tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post112846050523534948..comments2024-03-07T15:25:26.971-05:00Comments on ICEUFT Blog: VOTE NOJeff Kaufmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11728874415155394751noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-1132881512226419862005-11-24T20:18:00.000-05:002005-11-24T20:18:00.000-05:00Hello Blogger,After reading your blog "VOTE NO", I...Hello Blogger,<BR/><BR/>After reading your blog "VOTE NO", I believe you will find the wages information on my site about <A HREF="http://www.top-career-wages.com" REL="nofollow"> Jobs With Best Wages</A> to be very helpful. <BR/><BR/>To give you an idea of our wide range, some of the recent searches that found our site included ... <BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.top-career-wages.com/documents/education_training_remuneration.php" REL="nofollow">Self-enrichment Education Teachers Wages</A><BR/><A HREF="http://www.top-career-wages.com/documents/education_training_remuneration.php" REL="nofollow">Postsecondary Social Sciences Teachers Wages</A><BR/><A HREF="http://www.top-career-wages.com/documents/education_training_remuneration.php" REL="nofollow">Postsecondary Social Work Teachers Wages</A><BR/><A HREF="http://www.top-career-wages.com/documents/education_training_remuneration.php" REL="nofollow">Teachers & Instructors Wages</A><BR/><A HREF="http://www.top-career-wages.com/documents/education_training_remuneration.php" REL="nofollow">Middle School Vocational Education Teachers Wages</A><BR/><A HREF="http://www.top-career-wages.com/documents/education_training_remuneration.php" REL="nofollow">Postsecondary Vocational Education Teachers Wages</A><BR/><A HREF="http://www.top-career-wages.com/documents/education_training_remuneration.php" REL="nofollow">Secondary School Vocational Education Teachers Wages</A><BR/><A HREF="http://www.top-career-wages.com/documents/education_training_remuneration.php" REL="nofollow">Postsecondary Sociology Teachers Wages</A>.<BR/><BR/>We have hundreds of "must read" articles on wages and careers and many other topics in our <A HREF="http://www.top-career-wages.com" REL="nofollow">Top Career Wages</A> site.<BR/><BR/>Kind Regards<BR/>EmilyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-1132845936951926562005-11-24T10:25:00.000-05:002005-11-24T10:25:00.000-05:00Hey Blogger,Your blog "VOTE NO", leads me to belie...Hey Blogger,<BR/><BR/>Your blog "VOTE NO", leads me to believe you will find my information on our<A HREF="http://www.top-career-wages.com" REL="nofollow"> Best Career Wages</A> site to be very beneficial. <BR/><BR/>Some of the not so common searches that found our extensive wages site included ... <BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.top-career-wages.com/documents/education_training_remuneration.php" REL="nofollow">Adult Literacy Teachers Wages</A><BR/><A HREF="http://www.top-career-wages.com/documents/education_training_remuneration.php" REL="nofollow">Remedial Education Teachers Wages</A><BR/><A HREF="http://www.top-career-wages.com/documents/education_training_remuneration.php" REL="nofollow">GED Instructors Wages</A><BR/><A HREF="http://www.top-career-wages.com/documents/education_training_remuneration.php" REL="nofollow">Postsecondary Agricultural Sciences Teachers Wages</A><BR/><A HREF="http://www.top-career-wages.com/documents/education_training_remuneration.php" REL="nofollow">Postsecondary Anthropology Teachers Wages</A><BR/><A HREF="http://www.top-career-wages.com/documents/education_training_remuneration.php" REL="nofollow">Postsecondary Archeology Teachers Wages</A><BR/><A HREF="http://www.top-career-wages.com/documents/education_training_remuneration.php" REL="nofollow">Postsecondary Architecture Teachers Wages</A><BR/><A HREF="http://www.top-career-wages.com/documents/education_training_remuneration.php" REL="nofollow">Archivists Wages</A><BR/><A HREF="http://www.top-career-wages.com/documents/education_training_remuneration.php" REL="nofollow">Postsecondary Cultural Studies Teachers Wages</A><BR/><A HREF="http://www.top-career-wages.com/documents/education_training_remuneration.php" REL="nofollow">Postsecondary Area , Ethnic Studies Teachers Wages</A><BR/><A HREF="http://www.top-career-wages.com/documents/education_training_remuneration.php" REL="nofollow">Postsecondary Music Teachers Wages</A>.<BR/><BR/>We have many hundreds of "essential to read" articles on wages and career topics in addition to many other popular subjects in our <A HREF="http://www.top-career-wages.com" REL="nofollow">Average Career Wages</A> site.