Norm Scott just emailed me that UFT Personnel Specialist Amy Arundell reported at the UFT Executive Board tonight that 200 ATRs have been hired. That would leave 800 ATRs according to Amy.
As one of those hired permanently, all I can say is it feels so much better to be a regular than waiting around for an email every week to find out where next week's employment will be.
I hope that 800 number includes people hired provisionally but we'll see what more we can learn.
Arthur Goldstein should have a full report from the Executive Board soon. We'll see if anything interesting occurred.
That's the least this lazy, do-nothing, incompetent DiBLAHsio can do for a union that supported him.
ReplyDeleteNext watch Meathead Mike stand up and proclaim VICTORY! Likely to be large type front page headline in that propaganda rag known as NY Teacher.
I don't believe a word out the mouth of Amy or Mulgrew. I'm sure the number of ATRs is over 2000. Being provisionally placed is pure bullshit for everyone.
ReplyDeleteDo not believe it. It is a sham to stop critism.
ReplyDeleteIt's reported in NYC educator blog: A. Arundell? Claims 200 ATRs were hired through incentive...800 are still rotating. What's the incentive? Ugh
ReplyDeleteWe are free to school for this year, half price next and 25% off for year 3. That is the incentive.
DeleteNobody believes anything they say.
DeleteMore should file a PERB complaint, and a harassment discrimination complaint with as much ATRs signatures as possible, and forget about Amy and Mulgrew.
DeleteThe UFT is hiding the ATR numbers, keeping silent on their negotiations, give us misinformation and don't allow us any input. Arundel is full of shit.
ReplyDeleteI only considered an ATR hired if they are hired permanently and are appointed to a school. Provisional does not mean squat.
ReplyDeleteI'm an ATR hired for a maternity leave position, but in no way is my job secure. Still, I am at a really good school and it's better than being stuck in some school of Hell.
ReplyDeleteJames,
ReplyDeleteDo you know if the ATRs who have been rotated/assigned/force-placed since February 12th until June, deemed"provisionally placed ATRs"?
Does anyone have an opinion?
Once your provisionally placed the DOE/UFT doesn't count you as an ATR.
ReplyDeleteThank you both...
DeleteI guess my question should have been
Does the school's administrators inform you that you are provisionally hired?
How do I know that I'm provisionally hired? Is it because my rotation hasn't changed since February? Many ATRs haven't rotated--are we the provisionally hired?!!!
P.S. I still receive weekly notices so maybe that's my answer--im not provisionally placed.
DeleteWaiting for Support, I know what you guys know and nothing more. 4:54 is totally right. Provisional hires go on school budgets but we end up right back in the ATR pool at the end of the school year.
ReplyDeleteThe UFT is intentionally withholding information from ATRs in order to silence our voices. They do not want criticism and do not want to openly show how they are supposedly representing us.
ReplyDeleteThe UFT and the DOE do not like older than 50 years old.
ReplyDeleteRumor has it there will be forced placement beginning September 1st. Mildew announced it in Fl. Rumor has it...
ReplyDeleteIf you are still getting the weekly email, you are not provisionally hired. Check your status at the DOE's Excess Staff Selection page. That will tell you if you are in excess.
ReplyDeleteI ran into a recently retired ATR at the Retired Teacher meeting yesterday. Natch she is happy. She was an ATR for 7 of her 20 years in the system. We first met about 5 years ago when I was with GEM and helping organize ATRs. At that time she really wanted to get a regular job. But over the years that changed. She was not in a bad district. SHe saw how much less work being an ATR was compared to what teachers were doing. When MORE did an ATR info session back in October with Chaz we took a poll and I believe a good chunk of people were not unhappy with the status quo other than the field supervisors, of course.
ReplyDeleteRemember pre-2005. When you were put in excess or school closed (and there were not many of those pre-2005) you were assigned to an open position at another school or bumped someone with less seniority. You had no choice. So that was the system for 50 years. SO going back to the "good old days" of seniority might be worse for some people though it would give some job security. Yet that is the rumor going around -- forced assignments though without seniority. Will they find cooperative principals who promise to hang some ATR pelts on their belts?
Or will James' experience be replicated? NYC Educator as CL has helped at least 4 former ATRs get placed permanently.
No information for ATRs about anything. A bunch of retirees in Florida get more information about us than we do. Mulgrew kiss my ass.
ReplyDeleteLol @7:48. I needed a chuckle. It's better than crying.
ReplyDeletePerb complaint and harassment-
ReplyDeletediscrimination complaint agaisnt field supervisors.
I received very vague answers about atr rotation.
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone know what is going to occur with ATRs next year?
Maybe cognac the great will kno
Common dude, you already know the answer - you just don't want to believe it. Force placed 9/1.
ReplyDeletePM
ReplyDeleteNorm, When a school closed before the 2005 contract, there was preferred placement for teachers in the impacted school. Teachers got to pick 6 schools and would be placed in one of them.