This is from the NYSUT Weekly Update. If 50 is the new 65 on Regents Exams, why require these exams at all? Do teachers get MOSL credit for student grades of 50 and above?
State approves appeals process for Regents exams
In a year fraught with learning disruptions, the Board of Regents this week approved a special appeals process to allow students to graduate with a lower score on Regents exams. The reprieve would apply to students who pass the Regents course and score a 50–64 on a Regents exam in the 2021–22 and 2022–23 school years. Appeals can be filed by a student, parent/guardian, teacher, school counselor or the department chairperson. Here are SED's FAQ, memo and application form.
Add it to the list Evan write previosuly. the sham and scam continues. Anybody who still considers this teaching is a damn fool. But we are helping the minorites left behind, right? This is going to get them a good middle class job, right?
ReplyDeleteNo calendar and it is almost June.
NYC budgeting almost zero raise with 10% inflation.
Students graudating unable to read and write with 20% attendance.
People asking for de blasio back.
Mulgrew won by a landslide.
Dues well spent everybody.
Basically a free regents grade.
This is a common appeals excuse from those that get a Regents score as low as 50%—
ReplyDelete‘Well I think I deserve to pass because at least I got half the exam correct and my teacher gave me a passing grade because I came to class half the time-I think’.
Of course that’s assuming the student understands the connection between 50% and one-half.
Please remember that Regents scores do not currently equate (and have not for many, many years already) to percentages (or even remotely so). For quite a number of years now, for example, obtaining a score of 65 on the Algebra I Regents exam has meant scoring approximately 35% of the points on the exam. So, a score of 50 on any Regents Exam (even the “harder ones”) means that students earned far below 50% of the available points on the exams. Very. Important. Distinction.
DeleteAnd did anyone ever contact the State Inspector General, State Attorney General, or sue NYSED over this deceitful practice which has been going on for years?
DeleteRegents are really not the issue - it’s a progressive lack of expectations and consequences and an indifference that baffles only those who care. This generation is lost and everyone is at fault. Unfunctionally illiterate and unemployable graduates are let loose on society. An upbringing of no consequences either familial, academic or societal ~ disaster awaits society in terms of crime, small and large. It is in part a harbinger of a massive societal breakdown. If you have a car you have to change the oil at minimum. The minimum - teaching right from wrong is ignored as well as the basic skills of reading and writing. Our enemies are watching and waiting.
ReplyDelete@5 pm. And the "gotcha" is that there is at least one so called educator on this blog who believes they will not feel the ramification of their "playing the game" behavior. They are weakening America for a few coins. Ha. They prove the point that a sucker is born every minute.
DeleteNothing new here. A raw score of 32 out of 84–on the Algebra Regents—would equate to a passing score. That means getting a 38% on raw score would give you a passing score. Big joke.
ReplyDeleteYOu can get a 50 on the ELA Regents without writing a single essay. All you have to do is score high on the multiple choice. If 50 gives you credit in your MOSL, teachers will pass more students, so they can get credit for that student. I'd really like to know how Adams is really raising the bar and increasing literacy rates. All this is going to do is increase the graduation rate to 90 percent. All the diploma is is a piece of paper, but Adams will smile and say look what I did.
ReplyDeletewe should recognize that the NYC public schools are day care centers for the majority of the students. Their education has been ruined.
ReplyDeleteA grade of 50 on many Regents can almost be achieved by random guessing on the multiple choice questions. The exam grades are pre-inflated with the scoring charts.
The exams are not useful for determining if a student has learned
any of the course content or skills. This is "No Child Left Behind"
in its most ironic sense.
6:35: And many can't even achieve that.
ReplyDeleteHmm, I’ve heard of this thing called grade inflation but never knew it was this bad. Good thing I was a GED teacher where I taught myself how to handle a classroom and teach. 42 GEDs on 145th in Harlem between 7th and 8th. I deserved a thank you, but ultimately you know what I got. Just be a smuck it’s way easier going!
ReplyDeleteDavid Suker, Google me if you haven’t already heard.
ReplyDeleteDUMBED DOWN STUPIDEST GENERATION EVER COMING. SO PATHETIC THE STANDARDS WE HAVE, SO SAD.
ReplyDeleteGiving more tests does not lead to kids learning more.
ReplyDeleteBut under Clinton, Bush, and Obama there was a surge in testing.
Regents, once taken by a large number of NY State students, became a requirement for EVERY student.