<BR/><BR/>Best Wishes<BR/>EmilyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-1129347752446487202005-10-14T23:42:00.000-04:002005-10-14T23:42:00.000-04:00At this point it cant get any worse. We've given ...At this point it cant get any worse. We've given up almost everything. Things we have fought so hard to earn. Even if we have nothing to gain it is worth voting down this contract. We are all disgusted as it isl. They want to run the schools like a corporation. They should know better than to bring down morale in the workplace. In corportations where morale is down productivity lags...........Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-1129144499443123732005-10-12T15:14:00.000-04:002005-10-12T15:14:00.000-04:00I am not a NYC teacher, having left that district ...I am not a NYC teacher, having left that district in 1981 to teach in another state, and I sure don't know all the ins and outs of your tentative agreement, but I do have a question.<BR/><BR/>If you reject this agreement, what are you going to do differently to get a better contract? That seems to me the big question. <BR/><BR/>What leverage do you have to get a better deal? Will you be able to get more than a handful of non-educators to support you? Will you be able to apply any pressure on the mayor and the chancellor? These are the real questions that need and I don't see any of you asking them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-1128780437834367382005-10-08T10:07:00.000-04:002005-10-08T10:07:00.000-04:00Anonymous said... Well, you are all out of your mi...Anonymous said... <BR/>Well, you are all out of your minds. <BR/>THIS IS THE BEST WE WILL GET from someone who has little to work with. <BR/>I have been in the system for almost 20 years. I remember when I first started and only had one prep a week or maybe two. I HAD SO MUCH TIME TO TEACH!!!! Now it is so little. <BR/>I think that if this contratct is ratified, it will continue to segregate the HIGH SCHOOL/MIDDLE SCHOOL members from the ELEMENTARY MEMBERS!!!! <BR/>UNION SCHMUNION!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-1128780248793794212005-10-08T10:04:00.000-04:002005-10-08T10:04:00.000-04:00Well, you are all out of your minds. THIS IS THE ...Well, you are all out of your minds. <BR/>THIS IS THE BEST WE WILL GET from someone who has little to work with. <BR/>I have been in the system for almost 20 years. I remember when I first started and only had one prep a week or maybe two. I HAD SO MUCH TIME TO TEACH!!!! Now it is so little. <BR/>I think that if this contratct is ratified, it will continue to segregate the HIGH SCHOOL/MIDDLE SCHOOL members from the ELEMENTARY MEMBERS!!!! <BR/>UNION SCHMUNION!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-1128778929039467512005-10-08T09:42:00.000-04:002005-10-08T09:42:00.000-04:00I am a 7th grader and my mom is a teacher. I think...I am a 7th grader and my mom is a teacher. I think you should vote no for the contract because it's definitely not fair. At a business job, when you are getting a raise, you don't have to put any more time in, like staying late or giving up a break. If Bloomberg is giving the teachers a contract right before the mayoral election, he is just trying to make us vote for him. Does he think we're stupid????? No, we are not stupid so all UFT members should vote NO for the contract!!!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-1128748351960095862005-10-08T01:12:00.000-04:002005-10-08T01:12:00.000-04:00We are asked to give up what we fought to earn ove...We are asked to give up what we fought to earn over many years. How about improving working conditions. Old buildings,overcrowded schools and classes, no teacher lounge, teachers bathrooms are despicable. Professionalism? where? Keep on taking classes that cost more than the yearly increase. Pay is not compatible to the cost of living. What are we talking about? Give give give. People are making 6 digit figures without any formal education and teachers who are molding the minds of the future are unimportant and make the bare minimum. Extend the day? How about that? Teachers need a second income. Then they have work from home lesson plans, marking papers etc. This is a bogus contract we don't need it. Vote NOOOOO!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-1128740912019334502005-10-07T23:08:00.000-04:002005-10-07T23:08:00.000-04:00YEAH THAT SHOWS HOW MUCH THEY HATE US. LOOKING TO ...YEAH THAT SHOWS HOW MUCH THEY HATE US. LOOKING TO SQUEEZE A HALF MINUTE OUT OF US! WHAT A SHAME!! VOTE NO NO NO NO NO!!!<BR/>ABUSRD!