tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post3145551152276622381..comments2024-03-07T15:25:26.971-05:00Comments on ICEUFT Blog: MOST ATRs WILL HAVE FULL RIGHTS WHEN PLACED IN THE FALLJeff Kaufmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11728874415155394751noreply@blogger.comBlogger72125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-2230906578696092872021-06-10T09:20:29.196-04:002021-06-10T09:20:29.196-04:00This is what, at a DA, we would call a point of pe...This is what, at a DA, we would call a point of personal privilege.<br /><br />A few days ago (June 6, 6:23) – a reader saw my name, and decided that would be a good time to attack me and my school and my colleagues. Had nothing to do with what I’d written, or what was being discussed.<br /><br />He’s cowardly. He’s hiding behind anonymity to hurl insults.<br /><br />He takes 30 lines to say that my school is ugly, and that the teachers in my school are not the best in the Bronx, but that we look good because the kids come in via a test.<br /><br />All of the senior teachers in my school worked at regular schools, mostly regular Bronx high schools. Clinton. Truman. JFK. Taft. Columbus. Smith, Walton. Almost all of the not-as-senior teachers came from other schools in the City, including Bronx mini-high schools (inside Columbus, Taft, Clinton, Lehman, etc). We know what a regular school looks like. We know how much harder the work is there. <br /><br />If you put a piece of meat in front of one of our classes, that class would learn – as long as the meat assigned homework. I know that. Most of the staff at my school knows that.<br /><br />Our staff is like any New York City high school staff – with pretty much the full range of teachers. I’m kind of shocked to read that someone is comparing the quality of faculties.<br /><br />Cowardly, and with an inferiority complex?<br /><br />One way our staff IS different is that the principal avoids hiring brand new teachers. Today no one at my school has less than 5 years in the system. We only have a few with less than 10 years teaching. In fact, we have more who joined our faculty via the Absent Teacher Reserve. <br /><br />The coward also takes a shot at my school for cherry picking kids (that’s not exactly how the specialized high school test works, but it amounts to something similar, point taken). There are nine schools in the City that use that test. There is something wrong with that system. In my school, we try to bring more Bronx kids in through the Discovery program. We are taking the maximum number that way that the City will currently allow. But if there is something wrong with the SHSAT system, say it. Go after all the schools. Stuyvesant, Bronx Science AND American Studies.<br /><br />What kind of person attacks only the smallest? Put down your hands. We all know. A coward. I would have accepted “bully” too.<br /><br />He also attacks – our building? Really. He thinks it was a pumphouse for the reservoir. Actually, the building up the block that looks like a pumphouse? That was the pumphouse.<br /><br />He claims “Environment – rated F” which is completely false. I don’t place stock in the DoE’s rating systems, but the environment ratings have always fallen between the highest possible, and very high.<br /><br />He asks to “compare American Studies to my hometown high school where my kids go“ (because our athletic facilities our inferior?) OK, let’s do it. What high school?<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />I don’t know that the commenter is pedagogically inferior. But coward, or keyboard warrior, or whatever you call him, he is morally inferior. <br /><br />See how I did that? I judged you – for how you behaved. And I put my name at the end.<br /><br />Jonathan Halabi<br />UFT Chapter Leader,<br />HS of American Studies at Lehman College.<br />Jonathan D Halabihttp://jd2718.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-27983957800176981302021-06-07T21:28:46.211-04:002021-06-07T21:28:46.211-04:00What do you think will happen to excessed teachers...What do you think will happen to excessed teachers in the future? Are they going back to the original bumping according to seniority. Are ATRs a thing of the past???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-53933105510198111972021-06-07T18:37:19.138-04:002021-06-07T18:37:19.138-04:009:19 is so right. I graded with American studies...9:19 is so right. I graded with American studies teachers and they thought they were so much better. Maspeth too. And they weren’t s of aware enough to realize it’s just their STUDENTS that are better not them. In fact I would argue that teachers who teach in the “come one come all” schools are better teachers. Why? Because they can and have experience teaching all levels of students. Ike the othencommenter said let that principal be the principal at Grover Cleveland, flushing , John Adams etc and see him do well there. THAT is an achievement. You take the top ten percent from the city and they do well on the regents exams? Wow amazing Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-72965285375360113972021-06-07T16:20:24.896-04:002021-06-07T16:20:24.896-04:00Good name! 😂😂😂Good name! 😂😂😂David Sukerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03449669119812923367noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-40356005856405079062021-06-07T16:19:42.165-04:002021-06-07T16:19:42.165-04:00Good name! 😂😂😂Good name! 