tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post3891574017610514776..comments2024-03-07T15:25:26.971-05:00Comments on ICEUFT Blog: CLASS SIZE ARBITRATION IS A JOKEJeff Kaufmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11728874415155394751noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-72565656299137917852012-03-02T07:50:58.178-05:002012-03-02T07:50:58.178-05:00Just received a letter from my principal:
Please ...Just received a letter from my principal:<br /><br />Please be advised that, for the Spring 2012 semester, you class (class code) is over the limit. The NYCDOE has elected to invoke the 1/2 class exception, which the arbitrator accepted in case # A-077-C18698.<br /><br />It is a joke that we are accountable as teachers, but DOE can be so irresponsible!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-86259425379217152242010-12-27T11:24:49.774-05:002010-12-27T11:24:49.774-05:00I just noticed your discussion and here's some...I just noticed your discussion and here's some further info. In 1994, when I was a brand new chapter leader at Kennedy high school, the UFT had me appear with four other large Bronx high school chapter leaders in front of arbitrator Bonnie Weinstock. We testified to the routine use of the half-class exemption as a means to create oversized classes. She clearly ruled that when an exemption is routinely invoked, it becomes the rule rather than an exception. She imposed strict limits on future routine use of the exemption. Our contract has always held that arbitration decisions are in force and permanent. To my recollection, Joel Klein did sign our Collective Bargaining Agreement, though arbitral precedent has largely been ignored since the DOE took over from the BOE unless we go to court.Lynne Winderbaumnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-22368532130953113172010-11-04T22:56:22.487-04:002010-11-04T22:56:22.487-04:00Smellington you're the best. Run for UFT Pres...Smellington you're the best. Run for UFT President please.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-14921515906327056742010-10-31T18:35:33.688-04:002010-10-31T18:35:33.688-04:00I say, chaps, why this unholy obsession with size?...I say, chaps, why this unholy obsession with size? At the Smellington Academy, we say, as many as fit in a room, and then four or five more! We get the job done without any of this contract nonsense.<br /><br />Cheers!Smellington G. Worthington IIIhttp://smellington.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-35130839764467682782010-10-24T23:05:29.269-04:002010-10-24T23:05:29.269-04:00They used the exception at my school too. Classes ...They used the exception at my school too. Classes as high as 38 I think.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-76318386245348543162010-10-23T19:38:44.089-04:002010-10-23T19:38:44.089-04:00Do you guys from the Bronx really think the Tweedi...Do you guys from the Bronx really think the Tweedies care about some pre Klein arbitration that said they can't use the half class exception? As the case at Lewis showed, when they lose they don't follow the decision.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-87483836667609021432010-10-23T17:06:06.080-04:002010-10-23T17:06:06.080-04:00Schools still get away with the exceptions but it ...Schools still get away with the exceptions but it is supposed to be limited. If they are trying to reduce the oversize classes, they get an exemption.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-7992824185781435392010-10-23T15:19:12.006-04:002010-10-23T15:19:12.006-04:00Anon 5:54
They don't call the Jamaica Princip...Anon 5:54<br /><br />They don't call the Jamaica Principal "The Undertaker" for no reason.Chazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09964739497720364749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-59926232237742434512010-10-23T15:16:58.476-04:002010-10-23T15:16:58.476-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Chazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09964739497720364749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-78682558042736957492010-10-23T11:06:42.257-04:002010-10-23T11:06:42.257-04:00I just read this in Leonie Haimson's blogpage ...I just read this in Leonie Haimson's blogpage and I would like to share this with you.<br /><br />http://classsizematters.org/FAQ-class-size-2009v2.html<br /><br />James I might not belong to ICE, but I do support your efforts. You are an inspiration for many of the chapter leaders. Keep the faith and continue to fight!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-14012585818335663732010-10-23T10:48:08.903-04:002010-10-23T10:48:08.903-04:00James,
It's true what anon 8:56 is stating. ...James,<br /><br />It's true what anon 8:56 is stating. In fact, Lynne Winderbaum, former Bx HS DR, informed all the chapter leaders of this ruling each and every time in the 1st 10 days of September and in February.<br /><br />I feel that you need to get in contact with them for the actual ruling.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-24274749941698173662010-10-23T08:56:59.987-04:002010-10-23T08:56:59.987-04:00James, back in the mid 90's the UFT won a majo...James, back in the mid 90's the UFT won a major victory regarding class size infractions. An arbitrator ruled that they could NOT USE THE HALF CLASS EXCEPTION!!<br />The grievance department has that decision and you should insist upon having a copy. The DOE knows this all too well. The arbitration came out of the Bronx high schools Dave Shulman was the DR.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-84679019825153436602010-10-23T05:54:34.035-04:002010-10-23T05:54:34.035-04:00You need to mention that Jamaica's principal g...You need to mention that Jamaica's principal got rid of an experienced programmer last June to give the job to an assistant principal who clearly isn't up to the task.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-5984604849252800142010-10-22T21:48:44.282-04:002010-10-22T21:48:44.282-04:00Ironic that the geniuses observing Jamaica High Sc...Ironic that the geniuses observing Jamaica High School never say things like, "Gee, this school might run better if we didn't place 48 students in a classroom."NYC Educatorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12188066345722781723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-26276701588055750592010-10-22T20:05:41.600-04:002010-10-22T20:05:41.600-04:00Nothing like a strong, intimidating union behind u...Nothing like a strong, intimidating union behind us, huh?Pissed Off!!noreply@blogger.com