From NBC 4:
The New York
Police Department recorded 184 hate crimes through June 2 — up from 112 in
2018 — during a period when the city experienced a continued reduction in
overall crimes.
Of the 184
incidents, 110 targeted Jews, up from 58 in 2018.
There were
18 attacks motivated by the victim's sexual orientation — up from 15 in 2018 —
and 18 targeting victims who are black, up from 14, the NYPD said.
The next
highest targeted group was whites, who were victims in 11 hate crimes, up from
three in 2018.
The NYPD
says 75 people have been arrested in connection with the crimes.
I would have hoped we would be beyond this kind of hate crime attack problem in 2019 but alas we are not. I see in a number of the comments on this blog that sometimes there is a racial tone to them. I think we all need to look at what kind of society we want.
Notice, Jews being attacked most. Blacks are attacking whites, not the other way around. But I guess that is fine.
ReplyDeleteBlacks have never been attacked because of their skin color? That first comment is from a genius.
DeleteHate crime attacks against blacks are up. I don't think they are doing it to themselves.
ReplyDeleteJames doesn't seem to understand that this blog is a place where the genius who posted the first comment feels comfortable enough and that encourages him. We know as James points out that bias attacks against blacks have been an enormous factor. To allow distorted comments that allows racists to feel corroboration in the name of free speech is wrong-headed, especially for someone with bi-racial kids who are much more likely to come under attack than white kids. Free speech includes identifying yourself. If you are not willing to do that you lose your right to make distorted and ignorant comments on race. But then again I could have predicted this comment given the content of James' post. I would imagine there are so many issues to post about other than purposely putting up a red flag to attract enraged racists.
ReplyDeleteMany of the founders of ICE are appalled that the name of a progressive organization has become a safe haven for racists.
So should we just censor everything we disagree with and become an echo chamber Norm? All the opinions from A to B. C-Z not welcome. I would rather read the nonsense and refute it.
DeleteNorm, You are the one who pushed for comment moderation. Now, you are criticizing the moderating. There is no pleasing some people no matter what.
I will not ponder every comment. Many posts get a good conversation going. I take an average of five seconds contemplating each comment. When in doubt, I post. Free speech includes many anonymous writers who ghost wrote many things throughout history.
Also, when people with outlooks way to the right were running for convention delegate with ICE-TJC and even MORE through 2016, I didn't see Norm saying ICE or MORE was a safe haven for Reagan Republicans.
In 2017, blacks represented 12% of the U.S. adult population but 33% of the sentenced prison population. Whites accounted for 64% of adults but 30% of prisoners. And while Hispanics represented 16% of the adult population, they accounted for 23% of inmates.
ReplyDelete1:14, You need to look at the prison population in context. If you don't think there is some racism and classism in the criminal justice system, you need to look at it again from the police to the courts.
DeleteWe agree there is grade fraud all over the place and putting integrity back in the system is needed.
Nobody is pushing out white students.
The statistics I believe will show that there are fewer black teachers now in the NYC public schools as compared to before Joel Klein took over. It has not been moving toward a majority black teaching staff.
Schools don't fail. That is a preposterous notion. Students succeed or do not. We fail only when we don't provide the necessary conditions for kids to succeed. In that sense by not providing lower class sizes and better services for students, we have failed, not the kids.
As I stated yesterday, we need to find ways to pull us together, some of the comments just continue to pull us apart.
Everyone hates everyone. There’s a mass shooting monthly. Society is devolving - no one is reading or writing, the art of conversation is dead and the mindset is becoming ‘fear or be feared’. We have become completely self-absorbed individuals. Over the past ten years there has been a mass psychosis in this country and it’s evident everywhere. I personally believe its tied to our dependency on cell phones and the rewards and punishments of immediate gratification.
ReplyDeleteCould it be that all crimes are hate crimes? I am trying to think of a crime that does not originate from some inner hate or resentment held by the perpetrator.
ReplyDeleteAs long as society and especially the school systems around the country excuse and turn a blind eye to all sorts of violent, criminal, adverse, uncouth behavior, etc., crime will continue to rise.