😂😂😂David Sukerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03449669119812923367noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-36300678656897034532021-06-07T15:00:30.052-04:002021-06-07T15:00:30.052-04:00Weiss worked in a big Bronx school. I am confident...Weiss worked in a big Bronx school. I am confident he was a decent guy then too. Time to move on from the HSAS attacks please. ATR placent is the tipic.James Eternohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13578647381229034792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-29110078684145839902021-06-07T14:10:57.920-04:002021-06-07T14:10:57.920-04:00Alessandro Weiss. Why in the world would he not b...Alessandro Weiss. Why in the world would he not be a great guy? He was hand picked and given a golden egg. Since he's such a great principal and has the number one school in the country, let him share his knowledge and experience. Place him in any high school in district 8 or 9. Within weeks, he won't be such a "nice guy" who you'd work for in a "heartbeat". The teachers at ASHS basically are average. They should thank the kids every day for showing up to that old pumphouse in the parking lot. What a disgrace for a "school location". I hope the DOE keeps them there. School needs to be renamed to American Parking Lot Pump House Reservoir High School. APLPHRHS.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-26390569702099778472021-06-07T13:02:39.087-04:002021-06-07T13:02:39.087-04:008:55: I'm glad someone else realizes this bes...8:55: I'm glad someone else realizes this besides me. I was at Bard HS a few years ago. The teachers there had their heads so high in the clouds, they could smell the rain before it fell. It is so much easier to look like you're a good teacher when you have the top achieving students and look like a crumby teacher when you have the lowest achieving students. This is why there should be no specialized or elite schools. If you want to keep the elite schools, don't pick on the teachers that choose to work in the low achieving schools. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-48764532574820945822021-06-07T12:22:45.078-04:002021-06-07T12:22:45.078-04:00Principal at HSAS is Alessandro Weiss. I would wo...Principal at HSAS is Alessandro Weiss. I would work for him in a second.James Eternohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13578647381229034792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-13050533168149348322021-06-07T12:05:02.718-04:002021-06-07T12:05:02.718-04:00My wife taught at HSAS for a year. Good chapter le...My wife taught at HSAS for a year. Good chapter leader; principal is a decent guy who supports his staff, the students and parents. Exceptional kids, for sure. My wife tells me it was a wonderful place to work at and she knew how fortunate she was to be there. I visited on several occasions. It was a healthy environment that I witnessed.James Eternohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13578647381229034792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-14732474425326977622021-06-07T11:35:09.668-04:002021-06-07T11:35:09.668-04:00I was there too and I think Jon is a great teacher...I was there too and I think Jon is a great teacher, but you are right about some of the arrogant teachers that are at that school. Especially the SS department! 😂😂😂David Sukerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03449669119812923367noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-62741389600504873242021-06-07T11:32:07.957-04:002021-06-07T11:32:07.957-04:00Yes I agree. I was only there for a couple of mont...Yes I agree. I was only there for a couple of months and he comes off as a genuine and good person. Leadership starts at the top.<br /><br />David Sukerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03449669119812923367noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-50998489020666449322021-06-07T09:19:05.379-04:002021-06-07T09:19:05.379-04:00If American studies high school is sooo good why d...If American studies high school is sooo good why doesnt the doe move the school to a complex with a field and auditorium, gymnasium, etc. Lehman college is nice but the grounds were build for the college not american studies hs. I want to say that the principal at american studies is a nice gentlemen and I believe he is a good reason for the schools success. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-86873380466900535082021-06-07T08:58:39.890-04:002021-06-07T08:58:39.890-04:00It all looks good on paper but there are things th...It all looks good on paper but there are things they left opened. First if your an atr now that was not hired provisional then you most likely will stay at your school at no cost to the principal. It doesnt mean the principal will put you in a fixed position and probably will not. They will use you to however they want which will will probably be ok by most atrs even the ones in shitty schools. The atrs that had a provisional position will be forced placed in the school they are currently in which will not go too good for the principal who doesnt want a high salary. But all this means nothing until the atrs find out where they are. It all comes down to money. If we are forced place we will still get harassed by principals who dont want to pay. Its a step in the right direction but if they want to end all of this they need to end fair student funding. Let the doe pay all salarys and take the pressure of principles. Principles are educators too, not business managers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-27773323780106600192021-06-07T08:55:08.067-04:002021-06-07T08:55:08.067-04:00James, in regards to my post about American Studie...James, in regards to my post about American Studies (Jon) I can tell you from direct experience. I was literally there. You were not. My point was more about teachers who work in specialized schools with cherry picked students and how they THINK they are special or talented. Again, I was there. I witnessed the arrogance and the delusion of the teachers who actually think they were elite or on another level because of working at American Studies. In my rotations over the years, I can name a minimum of 10 schools that have a dominant teacher force over American Studies. It's just pathetic. James, you were not at the school and I am not attacking Jon. I am simply disgusted by teachers who are ordinary, nothing special, but happen to work in a school like that and somehow think they're talented, when in fact they are regular, at best.