tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post4106362247151617556..comments2024-03-07T15:25:26.971-05:00Comments on ICEUFT Blog: NOT SO GREAT EXPECTATIONS FOR UFT ELECTION RESULTSJeff Kaufmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11728874415155394751noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-80340859950895461152016-05-27T06:22:23.455-04:002016-05-27T06:22:23.455-04:00I don't put as much stock in the Ex bd process...I don't put as much stock in the Ex bd process since it is often a black hole - nothing much escapes. When we had the seats from 2004-7 while you guys did a great job, the opposition didn't grow out of that. But I still hope we win because we have a great group of people and with social media we would have a chance to do something with these seats.<br />ed notes onlinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15018047869059226777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-54791459482943374232016-05-26T07:59:36.103-04:002016-05-26T07:59:36.103-04:00It is a disaster if we lose high schools. It will ...It is a disaster if we lose high schools. It will be the first time since 1993 election where there is zero voice, nothing, questioning anything Unity except for whatever limited impact we have at DA.James Eternohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13578647381229034792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-1827141268115010032016-05-26T06:40:30.394-04:002016-05-26T06:40:30.394-04:00Chris - hope to have you aboard - win or lose ther...Chris - hope to have you aboard - win or lose there is still much to do.<br />Unity is very concerned about the numbers even if they win. When numbers creep into the 35% range in the total school vote that puts the opposition within striking range in the election after that. That would mean winning HS and MS and getting elem schools in sights.<br />The numbers affect UNity's positions - they will say what they have to say to try to convince people - and if we push the abusive principal stuff and a harder contract stance they will be forced to move. That is why this vote will actually have an impact on the 2018 contract -- if things don't change much they see it as a mandate to continue their policies.<br />James - Hope you are feeling better. I agree with most of what you said but I do not see the loss of the high school seats as a disaster. I see that more of a lesson to the opposition - an organizing lesson. We know there are votes out there to get and they just weren't got.<br />The fact that this will be close and that Solidarity could keep MORE/NA from winning is a weakness, win or lose. I remember last summer we had a goal of 3000 HS votes to match the totals NA were getting 20 years ago. Unity used to get around that too. I think it became clear that that number was going to be tough to reach for any caucus -- and people need to analyze why that vote has dropped - the obvious answer is the break up of the large high schools and the weakening of the union generally and the opposition in the high schools specifically. Unity and the DOE may look at the outcome as a win-win.<br />Some of us from ICE - including James if he can walk - will be meeting at a diner Friday after school to sift through the numbers. ed notes onlinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15018047869059226777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-67897022826301224032016-05-25T22:04:19.712-04:002016-05-25T22:04:19.712-04:00Thanks Chris.Thanks Chris.James Eternohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13578647381229034792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-73118640467981355632016-05-25T21:30:10.274-04:002016-05-25T21:30:10.274-04:00Well the More caucus got me on board and my whole ...Well the More caucus got me on board and my whole dept. I'm ready to help out and join Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00536734020461838199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-43987824594582475082016-05-25T20:05:15.404-04:002016-05-25T20:05:15.404-04:00I certainly hope that the result tomorrow is gains...I certainly hope that the result tomorrow is gains for the slate in the HS executive board seats.<br /><br />I also hope that MORE/NA will conduct a full post-election assessment that doesn't simply ratify everyone's pre-election inclinations if the vote is less favorable. Meaning, that in 2019 if the slate has control of executive board seats and has used them well to raise important issues, fight again and harder. If there are no gains I hope that whoever is in power in MORE/NA will not assume, automatically, that opposition caucuses "are supposed" to run in union elections because they are such "great and effective" organizing tools. <br /><br />As I said, fingers-crossed for tomorrow. But, also, let's learn from experience, if experience is not so favorable and question deeply what opposition caucuses should do with their time, money and limited resources that advances a range of goals beyond "if there's an election, we must run."Harris L.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-36027808431602464012016-05-25T19:58:12.605-04:002016-05-25T19:58:12.605-04:00I dream of this at every election, work as hard as...I dream of this at every election, work as hard as I can to spread the word and wish I could wake them all up.James Eternohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13578647381229034792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-30964652744298233812016-05-25T18:18:02.469-04:002016-05-25T18:18:02.469-04:00Every time a teacher complains to me about somethi...Every time a teacher complains to me about something I simply ask, "Did you vote?". 99% of the time they say "no". I then tell them they have no ground to complain. (Yes, the retiree vote is unjust but the only way to beat that is to get the rank and file to ALL vote.) Just imagine if every single NYC teacher made an informed vote by researching the track record and platform that Unity stands for. Unity would be done in a heartbeat. The only people that would vote for Unity are the folks who work for them. Unity would be outnumbered 10 to 1 if every teacher not only knew how they operated, but if they got off their asses and voted. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-56848173250773057122016-05-25T17:51:32.272-04:002016-05-25T17:51:32.272-04:00Unity couldn't care less unless as long as the...Unity couldn't care less unless as long as they hold on to power. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-16463765159568926802016-05-25T17:45:06.407-04:002016-05-25T17:45:06.407-04:00Does the Unity machine care about opposition numbe...Does the Unity machine care about opposition numbers in the election as long as they win? In other words, if say MORE got 20% of the total vote, would Unity at least realize that there are a lot of non-happy teachers out there and maybe they should get off their asses and do something for the teachers in the trenches? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com