tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post8986935434366084505..comments2024-03-07T15:25:26.971-05:00Comments on ICEUFT Blog: WEST VIRGINIA TEACHERS PLANNING "ILLEGAL" STRIKE THURSDAY AND FRIDAY FOR HIGHER PAY AND IMPROVED HEALTHCAREJeff Kaufmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11728874415155394751noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-43306140061198820872018-03-19T15:03:12.350-04:002018-03-19T15:03:12.350-04:00The plight of our teachers in West Virginia is so ...The plight of our teachers in West Virginia is so ludicrous it is depressing. Legal or not, the actions of West Virginia teachers are the only way we are ever going to truly change education and the working condition of teachers.<br /><br />For those who complain about their strike, think of it this way. How much of your salary are you expected to pay to cover your basic insurance costs such as health and dental? Is it 2%? 10% For teachers in non-union negotiated contracts, the costs are outrageous. Our Tired Teachershttps://thetiredteacher2017.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-26767014676413629282018-02-22T12:55:03.962-05:002018-02-22T12:55:03.962-05:00Imagine if we had real unions at the state and nat...Imagine if we had real unions at the state and national level. Instead of always giving back and giving in we just might have a legislative agenda that permits a right to strike. The job action is one of the few weapons we have . We gave that up a long time ago. No one even talks about getting it back. Is it any wonder why we are facing an adverse decision in Janus ?? Members should keep paying dues, Why ?? Oh I forgot it would be so much worse without NYSUT. Maybe I would have to go clean my bosses house on the weekend. Please...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-25412431048931457622018-02-22T10:31:20.866-05:002018-02-22T10:31:20.866-05:00I don't give a shit who is charge as long at i...I don't give a shit who is charge as long at it is not Unity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-55509081754235710222018-02-22T09:44:42.182-05:002018-02-22T09:44:42.182-05:00Hs teachers want to vote for ice. More has betray...Hs teachers want to vote for ice. More has betrayed us. We need ice leadership again. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-8331622446931521272018-02-22T08:35:20.164-05:002018-02-22T08:35:20.164-05:00The WV citizens should be outraged and legal actio...The WV citizens should be outraged and legal action with fines and/or dismissal against any teacher participating in this illegal strike. Breach of contract. The State of WV is already strapped for road money after a terrible winter with massive flood damage AND the taxpayers are being ruined by their own health care increases.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-15927077161627449772018-02-22T06:19:06.099-05:002018-02-22T06:19:06.099-05:00Still waiting on that MORE evaluation petition. An...Still waiting on that MORE evaluation petition. Anybody out there???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-73886303045451059442018-02-21T20:08:57.650-05:002018-02-21T20:08:57.650-05:00Where are you, MORE, on gun control. It’s getting...Where are you, MORE, on gun control. It’s getting hard to take you seriously right now. You’ve got plenty of time for stunt proposals 2 years after a movement has fizzled. Bur, what about striking while the iron is hot?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-1526570223765769122018-02-21T18:50:55.272-05:002018-02-21T18:50:55.272-05:00I agree. Ice represented teachers better than mor...I agree. Ice represented teachers better than more. Kind of tired of the social justice focus. Whst about teachers. I voted Ice before more. I probably won't vote in the next election. I wish ice was still around.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-73199441362478076042018-02-21T13:27:01.514-05:002018-02-21T13:27:01.514-05:00Tenure has already been weakened. Health care cost...Tenure has already been weakened. Health care costs keep rising and we are sitting ducks in many schools at the hands of abusive administrators. <br /><br />We are totally not prepared for a strike. That buildup would take months, maybe years. However, we have to start somewhere and until we have at least a credible threat of a job action, we will watch our working conditions continue to deteriorate as they have consistently in the 32 years I have been in the system, especially since 2005.<br /><br />To set the record straight, it was me, not MORE, that introduced two motions at DA on eval. Jan 2017 was for UFT to push for two observations for teachers. Unity said no. Jan 2018 was to scrap entire evaluation system. It was influenced by NYSUT RA resolution that passed unanimously there. Unity voted that down too. I did both independently at DA without MORE approval. I think they would support both but MORE had other priorities. MORE did ask for UFT to push for or two observations for most teachers at Exec Bd.