The media always has a play in this. All about cell phones causing huge increases in social media bullying, anxiety, no attention spans, teaches them they need to have everything happen instantaneously.
ReplyDeleteOur school in Bronx tried, magnetic cases which worked for 2 weeks before students broke them or just put fakes inside. Like Bronx ATR said this generation especially is becoming beyond elf-absorbed and there are no true conversations. Only worried about how many likes they get.
ONLY HATE CRIME I SEE IS THE HATE I HAVE FOR DI BLASIO, CUOMO AND THE REST OF THE LIBERALS WHO HELP CAUSE THIS DIVISION!
But do you hate the conservatives who are trying to privatize education?
ReplyDeleteJames - I would have no issue if you officially made this your blog instead of carrying the name of what was a very progressive anti-racist caucus. I haven't pushed the issue because fundamentally ICE as an organization is irrelevant. But there is a history and it is tarnished because if we followed consensus as an organization in what gets to be posted this blog would not look the same.
ReplyDeleteLet's take this comment from 11:51 -- the unsourced stats may be true - or not. Either way there is a response needed because left to stand the assumption is that black people are inherently more likely to be criminals.
There are entire seminars that can debate these points and would include hundreds of years of history related to economic and political treatment which is not being done here at all. So it stands alone as a red flag and justifies negative views of black students,
Is it not true that Jews are most targeted?
ReplyDeleteThere was a consensus that Jeff and I would post what we felt was appropriate. There had to be trust. I don't know which post did not reflect caucus principles.
ReplyDeleteSome comments have always gone off deep end. Only since 2018 has anyone complained.
11:51 is one person's opinion. By all means, respond.
This one is for Norm. This is an except of a comment from 2005 after members from Port Richmond HS opposed the contract and had enough with their District rep pushing it.
ReplyDelete"We now sport the label of a "hardcore school" which begs the question "how hardcore is hardcore enough?" Is the act of questioning the people we pay to represent OUR interests a "hardcore" act? I don't think it is when compared to the other alternatives such as depositing him in the dumpster in our school parking lot."
Saturday, November 12, 2005 6:25:00 PM
Norm did not complain that threatening to deposit a union official in the dumpster in a school parking lot was not in keeping with ICE ideals. These Port Richmond folks were labeled as Fascists by the UFT. In response, Norm, Jeff Kaufman and I gladly met with them as I recall.
When folks, whom I assume are teachers, post racist nonsense it confirms the worst stereotypes to the DOE and the chancellor about White folks. (They read this blog over all others.) This creates more problems for White teachers from those admins that may want an excuse for their own racist views. Hate breeds hate. Teachers need to remember their true identity as the best and most educated people in society.
ReplyDeleteLook at our chancellor, mayor and the vast majority of nyc teaches--flailing anger against "toxic whiteness" and "eurocentrism." The stuff they get away with saying and doing would cause massive riots if the "colors" were reversed and we all know it. We have completely reversed the "content of character" idea of mlk and call it social justice. The left has returned to their superficial and hateful roots. Antifa is their new public, hidden, face.
ReplyDeleteBronx ATR has a very good conclusion although I am not so sure how widely read we are by DOE.
ReplyDeleteRace is a divide and conquer issue if ever there was one. If the 1% can keep us fighting ourselves because of what we look like,they can keep robbing us blind and treating us badly in schools where in our huge system, this issue cuts many ways. I have personally seen the race card used by administrators of different backgrounds against people from multiple groups.
ReplyDeleteAs my Jamaican wife told the white social justice warriors at a MORE meeting, the problem is class as much as race in 21st century America. Working people of all races need to be United if we are to achieve anything.
Telling us white people that we need to check our privilege or pointing out racial crime statistics while ignoring poverty and a history of massive oppression will not bring us together. I posted this to try to get people to see beyond today to have a vision of a better future but apparently some people just want to continue to voice their own grievances. Time to move ahead but I hope people at least understand where I am coming from.
Still wondering why, if things are so good in the school system, high school students can't read or write.