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-77376557094436791942021-06-06T20:04:09.827-04:002021-06-06T20:04:09.827-04:006:23 When did Jonathan ever say teachers at HSAS t...6:23 When did Jonathan ever say teachers at HSAS think they are the best? Like never. Cheap shot comment but if it makes you feel better to hurl pointless insults, I hope you are happy and will move on.James Eternohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13578647381229034792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-34851540559917063732021-06-06T19:47:15.285-04:002021-06-06T19:47:15.285-04:00Oft topic but when are 65 court, try, uft opening?...Oft topic but when are 65 court, try, uft opening?they push for all in person no word on when they open.hmmm.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-1365277942578434302021-06-06T19:46:53.815-04:002021-06-06T19:46:53.815-04:00Thank you 7:01 for doing the research.Thank you 7:01 for doing the research.James Eternohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13578647381229034792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-59874199326703449222021-06-06T19:44:23.828-04:002021-06-06T19:44:23.828-04:00Depends on how many years he or she has. You can r...Depends on how many years he or she has. You can retire with penalties if you don't have 30 years.you can leave at 20 years and they tell u how many years to be vested and how many to get medical.consult to get true answer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-53635105621606404032021-06-06T19:40:40.248-04:002021-06-06T19:40:40.248-04:00I'm definitely quitting. 1 more year. I will...I'm definitely quitting. 1 more year. I will be 42 in the summer of 2022 with 20 years completed. I know I cant retire but thought I could take terminal leave since I'm truly resigning, I guess not, according to the literature. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-90529109458604644812021-06-06T19:01:43.663-04:002021-06-06T19:01:43.663-04:00Based on this, at 42 years old, you would be INELI...Based on this, at 42 years old, you would be INELIGIBLE for terminal leave because you would not be able to retire. <br /><br />"Upon application in accordance with the rules enumerated below, absence from duty Retirement Leave of Absence (Terminal Leave)<br />with full pay may be granted to a member of the teaching, supervising, or attendance staff under regular appointment, who is a<br />member of the Teachers Retirement System and who will be eligible for service retirement upon completion of the leave."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-4635819493041949882021-06-06T18:49:26.155-04:002021-06-06T18:49:26.155-04:00To 5:37 I recommend a consult about resigning vs r...To 5:37 I recommend a consult about resigning vs retiring.if you have enough years, maybe retiring is better.you can collect at the age allowed 55 or 62)depending on if you opted in...)you should have a consult because there are penalties if u don't have enough years in.also there are time requirements to get lifetime medical and pension.ie vesting.consult urged to figure out your best option.good luck!imo, I don't see why u can't choose but I'm not knowledgeable enough.i have been to workshops.a consult and workshops will give the best answers.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-34975378256600486032021-06-06T18:23:59.924-04:002021-06-06T18:23:59.924-04:00Jonathan 4:36 you crack me up! You work at he num...Jonathan 4:36 you crack me up! You work at he number one school High School of American Studies. Cherry picked students from all over NYC coming to a little house structure in a freakin parking lot of Lehman College which was once the pump house for the reservoir. A prime example of how you can manipulate the numbers. A prime example of how if you're a teacher there, you actually think you're a good teacher. I was assigned to your crap school (environment rated F) with nothing for the kids. This is the number one school. This is how pathetic the DOE is. I laugh when I compare American Studies to my hometown high school where my kids go. We have a field, a real lunchroom, separate baseball areas for different ages, and the teachers are happy to work with any child that attends, not like your school. Let me inform you of something, the teachers I've encountered in my placements throughout the Bronx actually are better teachers than what I saw at your school. What does this mean? It means that without your student population, you and the rest of the "lucky teachers" that think they're the best, are actually ordinary. A dime a dozen. Thank your students Jon because they are what keeps your school where it is, not the teachers or your administration. Hey maybe the New York Mets can cherry pick any player they want and take as many as they need? That's a great idea huh? I really can't stand fake schools that are "screened" where the teachers think they are actually doing good. Those kids don't even need teachers. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-53973588416288471782021-06-06T17:37:35.752-04:002021-06-06T17:37:35.752-04:00I posted about terminal leave. I will be resignin...I posted about terminal leave. I will be resigning at 42 years old. Can I take terminal leave or it must be termination pay? Obviously, at 42, I will be nowhere near actual retirement age.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-19954098587139754652021-06-06T17:36:08.382-04:002021-06-06T17:36:08.382-04:00Unity censors just like James censors on this blog...Unity censors just like James censors on this blog.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com