And as soon as the ed reformers saw the results, they moved to tests that were not graded on the familiar 0 - 100 scale, with bizarro "rubrics" instead of logical partial credit.
In mathematics the reformers stripped out content, blended in strange topics.
We ended up today with an algebra regents that is made up of about 50% algebra, graded on a strange scale, where the scores are not particularly meaningful.
I think this post's headline is unintentionally misleading. Scoring 50% on an algebra test - I think most of us would get what that means. But scoring 50%, after scaling, on a weird blend of topics is, well, weird.
And scoring 100% on a weird blend of topics (I teach kids who are near that end) represents, frankly, a weird blend of knowledge. I don't think the 95 is more meaningful than the 65, if the test itself does not make sense.
Are other Regents as lousy as math?
Jonathan
The doe is a joke. If they just said,”we don’t care about education. We are daycare and it’s all a work”. that would be at least honest.
ReplyDeleteI actually believe you can only teach who actually cares. What else can you do?
Yes. We are all playing a game, but I just pay no mind to those who don’t care. What else can you do?
Agreeing with the progressives running nyc education is now “weakening America.” Nah. Just weakening the students in shit progressive cities. The rest of us will be just fine. We’re giving the nyc progressive democrats exactly what they asked for. Students earned passing in the name of equity. You wanted it. You got it. Why are you still whining?
ReplyDelete@741 am. You sound stupid. Whatever happens to inner city students will of course affect suburban students. Give it time dummy. Drugs ruined families first in the inner cities. Folks said lock them up--users and sellers. Knock Knock generations later opioids have destroyed suburban families.
DeleteWhy are charter schools booming because public education in the city sucks. Unless you get to the few elite schools in each borough 85% is absolute fraud. A 65 on a regents still sucks if you have standards, yet, still respectable when you have most students who have 7-8th grade reading levels.
ReplyDeleteAdams thinking of running for pres lol, him and diblasio are too psycho paths. UFC wants change why cant we have republicans with dems in this state because it is crystal clear the dems destroy whatever they touch in this state .
Yea and charters will not have fraud...
DeleteDoes anyone think that charters and vouchers are the future of American education? Has public school lost its way due to the fact that the students are so low learners, not interested in learning, come from backgrounds that devalue education and schools are being blamed for their failures or lack of achievements?
ReplyDeleteSo the people believe that if we switch to charters and vouchers that the students in the inner cities will now prosper better in the charters and vouchers? Is the perception out there that the "bad" schools and " bad" lazy union teachers occupy the public school classrooms and charters with their non union workers will somehow perform the miracle?
If charters took all the students and were not selective like many of the thriving schools are, then I would be impressed, but you can easily get thrown out of a public school if you are not performing or you are a behavior issue.
ReplyDeleteEva Moskowitch sends kids back to the public schools if they have poor attendance or other issues. The original cohort for success charters was something like 95 kids and the final graduating class was like 18 or so. The true graduation rate is really 18 percent but success says other. Eva Moskowitch just received 200 million from Bloomberg and yet the NYCDOE still is paying for the rents for ALL the success schools.
ReplyDeleteWe can all thank the corrupt Cuomo for giving in to the charter people several years ago allowing the charters to squeeze into our NYCDOE buildings and classrooms and if they cannot fit them or squeeze them inside of a NYCDOE building then they are required to pay the rent from another building. Cuomo received quite a bit of $$ for the charter red carpet.
For much of my career I taught HS Math, Social Studies and English and gave regent exams in them. I am unlicensed in all three subjects. The regent scores in my classes were always some of the highest in the school, usually higher that the licensed teachers. I was a licensed business teacher, who never rarely had business classes to teach. I ended up an ATR for 5 years and retired. As an ATR many schools utilized me as an English teacher. The math regents is farcical in many ways that you’ve explained. The Social studies regents basically gives you the answer if you can study the cartoons and have any kind of basic knowledge on the topics presented. The English regents is in reality probably the most difficult of the three. It requires writing, interpreting and background reading and previous knowledge. Just because some of the tests have to some extent been completely watered down (because not enough kids are passing them) does not mean they should be thrown out. There has to be someway to make sure that students have some type of basic knowledge on those topics. Much of what is taught in Math is completely unnecessary, in my opinion. I eventually believe they will stop teaching it after eighth grade. Unless, of course, there are those students that show an aptitude for it academically. They will have to have a separate track for them in high school. But again as I said earlier this really isn’t about Regent’s exams - it boils down to a failure to educate.
ReplyDelete@256 pm. Nicely said. I agree
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