Thursday, October 21, 2021

NOT MUCH TO CHOOSE FROM BETWEEN SLIWA AND ADAMS ON EDUCATION

 I saw this on Twitter:


Choose your giveback: longer day or longer year or both. Mulgrew will settle for some cut rate pay for extra time if his past actions are a preview. I don't understand the UFT Adams endorsement. 

We need a real union!

For more analysis on the debate, go here.

33 comments:

  1. Not voting for either, unless there’s some astronomical pay raises and they add a Masters+45 on the scale.

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  2. James,

    We have been around a while. Every mayoral election, they always say ‘longer day, less summer break’. Bla bla. Bla. This time, if they do what they did in 2014 with that contract, it won’t work.

    My guess is that we get some small bs pay increase that happens on a Friday when the news cycle is slower for the weekend and we move on. Every mayoral candidate does this.

    The worst thing we did was in 2005 was do the extended day. I am not a Mulgrew apologist, but he was not in charge then. Randi was and she sold it big time, so for all the weingarten people with revisionist history who love her, please remember ten 05 contract doomed us

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  3. It's going to be tough to get teachers to all agree on this since many have plans for each summer. It won't be this coming summer but next year is up in question. I think, all teachers who start next fall should have to agree to do the summer in order to get a job. The present teachers should be offered it for higher pay.

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  4. To quote Paulie in Goodfellas "Fuck You. Pay me!"

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  5. When the new mayor sees the cost to "extend" the day or year they may have second thoughts....Its going to cost big time as educators will have to be compensated like wall street gurus

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  6. FUCK ANY EXTRA TIME! I thought the DA has to agree to a contract first and then the whole rank and file get to vote on it. I am correct? (Oh yeah, if either the school day or year goes any longer, this 22 year veteran teacher is leaving)

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  7. Just because it happened b4 doesn't mean it's likely to happen again. The school day was very short b4 2005. Current time is in line with rest of country. Those two days in August killed Randi. I'd say Mulgrew won't go there. Probably posturing on Adams part, too.

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  8. Sure, Curtis Sliwa—supporting a longer school year This is a guy who calls himself a Red Beret Angel. But as a teen, he was expelled from Nazareth High School and then went to Canarsie High School—which was his neighborhood high school -just a few blocks away..Have the feeling he spent an extra 6 weeks in summer school thru mid-August. So with him, a longer school year—no big deal.
    Adams like most of other candidates of the past 30 years that have become mayor—just doesn’t need the support of the UFT as the Mulgrew team didn’t support him during the primaries. Adams might very well be worse than DeBlasio—but not anywhere as bad as Bloomberg when it comes to the UFT
    But it appears the Charters may have a new friend.with Adams. The Eva Moskowitz schools mandated vaccines for all staff as early as the Spring of 2021 in preparation for their full reopening In August.
    When it’s all said and done—perhaps Mayor Adams can offer Sliwa the position of Commissioner of Department of Corrections and place the Guardian Angel with a full time office at Rykers Island. After all, Sliwa did say he was familiar with the facility.

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    1. Sliwa said UFT stands for Union of Failed Teqchers.

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  9. Anything about 3 guns being found in schools yesterday or you don't want us to discuss that?

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  10. Was crime discussed during the debate?

    Wild video shows broad-daylight Bronx shootout near elementary school

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  11. I don't understand the problem with endorsing Adams. He wasn't our choice in the primaries, but he won and now he's running against a guy who would be much worse for us. It makes sense to tell our members that they should vote for Adams rather than risk a Sliwa victory. Staying neutral is a choice, but if we endorse Adams, clearly the better candidate, we can begin with a warm relationship with the new administration. We are not giving up anything, and everyone knows we have major differences with him. But, in a binary race, he's the better guy and on many, if not most issues, we agree with him. Kind of a non issue, if you ask me. And certainly not an issue where you can trash Mulgrew, which seems to be the sole reason for this blog's existence.

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    1. You can't say a candidate (Adams) is an existential threat in the spring and when he is taking advice from our major adversary Bloomberg in the fall, we endorse him. At least we stayed neutral with Cuomo.

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  12. Longer school day leaves no time for per session or student clubs.longer year means no extra summer school pay.if they have the money for this they should give raises.biden said we deserve more yet I hear zero raises.pur contract ends Sept of 22?or am I mistaken?

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  13. Well, the uft has always endorsed the best.

    De Blasio, Stringer turn $8B in NYC pension funds over to AOC, Green New Deal https://trib.al/JlVZFVF

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  14. If students have longer days when do they do sports? Work? Study? Commute?

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  15. Education in the hands of politicians is a corrupt disaster. Nothing good can come out of a system that has politicians, no matter the party, in charge of education. Anything politicians touch becomes as corrupt as the politicians.

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  16. @2:59 durrrrrrrrr. Cops don't want Adams like they dont want Diblasio. How can nobody here see how bad this world has become with inflation, gas prices through roof, shelves empty, crime up, forced mandates.

    BOB PEPITONE FOR MAYOR! CANNOT HAVE A DEMOCRAT HERE TO RUIN THE CITY INTO THE GROUND.

    THEY THINK WE CHARTER SCHOOLS? WE THE PEOPLE NEED TO TAKE THE STAND.

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  17. NY public school education is a run as a criminal enterprise mismanaged by its criminal politicians. It has been criminally mismanaged for at least the last 20 years.

    Furthermore , the Taylor law which restricts teacher freedom to fight against the criminal enterprise is itself a human rights violation according to the UN.

    Sadly, teachers starting education careers are subjected to a future career which entirely is degrading and dehumanizing.

    NY City public schools are criminally mismanaged, period.

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  18. Curious to see what influence Adams will have on the next phase of the Medicare Advantage Plan debacle.

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  19. Perhaps he can get covid under control.

    As of 10/21/21 end of day:

    Vax Pass New York, which has heavy restrictions in place, has reported 17,834 COVID-19 cases this week.

    The Free State of Florida, which has virtually no restrictions in place, has reported 8,376 new cases this week.

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  20. It depends on testing. My school which has over 400 students only tests about 25 a week.

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  21. Hey 1:58, how about we compare deaths yesterday from COVID 19?

    Mask mandate, vaccine mandate NYC:3

    Freedom loving Florida: 465

    I'd rather be here, thank you.

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  22. They should do a study on people who were vaccinated who still got Covid and see if there is a correlation on how long ago they received the last shot and when they got infected.

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  23. Why are there more covid deaths this year with all these vaccinations??

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  24. So many deaths because so many assholes won't take the vaccines.

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  25. So now that the unvaxxed staff are not in the schools, the cases explode.and that is with barely testing.so whose fault is that?unvaxxed kids are in school, yet they terminated unvaxxed teachers.brilliant.staff shortages all over...will Eric Adam's be any smarter then dibozo?

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  26. I choose NEITHER giveback. I wouldn't mind a longer day, for a shorter school week - off every Friday, but that's wishful thinking. If they're going to insist we work every summer than give us the extra 18% that D75 teachers receive.

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    1. I am not being forced to work summer for any amount of money. That would be giving up the greatest perk of this profession, summer’s off. Time for you and your family is priceless. If they do this it should be like they do with APs some positions are 10 month, some are 11 month. You decide which one you apply for.

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    2. The only reason they want a longer day or year is to continue the babysitting service they view us as. It has nothing to do with education.

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