&utm_campaign=3_nsn6445_deeplink_PID100052172&utm_content=deeplink<br /><br />And here's a summary of that study in more non-specialist language:<br /><br />https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-not-human-made-in-lab.html<br /><br />I accept provisionally the scientific evidence that shows the virus more likely evolved by natural selection and is VERY unlikely engineered. Notice the acknowledgment that it is possible that evidence may emerge that changes that conclusion, but right now there is no evidence the virus was engineered, but actual evidence that it arose naturally "in the wild." <br /><br />I am not close minded and I have no love for the Chinese government and no reason to "protect" them from evidence that they had anything to do with it if such evidence existed. But that's how science ideally works - follow the evidence. If new evidence appears, adjust accordingly. There are no absolute truths in science, and that is a feature, not a bug. But to use a lack of absolute certainty (everything is uncertain if you want to go down the skepticism rabbit hole) as an excuse to believe what you want to believe based on the slimmest of possibilities (and ultimately driven by a political agendas) is not following science. <br /><br />And please, no counterarguments from journalists or scientists in unrelated fields. Primary sources only. Find a study in a reputable science journal that points to a laboratory origin of COVID 19.<br />Michael Gattonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03439084701518904958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-19558645384891449122021-05-15T17:10:53.073-04:002021-05-15T17:10:53.073-04:00When you insult in place of making a counter argum...When you insult in place of making a counter argument, you’ve lost the argument and given the other side more credibility than they had in the first place. Michael responded to the idea of COVID being an engineered virus with an insult. No counter argument to be found in his response. Reputable scientists have discussed properties of the virus that indicate it could have been made in a lab. Michael chose to accuse anyone who considers this idea of being crazy. It’s what people who can’t win an argument do. They insult in an effort to get the audience to reject the person with the idea without considering the idea itself. It’s lazy persuasion. James is considering banning opt out talk. Might I suggest the more useless and arguably harmful speech to consider banning is speech like Michael’s. You dumb down the conversation when insult replaces argument. I’m not in favor of banning speech. Few exceptions. Just tossing out something for the softer on free speech crowd to consider. What’s the difference between these 3 responses in terms of proper conversation or debate? “Why do you pay dues?” “Why don’t you pay dues?” “Why don’t you take your tin foil hat off?” Which of those questions is the most useless in an honest, respectful conversation? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-72934361734694817312021-05-15T16:39:42.629-04:002021-05-15T16:39:42.629-04:00I have been vaccinated but I plan to wear a mask w...I have been vaccinated but I plan to wear a mask while teaching and in the halls until I feel safe— large school, barely opening windows, small room, lots of students and I won’t know which students are vaccinated.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com