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-1128739343960128472005-10-07T22:42:00.000-04:002005-10-07T22:42:00.000-04:0037.5 minutes a day is an insult. That half minute ...37.5 minutes a day is an insult. That half minute alone is and embarassment. Shame on them!!!!!!! WHo ever heard of a half minute!!!!!!!!!!!!! The should be embarassed!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-1128738086615796772005-10-07T22:21:00.000-04:002005-10-07T22:21:00.000-04:00I DONT KNOW ANYONE THAT IS GOING TO VOTE FOR THIS ...I DONT KNOW ANYONE THAT IS GOING TO VOTE FOR THIS CONTRACT. IT WAS VOTED DOWN IN MY SCHOOL. IF IT PASSES WE SHOULD REQUEST TO SEE THE BALLOTS!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-1128732155004984112005-10-07T20:42:00.000-04:002005-10-07T20:42:00.000-04:00I know a teacher who is 3 years from retirement. ...I know a teacher who is 3 years from retirement. She works in an extended time school (ex SURR school)in Manhattan. Teachers in her school are already getting paid more for coming in a week early in the summer, already working extended time, and always worked on Bklyn Queens day.What do they have to give up for a raise????? NOTHING!!!!!! Why should we have to give back anything? Does the MTA give us more service when they raise the fares on subways, buses,bridges and tunnels? When the Federal govt raises postage rates, do we get better mail service?? NO. OF COURSE NOT. WHY SHOULD WE GIVE BACK??? WE DESERVE TO BE TREATED FAIRLY. VOTE NO NOW!!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-1128715277501935722005-10-07T16:01:00.000-04:002005-10-07T16:01:00.000-04:00This contract is not only about this contract. I'...This contract is not only about this contract. I'm thinking about what we are going to be told to give up in the next contract in order to get a "raise" that doesn't even match the cost of living increase? <BR/>And this is the most divisive situation I've seen as a 17-year UFT member. Nothing hurts a union more than a boss exploiting the differences of people. Except perhaps a union president doing the same thing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-1128710582818874732005-10-07T14:43:00.000-04:002005-10-07T14:43:00.000-04:00This proposed contract must be voted down! The con...This proposed contract must be voted down! The contract we are working under is infinitely better than the one Unity is trying to sell us. As others have pointed out, look at what Randi has agreed to give back. Randi has sold us out. She agreed to a deal with the Mayor and Chancellor before bringing the matter to the rank and file. When she stated at the press conference that the proposed contract was a win for teachers, she displayed an arrogance that should serve notice whose interests she really represents... the interests of the union bureaucracy! This capitulation to management which Unity describes as a "fair contract" must be voted down. Even more importantly, Randi and her Unity cronies must be ousted! It's time to take back our union from the bureaucrats. Tell them you're tired of their dues increases. Your salary has not kept up with the dues increases Unity is withholding from your paycheck!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-1128687975302519752005-10-07T08:26:00.000-04:002005-10-07T08:26:00.000-04:00Every ten minutes added to the teaching day equate...Every ten minutes added to the teaching day equates to an added 45 minutes on the road for some of us. The two extra days in June are taken out of the only week I get of "summer Vacation" as I have to work all summer to supplement my measly salary. I am very disgusted, how much more PD could I possibly get? How many more tired hours do I have to spend sintting at tiny desks in tiny wood chairs listening to the same "PD" presenters droning on about stuff we do in the classroom every single day.Nan McNally Wagnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07318508319898481499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-1128647955205198562005-10-06T21:19:00.000-04:002005-10-06T21:19:00.000-04:00I am now sorry for typo I forgot how to spell sinc...I am now <BR/>sorry for typo <BR/>I forgot how to spell since I can't teach spelling.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-1128646585246895452005-10-06T20:56:00.000-04:002005-10-06T20:56:00.000-04:00I used to love to teach. I am know considering go...I used to love to teach. I am know considering going back to the business world. Same hours...Same money and less noise....