<br /><br />ICE still exists as this blog shows. We have supported MORE since MORE started but that does not have to be forever if people are so inclined.James Eternohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13578647381229034792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-64887777128422822732018-02-21T13:00:58.059-05:002018-02-21T13:00:58.059-05:00We need a teacher justice caucus not a social just...We need a teacher justice caucus not a social justice caucus. Bring back ICE! We need true teacher leaders not a semi professional group of protesters. I'm ready to strike and so are all of my friends in the pool. More is a disappointment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-37166779120340996962018-02-21T12:46:20.581-05:002018-02-21T12:46:20.581-05:00I agree with Anon 11:09 that MORE does not seem to...I agree with Anon 11:09 that MORE does not seem to understand that this is a union of educators and in these trying times we need to focus on matters that concern and unite our profession, not divisive issues that can weaken our union. That said, in terms of striking how many educatirs do you think would actually go weeks or months without pay? Probably less than 10%. Those strikes in the ‘60’s occurred when most Americans lived in one bread winner households and the system was set up that one person could support a family of four. Not anymore. Many educators live paycheck to paycheck. Many have mortgages, kids in college, auto loans and other family obligations. I’ve been in this union for over 25 years and as a former CL I actually polled my members about a strike years ago and besides myself only one other person was willing to strike if necessary(her husband was a broker on Wall Street) and I had a strong chapter. Times are different and the politicians know it. Any talk about a strike nowadays is pure rubbish, unless they try to take away tenure or cut salaries by 20% or make us pay $8000 medical insurance premiums. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-65737482911523677072018-02-21T12:30:50.927-05:002018-02-21T12:30:50.927-05:00Slightly off of the topic, but everyone shou...Slightly off of the topic, but everyone should read Eliza Shapiro's article. It <br />is quite interesting and quite frightening. What is the UFT doing to make sure that such an anti-teacher chancellor is appointed in the future?<br /><br />https://www.politico.com/states/new-york/city-hall/story/2018/02/20/this-is-how-carmen-farina-works-outgoing-chancellor-lead-from-inside-schools-261304Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-71364237920170865952018-02-21T11:05:15.316-05:002018-02-21T11:05:15.316-05:00More has no ability to organize the membership or ...More has no ability to organize the membership or the balls to get anything done. They care "more" about blm than uft members. Jia is a waste. More can't be trusted. A new opposition caucus is needed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-46397362572610512342018-02-21T10:36:49.556-05:002018-02-21T10:36:49.556-05:00MORE does care about evaluations. They have been p...MORE does care about evaluations. They have been pushing the DA with resolutions to get changes to it. I do believe they will put a petition out that would get a shit ton of signatures. This petition is needed now more than ever. We have a chance to get this done at either the sate level for gutting AAPR and or we can get 2 evaluations here in NYC in the next contract. We can't keep our heads in the sand on this. Too many NYC teachers are chatting about paid maternity leave. That is all fine and dandy, be a change to our evaluation system is a hundred times more crucial as it effects every single teacher in our schools.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-90695394697443164292018-02-21T10:28:37.519-05:002018-02-21T10:28:37.519-05:00MORE couldn't care less about evaluations. It ...MORE couldn't care less about evaluations. It is not a social justice issue. It mainly affects teachers. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-19295342918113846692018-02-21T10:24:26.164-05:002018-02-21T10:24:26.164-05:00As a long time NYC teacher, I have no problem at a...As a long time NYC teacher, I have no problem at all going on strike here. I am willing to get docked 2 days pay for each day that I strike. I know it is illegal but it would be a form of civil protest. However, if the UFT organized a strike, (Which they will never do), the head honchoes could be thrown in Jail. Mulgrew has too much caviar and champagne at 52 Broadway to enjoy and as such, he is not going to organize a strike. Now, could there be a strike "organized" by individual teachers or a caucus within the UFT? I say yes it is possible but it is a long shot. Newbie teachers would not be willing to loose 2 days par for each day they strike. Plenty of veteran teachers would not be willing to strike for fear of admin retaliation once the strike is over. Any strike or job action for even a day or 2 would throw NYC schools into chaos. But the fact is that chaos might be what is needed to get the change we need. Oh yeah, is MORE still planning on putting out a petition to change our eval system?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-4632632539058009222018-02-21T10:05:20.558-05:002018-02-21T10:05:20.558-05:00On salary you are mostly correct 1:20. We do not h...On salary you are mostly correct 1:20. We do not have our raises negotiated statewide.<br /><br />However, on other issues like testing and teacher evaluations we would have huge support. Until we are ready to build to something real and at least be able to credibly threaten action, we are easy victims of school reformers. <br /><br />On salary, the high cost of living in NYC has to be taken into account. Comparisons with Yonkers and other municipal employees here in NYC can also be used in making our case for decent raises as can the city surpluses.James Eternohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13578647381229034792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-87345666238597349262018-02-21T01:20:07.014-05:002018-02-21T01:20:07.014-05:00Not with the salaries people in the UFT are making...Not with the salaries people in the UFT are making. Apples and oranges.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com