tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post6304421930361201084..comments2024-03-07T15:25:26.971-05:00Comments on ICEUFT Blog: REMEMBER THOSE HEALTH COST SAVINGS FROM THE CONTRACTJeff Kaufmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11728874415155394751noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-89109899735702075572015-08-06T12:38:01.540-04:002015-08-06T12:38:01.540-04:00This contract is like a big stinking onion. The mo...This contract is like a big stinking onion. The more layers that are revealed the more it stinks; and any way you cut it, it's going to bring tears to your eyes. The Post should be singing DeBlasio's praises and the teachers cursing him - but it's the other way around. I don't blame DeBlasio though- Mulgrew handed him a deal that he would be nuts not to take it. Bronx ATRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08787717237141454628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-37962582134835518902015-08-06T12:35:07.374-04:002015-08-06T12:35:07.374-04:00What is the size of their populations? The city ca...What is the size of their populations? The city can easily get better rates because we have so many more workers. It spreads the risk. It is that simple. Article 3G of the contract covers health benefits so yes we have a say. We agreed to our share of these savings as part of our contract to pay for part of our paltry raise.James Eternohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13578647381229034792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-54735463565809433362015-08-06T10:52:08.354-04:002015-08-06T10:52:08.354-04:00Just wanted to remind; no member ever had any say ...Just wanted to remind; no member ever had any say in that. The Union heads all voted to give the city the authority on and just after May 1st, 2013. No vote whatever would have changed that. <br /><br />Also, to remind, most suburban districts pay toward their healthcare and have for years. The contracts are publicly available and the costs are more than we will ever ever pay (and the coverage is not nearly as good). <br /><br />On the healthcare front, things could be much much worse. NYCDOEnutshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10692665524124012171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-15582656768835117232015-08-06T10:18:40.170-04:002015-08-06T10:18:40.170-04:00Don't believe for a second that we won't b...Don't believe for a second that we won't be contributing to our healthcare. This is the trend and it is already being established with other unions in the U.S. The ed reformers want to see it and both Herman Munster and Meathead Mike take their cue from that crowd. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-25609212857204016042015-08-06T09:14:59.320-04:002015-08-06T09:14:59.320-04:00I agree Jonathan. I agree Jonathan. James Eternohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13578647381229034792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-53457039073409728302015-08-06T09:05:22.163-04:002015-08-06T09:05:22.163-04:00The danger was always allowing health care to beco...The danger was always allowing health care to become part of the contract and simultaneously giving an arbitrator the first and final say over whether "savings" were being met, and if he decided they were not, how to "achieve" (that is, how to make us pay) for those savings.<br /><br />The early targets were easy. But for the bigger numbers at the end of the contract we never got anything more than vague hand-waving about where that money would come from. <br /><br />There is real danger that Marty Scheinman will impose a seemingly minor - but possibly precedent-setting - cut on us in the last year of this contract. <br /><br />Getting this section out of the next contract should be a high priority.<br /><br />Jonathan HalabiJonathanhttp://jd2718.orgnoreply@blogger.com