tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post2490244098340464705..comments2024-03-07T15:25:26.971-05:00Comments on ICEUFT Blog: DE BLASIO WILL ALLOW KIDS TO SIT CLOSER TOGETHER AT SCHOOL AND WILL CHANGE RULE THAT CLOSES A SCHOOL FOR TEN DAYS WITH TWO COVID INFECTIONS AS EXPERT WARNS THAT CHILDREN ARE MAJOR SPREADERS OF UK VARIANT; Updated with Mulgrew StatementJeff Kaufmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11728874415155394751noreply@blogger.comBlogger92125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-17436055099605692892021-04-08T07:35:59.432-04:002021-04-08T07:35:59.432-04:00Businesses requiring vaccine passports will host l...Businesses requiring vaccine passports will host lefties while businesses that don’t will host righties. The free market will determine who stays in business. I’m vaccinated but I’m not signing up for any passport. I can socialize and have fun without showing my papers. Few years away from relocating to Florida the land of the free so if I have to skip some venues between now and then it’ll just mean I’ll have more money to spend in Florida rather than NY. Too many of you are willing to let us be stripped of rights. Not on board with it even though I chose to get vaccinated. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-87829809986905096422021-04-07T22:39:06.738-04:002021-04-07T22:39:06.738-04:00Enjoying this convo. @4:46 eat a fat dick. Meanwhi...Enjoying this convo. @4:46 eat a fat dick. Meanwhile, the left pushes for your body your choice as a major abortion weapon. Typical double standard self-hating hypocrite.<br /><br />https://nypost.com/2021/04/06/246-fully-vaccinated-michigan-residents-get-covid-3-die-report/<br /><br />Let's give this vaccine to kids who have 99.999% SURVIVAL with little to no effects.<br /><br />Anon2323https://www.blogger.com/profile/12920550598769579282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-84198419974827193032021-04-07T19:02:28.789-04:002021-04-07T19:02:28.789-04:00653. Agreed, in one way or another we are drained ...653. Agreed, in one way or another we are drained to prop up this system. Government money being our money. I was referring to out of pocket charges. Interesting twist you propose there, mandating it to add to big Pharma profits. I don't see it really happening though, but when you put it that way it wouldn't be too surprising.Justinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07322507433978908682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-68269344065194487762021-04-07T18:53:12.478-04:002021-04-07T18:53:12.478-04:006:18 There's no such thing as a free lunch. Th...6:18 There's no such thing as a free lunch. The govt paid billions for the doses themselves, and paid billions more to support their development in the first place. <br /><br />Govt, not big Pharma, will also pay for any and all damages proven to be caused by vaccines. <br />https://www.hrsa.gov/vaccine-compensation/index.html<br /><br />As if that wasn't enough, Pfizer is already talking about raising covid vaccine prices. <br />https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pfizer-covid-vaccine-price-hike-post-pandemic/<br /><br />Crony capitalism at its finest. If I had to bet on it I'd predict mandated annual vaccines, for the sake of big Pharma. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-45023381484087729242021-04-07T18:18:42.967-04:002021-04-07T18:18:42.967-04:00441 Yup. I actually don't see this becoming ma...441 Yup. I actually don't see this becoming mandated. Most especially because I do think this currently free of charge vaccine will eventually come at a cost in some way. I don't see big pharma willing to produce enough free of charge vaccinations annually to cover school children and staff. Justinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07322507433978908682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-31300109180960933402021-04-07T18:15:49.507-04:002021-04-07T18:15:49.507-04:00412 huh? I like the word coherency. 412 huh? I like the word coherency. Justinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07322507433978908682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-24676477889842842052021-04-07T17:05:51.836-04:002021-04-07T17:05:51.836-04:00First they'll require the passports for you to...First they'll require the passports for you to get in to businesses. So much for freedom of movement. <br /><br />In Israel, months after instituting their Green Pass, they are already threatening to revoke the passport of parents who do not get their kids vaccinated. What if I don't want my child to get an experimental vaccine with no long term safety data, when their risk from covid is minimal. <br /><br />246 0-17 year old have died from covid<br />https://www.statista.com/statistics/1191568/reported-deaths-from-covid-by-age-us/<br /><br />Like James pointed out earlier, another 1000 or so have gotten a dangerous inflammatory condition. <br /><br />And what will their passport lead to next? Years or decades down the line? Govt programs don't just go away. They're only expanded. In ways not originally imaginable. <br /><br />Naomi Wolf, lifelong democrat, not exactly a "right wingnut", understands what's going on. If you're curious why don't you check her out and evaluate another perspective, before she's removed from the rest of the major platforms, instead of imaging how nice it would be for your coworkers to get forced on unpaid leaves. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-34129964248579836802021-04-07T16:46:31.624-04:002021-04-07T16:46:31.624-04:00Right wingnuts are really afraid of COVID passport...Right wingnuts are really afraid of COVID passports. I would favor mandatory vaccines to work next year just to see you freedom lovers forced onto unpaid leaves.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-18798450328819468442021-04-07T16:41:32.033-04:002021-04-07T16:41:32.033-04:003:18 Part of the reason certain vaccines are requi...3:18 Part of the reason certain vaccines are required are because those diseases are more dangerous than covid and have been effectively eradicated in the US. Not possible with something like covid or the flu, virus mutates too often. <br /><br />Also, currently mandated vaccines have years of safety data available. Covid vaccines are EUA only and have no long-term safety data. If you trust big Pharma then great, get it. I don't and am more than happy to go back to work w/o their vaccine. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-20676774731677971832021-04-07T16:37:02.807-04:002021-04-07T16:37:02.807-04:004:12 how do you suggest we fight back against dict...4:12 how do you suggest we fight back against dictator cuomos excelsior pass? I'm all ears. <br /><br />I'll take my money to neighboring states if NY businesses insist on it, I'm already doing that anyway, but what if they say we need it to get in to school? If it's just a few people here and there then they can try to fire us. Similarly how they said teachers who do not consent to covid testing will be put on unpaid leave. That's why we need to stick together, but based on the way teachers have not stuck together over the past year + how many people treat what "the experts" say as gospel, I'm not optimistic. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-32860863622035175722021-04-07T16:12:14.530-04:002021-04-07T16:12:14.530-04:00313 typical lefty thinking he needs to clear his w...313 typical lefty thinking he needs to clear his word choice with the group think tank. You can use whatever words you like, dear. But if you use the words expert, racist, or conspiracy theory no one take you seriously anymore. There will be no involuntary passports no matter how hard you freedom haters try.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-15731542323428253942021-04-07T15:18:09.964-04:002021-04-07T15:18:09.964-04:00134 Definitely agree with the sovereignty of one&#...134 Definitely agree with the sovereignty of one's own body, but yet vaccinations are already a requirement for schools and universities. These vaccines of course will wear off like the flu shot.. then what? Require an annual vaccine? None of the current vaccine requirements are annual ones. A lot of nuance here to be fiddled with. Justinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07322507433978908682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-52941723766126097772021-04-07T15:13:32.605-04:002021-04-07T15:13:32.605-04:001252. Countries are using them to avoid vaccinated...1252. Countries are using them to avoid vaccinated people needing to be tested and quarantined when traveling. It's not that wild really, though i imagine there will be, as they say, "legal challenges." As far as entering buildings, sounds like a decision for the private sector and business owners. They make their own rules. <br />And i suppose you can use Commie plot when the US becomes a Communist government, but until then it is a Capitalist plot here.Justinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07322507433978908682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-91455988893670909502021-04-07T13:34:03.756-04:002021-04-07T13:34:03.756-04:00Naomi Wolf has been pushing against vaccine passpo...Naomi Wolf has been pushing against vaccine passports and government overreach in general. Of course after her recent interview on Tucker, Wikipedia threw "conspiracy theorist" into the second sentence of her bio. Facebook blocked her last night. Can't have anyone speaking out against the authoritative sources.<br /><br />At least for now the DOE isn't requiring vaccines. Once they do we all have to stand up against them, actually act like a union. Since the vaccine is near 100% effective against severe disease, those who are afraid to be around the unvaccinated (who will eventually have natural immunity if they don't already) can just get the vaccine. Personal choice. Why should the DOE be able to violate the sovereignty of our bodies. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-87456055603781692482021-04-07T13:31:20.598-04:002021-04-07T13:31:20.598-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Justinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07322507433978908682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-16570070644952035102021-04-07T12:52:12.180-04:002021-04-07T12:52:12.180-04:00They are talking vaccine passports which let you b...They are talking vaccine passports which let you board a plane or enter a building. It's coming whether right wing nut jobs like it or not. Instead of conspiracy theory, can we still use Commie plot?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-39914551773977595062021-04-07T12:43:25.863-04:002021-04-07T12:43:25.863-04:00Anon2323 and others don’t have to justify shit. Th...Anon2323 and others don’t have to justify shit. Their body. Their choice. Abortion rights advocates best beware. If the courts force vaccinate,the pro lifers will have precedents to run to court with. I’m vaccinated and for selfish reasons I’d like everyone to be vaccinated because vaccinated people don’t spread the virus but I 100% support those who do not want this new vaccine that so far only has emergency approval. The CDC along with the NYT has lost their credibility. So what they say is no more important than what anyone says. I still took the damn vaccine. My body. My choice. Btw “conspiracy theory” is now just another overused buzzword like “experts” and “racist” . It means nothing anymore. You can thank the fake news for this mess. Whatever their agenda is, it’s not to objectively give us facts. No one trusts them anymore either so the more they push for masks and vaccines the more resistant people become. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-35885418634944953122021-04-06T21:02:21.676-04:002021-04-06T21:02:21.676-04:00' According to the CDC’s website, “the CDC fol...' According to the CDC’s website, “the CDC follows up on any report of death to request additional information and learn more about what occurred and to determine whether the death was a result of the vaccine or unrelated.” '<br /><br />' Although the CDC and U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) have various systems in place to monitor the safety of vaccines, they are not “up and running” and do not have adequate resources behind them, Kesselheim said. '<br /><br /><br /><br />It seems they acknowledge what you are saying James. <br /><br />I think the issue is they were unprepared for and unable to keep up with all the reports being generated. Think about how many reports they get in a normal year. And are used to monitoring. <br /><br />All of a sudden they are getting so many reports that their computer system literally can't keep up. How could they possibly have the manpower to investigate each claim? <br /><br />Ignoring the crazy conspiracy theories, it's reasonable to not trust them to be on top of this. Like you said, no bad faith, but hiring enough people to take care of this isn't easy. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-7085010941197329662021-04-06T20:37:50.104-04:002021-04-06T20:37:50.104-04:00Interesting how the website you sent me to ignores...Interesting how the website you sent me to ignores the part where the CDC reports, "A review of available clinical information including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records revealed no evidence that vaccination contributed to patient deaths."<br /><br />Long term studies are kind of hard to do when COVID has only been around since 2019. <br /><br />I think we will do a posting on COVID passports. We have vaccination mandates before kids can go to school.<br /><br />As for vaccinating my kids and me, I will trust our doctors and not some right wing website.James Eternohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13578647381229034792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-29272982112362776092021-04-06T20:23:54.330-04:002021-04-06T20:23:54.330-04:00https://noqreport.com/2021/04/04/number-of-covid-v...https://noqreport.com/2021/04/04/number-of-covid-vaccine-injuries-reported-to-vaers-surpasses-50000-cdc-data-show/<br /><br /><br />James why would you give your teenager a vaccine that has 99.9% survival with no idea of the long term effects it could have in the future? It would be one thing if it's been 2 years with no science or data to show otherwise then I can see as a parent doing that.<br /><br />With covid passports, baseball-only allowing vaccinated people, our rights are being stripped away. Just like cancel culture takes away anyone with an R next to it.<br /><br />Speaking of MLB (BLM backwards) they can go to hell for ridiculous movement of the all-star game. Anon2323https://www.blogger.com/profile/12920550598769579282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-11512433465089600762021-04-06T20:23:24.962-04:002021-04-06T20:23:24.962-04:00NYTimes today:
2021
United States coronavirus ca...NYTimes today:<br /><br />2021<br /><br />United States coronavirus cases have increased again after hitting a low point late last month, and some of the states driving the upward trend have also been hit hardest by variants, according to an analysis of data from Helix, a lab testing company.<br /><br />The country’s vaccine rollout has sped up since the first doses were administered in December, recently reaching a rolling average of more than three million doses per day. And new U.S. cases trended steeply downward in the first quarter of the year, falling by almost 80 percent from mid-January through the end of March.<br /><br />But during that period, states also rolled back virus control measures, and now mobility data shows a rise in people socializing and traveling. Amid all this, more-contagious variants have been gaining a foothold, and new cases are almost 20 percent higher than they were at the lowest point in March.<br /><br />“It is a pretty complex situation, because behavior is changing, but you’ve also got this change in the virus itself at the same time,” said Emily Martin, an epidemiologist at the University of Michigan School of Public Health.<br /><br />James Eternohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13578647381229034792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-1369521122549548322021-04-06T20:18:47.948-04:002021-04-06T20:18:47.948-04:005:11: Seniority right? What are those?5:11: Seniority right? What are those?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-76533376561638817632021-04-06T19:51:34.278-04:002021-04-06T19:51:34.278-04:00I don't get your comparison Shelley. Being vig...I don't get your comparison Shelley. Being vigilant to save lives is more important than the growth rate of the GDP. Scientists are warning of dangers of reopening too soon.James Eternohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13578647381229034792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-68414763279873326682021-04-06T19:26:42.366-04:002021-04-06T19:26:42.366-04:00James writes,
"We can probably drastically c...James writes, <br />"We can probably drastically cut down on future deaths by being vigilant a while longer but we more than likely won't because of selfishness."<br /><br /><br />We can probably increase the GDP and reduce future deaths if we all buy new cell phones but we more than likely won't because of frugality. <br /><br />Wouldn't pass mustard in any logic or debate class you taught at Jamaica, James. <br /><br /><br />Shelleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-14973167010468093342021-04-06T18:51:50.918-04:002021-04-06T18:51:50.918-04:00"A review of available clinical information i..."A review of available clinical information including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records revealed no evidence that vaccination contributed to patient deaths."<br /><br />So the CDC is only passively "investigating". If no one orders an autopsy then there is nothing for the CDC to examine. <br /><br />I myself have decided not to get the vaccine. I plan on emailing my principal soon to rescind my medical accommodation. <br /><br />However my main motivation for returning w/o vaccine is<br />1. I'm concerned about possible effects down the road. For eg prior animal studies on coronavirus vaccines found that vaccination actually caused more serious infection in the future. Fauci has brought up these studies himself. <br />2. We now know that COVID is not nearly as deadly as we originally thought. That risk is acceptable to me. <br /><br />Whether or not someone wants the vaccine is their choice. Whatever happened to my body, my choice? <br /><br />Regardless of vax status, I think that we all need to go back to work. Though if someone wants to continue milking their accommodation, then I guess that is their prerogative. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com