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-1128645805933437002005-10-06T20:43:00.000-04:002005-10-06T20:43:00.000-04:00This contract has more negative than positive for ...This contract has more negative than positive for us. We are not shown any respect. We are required to have a masters degree within 5 years, which they do not even pay for, and now we are expected to do lunch duty, hall patrol, etc. We are very educated people. We should not be pulled into doing these duties. We didn't go to school to go watch these kids eat lunch. This was not a course in my masters program. Anyway, we need to fight this.<BR/><BR/>Vote NO!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-1128638041102702962005-10-06T18:34:00.000-04:002005-10-06T18:34:00.000-04:00This is the lousiest contract ever. Why do we have...This is the lousiest contract ever. Why do we have to give time. VOTE NO! The two additional days before labor day are not fully for preparation. Some of the time from those two days will be used for preparation. Every contract will be more and more time. Soon will be working 365 days. Hm how many of us have airconditioning in our classrooms??? This is not a raise. Do the mathAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-1128604093401001892005-10-06T09:08:00.000-04:002005-10-06T09:08:00.000-04:00Some raise...I thought we were paying UFT dues so ...Some raise...I thought we were paying UFT dues so the UFT can advocate for us. Am I missing something here?<BR/><BR/>Ana<BR/>School SecretaryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-1128554529485293932005-10-05T19:22:00.000-04:002005-10-05T19:22:00.000-04:00What a sell out? Worse than ever. Nothing left f...What a sell out? Worse than ever. Nothing left for the union to do but collect our money.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-1128545422134277152005-10-05T16:50:00.000-04:002005-10-05T16:50:00.000-04:00Yes. I see that. First two days in August. The nex...Yes. I see that. First two days in August. The next sellout will have Weingarten saying "Two days worked out well. Let's make it five." Then the next time two weeks, and so on and so on. The new teachers who were duped by Weingarten would be cursing while working on a 100 degree August day with no air conditioning, a nd a supervisor who places a letter in your file for not wearing long pants and a tie if you're a male, and wearing an outfit which exposes your arms and knees if you are a female.<BR/><BR/>Jeff, I support you at all of the DA meetings, telling Randi's plants to shut up and let you speak. I hope that you don't mind if I copy your post to hang up in my school, and if I post a link to the ICEUFT blog on my blog.Richard Skibinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01383236094114804166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-1128528004591790242005-10-05T12:00:00.000-04:002005-10-05T12:00:00.000-04:00Vote NO!! Randi sold us out. This is not a fair ...Vote NO!! Randi sold us out. This is not a fair contract. Pretty soon we will be working 12 months - doesn't anyone see that?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-1128524502727069252005-10-05T11:01:00.000-04:002005-10-05T11:01:00.000-04:00This contract is a complete sell out, even the so ...This contract is a complete sell out, even the so called raise is a sham, the DOE owes us that money from no contract last 2and ahalf years. and will it pay the rent? Medical bills? etc.? It is a sham. The fact that the union president weingarten agreed that teachers will receive a $5000 check on Nov. 1st just before the elections for mayor, it shows that Bloomberg and Weingarten are in bed, this is business unionism in its essence. The principals and the AP's will have a ball abusing the basic rights of teachers in the schools, we are going back to the days when we din't have unions, new teachers be aware you are the ones who are going to be exploited and abuse by power hungry administratos , whohave very little knowledge of education. Yes there is hope, don't listen to those who are cynical about our ability to cause change. We can do it if we vote NO< NO to this contract. Be ware of the brain washing that is starting right now by the NYT, UFT sellouts, other intellectual "serious minded", why is the Union leadership waiting untill after the elections to vote for the contract? This very fact should tell much. Vote NO.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-1128519662198510952005-10-05T09:41:00.000-04:002005-10-05T09:41:00.000-04:00that is why we MUST talk to every teacher we know ...that is why we MUST talk to every teacher we know and tell them why this contract is so bad. yeah, the younger teachers might vote anyway--but, they might listen to the teachers with experience--the ones that tell them to VOTE NO!!!!k-bnakedladyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10882911116104964054noreply@blogger.com