ReplyDeleteJames -- I think threatening to deposit some UFT slugs in a dumpster does fit the ICE mentality.
ReplyDeleteFunny thing James is as time went on some of those people did turn out to be what the some in the UFT claimed they were --- the charge of using Nazi iconography was not far off.
My problem here is that this has become your blog and it should be your right to allow anything you want here. But ICE was always bigger than both of us. So this is the only public face of ICE at this point -- in essence ICE doesn't really exist other than to meet occasionally. So why continue a fundamentally non-existent organization and give the impression this blog is somehow indicative of something that doesn't exist but give the impression that it does? Probably most people don't care enough to put up their own posts but maybe we should to give a broader perspective of what ICE always stood for? So I may send you some things to post.
Al Zucker said:
DeleteNorm,you and James Eterno have greatly benefited NYC's teachers with this blog.
If James were to walk away I really doubt that you would continue the blog at this point.
To accuse James of permitting the blog to be a forum for racists is a ridiculous departure from reality.
Yes there are obvious racists and Unity trolls (and possibly trolls from More) posting on the blog.
James sees to it that the most egregious posts are never published on the blog.Other offensive posts,particularly those of the racists, are efectively disembowled by powerful and incisive retorts served up by James.
The sort of contrived,blanket PC censorship that you propose would render the blog both useless and deadening.
And please don't bad mouth James.
Feel free to continue bad mouthing me as that would be most appropiate.As we well know that Al Zucker is demented and possibly psychotic.Many have complained about the overwhelming stench of his unwashed body and also of his overall slovenliness.
You guys are fighting things that are facts. The racial make-up of prison is a fact. The fact that most black high schools are failing, that is a fact. The fact that most students arent reading on grade level is a fact. Not writing on grade level, fact. If you want top be pro-black, fine. You can just be like Carranza and de blasio. Doesn't mean they are actually succeeding, just means grades are fake. Just keep pushing all the white students out, you see the results we are getting. So you will have an all back staff as well, how has that helped?
ReplyDeleteWhy look at people through the lens of race? The DOE, the UFT and you are wrong. Students are being shortchanged, the poor are in jail and unqualified people are being hired by Carranza same as when Klein was in office.
DeleteStill waiting for a list of successful majority black schools. James, I thought we agreed on the fake grades and fake graduation rate.
ReplyDelete1:58, The demographics of the neighborhood have changed but Jamaica Gateway which inherited the Gateway program from Jamaica HS and I think still has a black plurality does pretty well. There are many other schools where African American kids thrive without fraud.
DeleteJames, you provide a indispensable outlet. Don’t change or stop. I think looking at the emails before printing them is good. Printing offensive stuff isn’t agreeing with it - it allows learning. Same thing when I was teaching in the Bronx. I let the kids say whatever they wanted and then we discussed it.
ReplyDeleteNorm's like my mom - he enjoys provoking a good argument.
ReplyDelete"Funny thing James is as time went on some of those people did turn out to be what the some in the UFT claimed they were --- the charge of using Nazi iconography was not far off." Norm Scott
ReplyDeleteThen by your definition Norm we gave Nazi sympathizers a safe haven here. I find that ridiculous.
To James' point from 11:26 pm Saturday night and all of today, Yes, all true. But we need to stay with this topic because the mayor decided to make it (race and the mayor's view) the point of focus in mandatory workshops.
ReplyDeleteThe city will not let us move ahead to a tone of cooperation, positive relations and trust. We are stuck with the agenda of Carranza and his consultants.
'Richard Carranza's Diversity Spending Spree' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFNn9XRNAY0&list=PLOw57ShQvc8GYMIAJGdt_PHmhdWDMK35h&index=7
How did we reach a point where the racial assumptions of Carranza's workshop planners are not up for discussion before they are imposed on the system?
Guess who was on the uft float at Puerto Rican parade. Chancellor. That is why the teachers will always be the losers.
ReplyDeleteYou won't see it here much but Success Academy has many majority black schools where the students are doing well. They took the smart kids from the public schools.
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