tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post629386583104379454..comments2024-03-07T15:25:26.971-05:00Comments on ICEUFT Blog: CITY BUDGET BEING BALANCED ON THE BACKS OF UFT'S ATRSJeff Kaufmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11728874415155394751noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-1502666385446505382011-07-27T19:09:50.709-04:002011-07-27T19:09:50.709-04:00ICE told you so. ATRs won't have to be hired ...ICE told you so. ATRs won't have to be hired through this agreement.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-56854830746872630442011-07-25T21:49:29.089-04:002011-07-25T21:49:29.089-04:00Has anyone seen the video to the principals on how...Has anyone seen the video to the principals on how ATRS will be deployed? Worse than anyone expected.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-41386938550614173042011-07-03T22:45:58.428-04:002011-07-03T22:45:58.428-04:00Great points raised. Another fact that needs to be...Great points raised. Another fact that needs to be highlighted is the fact that ATRS are licensed certified Teachers they should not be allowed to work as day to day substitutes. This is unfair because as the agreement states they are being placed in long term leave assignments so, if the person returns to work they are once again displaced and made to serve as a day to day sub. Another concern lies in the fact that they can be redeployed to different schools that means the teachers will be forced to teach out of license and that also means that you can have common branch teachers with no high school or middle school experience teaching on those levels. What happens to their evaluations at the end of the year? This is unfair and a travesty of justice. What are we paying for the DOE to have rights and teachers to be treated like we are less than human beings. People in the know act(union representatives) as though our levels of experience and professional education doesn't count. Like the other blogger stated this is not done in any other profession except for education. The reason why the day to day substitutes aren't saying anything is because they are not being made aware of what their rights are. Also, they want to talk about long term assignments and vacancies we still have schools with vacancies that ATRS can fill, these vacancies are not being posted on the open market. But, I gaurantee that come September there will be hiring done from the outside and we will have new hires with no experience even though they claim there is a hiring freeze. So, can someone please explain to me what exactly are we paying union dues for?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-59266324676658974952011-07-03T19:09:14.200-04:002011-07-03T19:09:14.200-04:00Dear annonymous -- That's right, I guess we sh...Dear annonymous -- That's right, I guess we should have been <br />"angry" when this started. Sorry for the delayed reaction. But, the new agreement SOLIDIFIES IN WRITING the already IMPROPER PRACTICE of using ATRS as day-to-day subs. In addition what's new if you have actually read it, is that it states that "ONLY ATRs" can work in long term assignments, whereas previously there was no such stipulation. This will now be enforced and has a chilling effect on whether schools will hire subs for long term assignments. <br />A sub was told already they can't complete their maternity leave assignment in even though previously they were asked to return. It was because of this new agreement that they will not be permitted to work there in September even though no ATR is yet assigned to the position. <br />No one cares that sub put in many weeks of work. We already know ATRs have priority, but they should not be working as subs in day-to-day asignments in our place. This dispalces one member with another. <br /> If you were you were a day to day sub, you may have a different answer when your ability to be assigned gets cut down to practically nothing. I went from working 160 days per year to 131days to 98 days. This year I only worked 27 days. I agree with Jeff, it's amazing how they said there is no layoff when this is actually a type of layoff for subs and that it is wrong that the UFT said NOT ONE WORD by the UFT in support of us when we are dues paying members. They muzzled us and the media from reporting this. An equally disturbing thing is that subs don't seem to be putting up a fight even though they got thrown under a bus on Tuesday. Let us observe what happens this year. How many will speak up when they can find no work.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-68272915748327293012011-07-03T08:23:36.212-04:002011-07-03T08:23:36.212-04:00ATRs in my school work as subs. They cover classes...ATRs in my school work as subs. They cover classes. This agreement doesn't change that. Why are all the day to day people so angry?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-42881237463295368292011-07-02T22:36:57.486-04:002011-07-02T22:36:57.486-04:00Jeff and I are the only ones mentioning what happe...Jeff and I are the only ones mentioning what happened to the subs. ATRs are doing our job. Many do not like being subs, and subs need to work. There are thousands of subs who ae being disenfranchised here at the same time when ATRs are not getting a classroom.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-91020767279708761502011-06-29T14:20:48.462-04:002011-06-29T14:20:48.462-04:00I just beacme an ATR execessed yesterday at 2;20 a...I just beacme an ATR execessed yesterday at 2;20 after I filed agrievance for excessive preparations. The principal stated he need to make room for an ESL teacher and that he is under investigation actually. He has teachers who are junior to me working out of license. I suspect its retaliatory for so many years of being vocal on behalf of the ELL poulation in our school.Gladys Sotomayorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05688992742527533886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-55799265390368342782011-06-29T06:47:16.408-04:002011-06-29T06:47:16.408-04:00"At least they have a job", a common ref..."At least they have a job", a common refrain from so many in the leadership of Unity. Do they even know why teachers teach? Do they teach? We chose to teach to guide young minds to help create a literate, just and equitable society. How many of them ran out of the classroom to jobs with the union? Working as an ATR is collecting blood money, not teaching. We must remember ATRs are in this position because their schools were closed or downsized, it is not a commentary on their teaching ability.<br /><br />I've yet to see how this new system of dealing with ATRs saves money. Am I missing something?<br /><br />And saving 4000 jobs? Nonsense. They were never going to be laid off and the leadership knew it. That was a political strategy, not a financial move of the Mayor's.lpriscohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04509138502127479355noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-30551237514676877042011-06-29T05:48:07.566-04:002011-06-29T05:48:07.566-04:00Good point Marjorie. I was just dealing with the U...Good point Marjorie. I was just dealing with the UFT part of this agreement. Obviously, there are wider union issues involved too.<br /><br />JamesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-3064924455506521712011-06-29T03:36:15.530-04:002011-06-29T03:36:15.530-04:00Actually, all this smacks of a way of getting rid ...Actually, all this smacks of a way of getting rid of a whole lot of unplaced ATR's without the city's having to go through the inconvenience of paying buy-off money, as was suggested might happen long ago. ATR's who are forced to suffer the indignity of a nomad existence might very well simply call it quits rather than have to drift around district from school to school that way.<br /><br />Naturally, the real sufferers in all this will turn out to be the students. Fancy the chaos that is likely to develop for who knows how long at the beginning of next year, when the principals decide that they want to "audition" two or three new ATR's for each vacancy, then pass on one after another until they find someone to their liking. The process could, technicall, stretch on forever.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-7657859401635944922011-06-29T03:34:00.038-04:002011-06-29T03:34:00.038-04:00Yes, the ATR agreement is very problematic and doe...Yes, the ATR agreement is very problematic and does nothing to deal with the systemic issue caused by Weingarten/Unity selling out seniority transfers in 05.<br /><br />Notable at the D.A., was that no speaker was allowed on the floor who would raise the more than 1,000 layoffs of DC 37 union brothers and sisters, overwhelmingly black and Latino, who our union seems to have thrown under the bus. A number of those laid off are DOE employees such as school aides.<br />--Marjorie StambergMarjorie Stambergnoreply@blogger.com