tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post5611241590742374839..comments2024-03-07T15:25:26.971-05:00Comments on ICEUFT Blog: UFT MISLEADS MEMBERS AS RAISES IN PROPOSED NEW CONTRACT WON'T BEAT EXPECTED INFLATION PROJECTIONSJeff Kaufmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11728874415155394751noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-17214214678193408782018-10-21T14:38:24.446-04:002018-10-21T14:38:24.446-04:00In our current contract, do we get back anything w...In our current contract, do we get back anything we gave back in 2005? I didn't think so.James Eternohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13578647381229034792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-17044988534933830532018-10-21T14:34:45.425-04:002018-10-21T14:34:45.425-04:00Paras starting salary in 2021 will be around $28,0...Paras starting salary in 2021 will be around $28,000 per year in NYC. That is nothing to write home about.James Eternohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13578647381229034792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-49525806019116641022018-10-21T14:33:00.515-04:002018-10-21T14:33:00.515-04:001% is what the city set aside for raises. Much of ...1% is what the city set aside for raises. Much of the rest we are paying for through healthcare concessions. Prediction was pretty close.James Eternohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13578647381229034792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-21233761452801696272018-10-21T13:24:35.325-04:002018-10-21T13:24:35.325-04:00Unions having Uniform “status” have done slightly ...Unions having Uniform “status” have done slightly better than civilian ones(like teachers), that said, they are usually around what everyone else gets in pattern bargaining and when they have gone to binding arbitration have taken significant losses for their increased raises like when they reduced staring pay by 25% for new hires. Patterns have only been broken for both with extreme givebacks. Take a look at the 2005 contract if you want a recent history lesson. This contract is a good one with good raises, stronger protections and due process for our Para professitionals. Go talk to a Para to see how important this provision is. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-1397624107484502132018-10-21T13:03:11.288-04:002018-10-21T13:03:11.288-04:00James weren’t you predicting 1% raises for all cit...James weren’t you predicting 1% raises for all city employees in your 3/8/18 column? LOLAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-34195289674504374282018-10-19T14:42:51.275-04:002018-10-19T14:42:51.275-04:00Opting out is the only sensible thing. I'm so ...Opting out is the only sensible thing. I'm so glad we have this blog to tell us why. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-38530156032515862932018-10-19T09:55:49.710-04:002018-10-19T09:55:49.710-04:00Mulgrew said on a podcast that negotiations almost...Mulgrew said on a podcast that negotiations almost blew up but they pushed through, working 18 hour days. Im curious, what was the first offer the city made? Did we have to pay then to work. Was it 3 years of zero? If it pattern bargaining, what did they negotiate? What did we gain? Just like in 2014, there were such amazing negotiations, but...What did the city ofefr at first? No retro? No raises? 9 years of zero? The uft is proud of the last 2 deals, it seems.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-83447687391288161372018-10-19T09:19:22.271-04:002018-10-19T09:19:22.271-04:00Please remember that in one arbitration, incoming ...Please remember that in one arbitration, incoming police officers salaries were REDUCED. Not the way I want to go!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-42579199440878911012018-10-19T08:33:05.716-04:002018-10-19T08:33:05.716-04:00You can put pressure on the city by organizing peo...You can put pressure on the city by organizing people and having a real contract campaign. Even if you don't get more money, you have gotten people excited about the union and you may make real non monetary gains like getting back some of the givebacks from 2005. You need to have a credible threat of a job action and not necessarily a strike. The PBA will set a uniform pattern that you can bet will beat DC 37, but not substantially, in arbitration. We could try to get that.<br /><br />As for the person questioning the numbers, UFT did it as if it were three annual raises but the contract goes for 43 months. That's more than half of a fourth year so you have to put in those four year totals. Add the extensions we added to the last contract and we have almost a full year of 0% yet again. The city is swimming in cash. No need to settle for peanuts under these circumstances.James Eternohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13578647381229034792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-35621851077667775782018-10-19T08:30:57.843-04:002018-10-19T08:30:57.843-04:00The MORE HS Ex Bd members say to vote yes on NYC E...The MORE HS Ex Bd members say to vote yes on NYC Educator<br />http://nyceducator.com/2018/10/vote-yes_19.html?m=1Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-75239728514697949432018-10-19T08:01:36.604-04:002018-10-19T08:01:36.604-04:00We won't get more money. We will just wait lon...We won't get more money. We will just wait longer to get the same thing. I don't w as tv y out deal with back pay again for a possible .1 or .2 here or thereAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-36934138709949025842018-10-19T07:55:10.723-04:002018-10-19T07:55:10.723-04:00So we vote no and go on strike and wait for PBA...So we vote no and go on strike and wait for PBA's arbitration (which I thought got slightly less last time)? This is not much of a strategy. Most people aren't willing to question their supervisors and you are asking then to go on strike? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-82461641302517295922018-10-19T07:44:49.406-04:002018-10-19T07:44:49.406-04:00If my memory serves ,the only time we received a s...If my memory serves ,the only time we received a substantial percentage above the pattern was in 2005.....which came with major give backs and more time. Can you point to any city Union that was able to achieve substantial raises above the pattern with as early or on time contract?<br />Do you think if we wait we will get more money?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-54328238108314372702018-10-19T07:27:24.849-04:002018-10-19T07:27:24.849-04:00Why is the UFT rushing this contract?Why is the UFT rushing this contract?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-7985401442614911482018-10-19T06:34:36.830-04:002018-10-19T06:34:36.830-04:0010:54, Pattern bargaining is not the law. It is a ...10:54, Pattern bargaining is not the law. It is a accepted practice. Prehistoric Pedagogue makes some interesting points.<br /><br />Why do an early contract unless it is something really spectacular?James Eternohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13578647381229034792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-80383645249976237802018-10-19T06:05:33.778-04:002018-10-19T06:05:33.778-04:00There are thousands more teachers in NYC than poli...There are thousands more teachers in NYC than police officers. The NYC DOE budget is billions more than that of the NYPD. I think teachers will always follow DC 37. <br /><br />If NYC eliminated the billions wasted in most of the middlemen between the teachers and the chancellor, then NYC could save a lot of money and present an enticing contract.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-33993080826686013392018-10-18T23:37:41.900-04:002018-10-18T23:37:41.900-04:00The Pattern is merely the amount the city wishes t...The Pattern is merely the amount the city wishes to pay. What you eventually get is the amount you are prepared to fight and sacrifice for. We really don’t need a union if we are going to roll over and settle. We should not be so willing to accept what the city is willing to give. Prehistoric pedagoguehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05309260131781133687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-41806900843221621472018-10-18T22:54:03.523-04:002018-10-18T22:54:03.523-04:00So Unions do not have to follow the pattern? Then ...So Unions do not have to follow the pattern? Then why do they? How would waiting for the PBA arbitration....setting another pattern help if pattern bargaining is not the law? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-64795131430395780532018-10-18T22:48:02.613-04:002018-10-18T22:48:02.613-04:00James are you saying that the sources sited by the...James are you saying that the sources sited by the UFT about projected inflation is untrue? But your sited prediction is true? How is the UFT lying? <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-65054937818215751832018-10-18T22:44:44.257-04:002018-10-18T22:44:44.257-04:00Pattern bargaining is not the law.Pattern bargaining is not the law.James Eternohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13578647381229034792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-8842234079337463222018-10-18T22:44:26.023-04:002018-10-18T22:44:26.023-04:00Mobilizing and threatening a job action or waiting...Mobilizing and threatening a job action or waiting for the PBA to settle in arbitration and linking ourselves to their second pattern.James Eternohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13578647381229034792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-23610277214288716112018-10-18T22:37:47.909-04:002018-10-18T22:37:47.909-04:00I am confused .
If we are subject to pattern barga...I am confused .<br />If we are subject to pattern bargaining and DC 37 set the pattern,which based on some predictions may be below the cost of living....how could a higher percent raise be achieved? <br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-40220997100293962352018-10-18T21:48:06.939-04:002018-10-18T21:48:06.939-04:00Gun found in PS 5 bathroom in Brooklyn. The uft h...Gun found in PS 5 bathroom in Brooklyn. The uft has also mislead us concerning our own safety.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-37380363057959457452018-10-18T20:02:31.708-04:002018-10-18T20:02:31.708-04:00Opting out will only make it worse for everyone. A...Opting out will only make it worse for everyone. Aside from that, you'll be benefiting from the hard work of others without paying your fair share. That's a shitty thing to do to your colleagues.<br />Mr. Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12016821245423812239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15921757.post-76589543543205025002018-10-18T19:43:34.478-04:002018-10-18T19:43:34.478-04:00I cant wait to ope out. Where is the website that ...I cant wait to ope out. Where is the website that opts out for you?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com