The Council of Supervisors and Administrators had an emergency Executive Board meeting today. No, they did not call for fully remote learning for NYC. No, they did not say they would not show up for work on Tuesday. They did unanimously vote no confidence in Chancellor Carranza and Mayor de Blasio. CSA calls on the State Education Department to enter the school reopening process in NYC.
This is from CSA Facebook:
CSA Calls On Mayor de Blasio and Chancellor Carranza to Seek Intervention from the State Education Department
On September 27, 2020, the Executive Board of the Council of School Supervisors and Administrators, representing over 6,400 New York City’s school leaders, declared a unanimous vote of “No Confidence” for Mayor de Blasio and Chancellor Carranza due to their failure to lead New York City through the safe and successful reopening of schools. CSA calls on Mayor de Blasio to cede mayoral control of the Department of Education for the remainder of this health crisis and for Mayor de Blasio and Chancellor Carranza to seek the immediate intervention of the New York State Education Department.
“School leaders want school buildings reopened and have been tirelessly planning to welcome back students since the end of last school year,” said CSA President Mark Cannizzaro. “They must now look staff, parents, and children in the eye and say that they have done all they can to provide a safe and quality educational experience, but given the limited resources provided them, this is becoming increasingly difficult. During this health crisis, school leaders have lost trust and faith in Mayor de Blasio and Chancellor Carranza to support them in their immense efforts and provide them with the guidance and staffing they need. Quite simply, we believe the City and DOE need help from the State Education Department, and we hope that the mayor soon realizes why this is necessary.”
Reaction on Twitter from NY1's Jillian Jorgensen:
Principals union president Mark Cannizzaro says his members will be at schools Tuesday -- so parents, re-opening is on.
110 comments:
Idea...Taechers should not report. But they will report, because they are dumb and sheep.
UFT leadership failed us. We never should have gotten to October without an actual safe plan. But keep paying dues, on it goes.
Mulgrew...Silent. Wow.
Opt out or decertify. Proof is proof. Don't accept this anymore.
You guys aint too smart. I simply refused to go in. I am now fully remote. No trouble. No medical accommodation. No absences.
This mess cannot possibly be a surprise to anyone; not to principals, teachers, or parents.
The incompetence of the Mayors and the DOE central admins has been overlooked for so long. Anyone involved in education, from principals, teachers, school staff, parents to children are reaping what Bloomberg and DeBlasio have sown.
TWO POINTS: 1) The mayor does not give two shits about the no confidence vote. 2) The UFT looks like a big idiot right about now.
Ya know you looks like a bigger idiot, the people paying dues to the idiots. When you all of you learn?
FYI, infection is surging in Midwood Brooklyn and many other places. Good luck at work this week. Mulgrew will be safe at home.
315 agreed. The idiots are so proud of this deabcle, union proud. Keep paying dues. Uft leadership is laughung at all teachers right now, as they are nice and safe. Which buildings are mulgrew, hinds, amy, sill, leroy, sterling going to be in, sitting in crowded rooms, for 6 hours and 50 minutes...?
Idiots are the people on this blog that think that the Union negotiateswith themselves.
CSA’s vote of no confidence is a political statement. They are upset with the UFT-DOE agreement concerning remote work because they did not wanted all UFT members to report to school unless they have a medical accommodation.
They thought they successfully stopped this when they leaked the UFT’s possible original remote proposal and it appeared on this blog.
Notice there is no CSA strike vote or threat.
UFT remains silent. Expect for janella tweeting about blm. I hope the rank and file is content. Don't forget to come on here and complain about "why does my 10/15 check have $200 in dues taken for no reason?" What a bunch of bozos.
As fool hearty these plans are and the never ending last minute changes that are so confusing and frustrating have to be even more so for the kids we care about. I know I’m speaking for the majority of us when I say we went into this career for the kids we teach. Definitely not for the money or the respect. To that point when we go in it’s not because we’re dumb or because we’re sheep. It’s because we have an enormous responsibility for our children. For the children I agree wholeheartedly that we should be full remote. For safety and because short of full in person, full remote makes more sense pedagogically than this horrible blended hybrid “plan”. Regardless, as we’ve proved, no matter how crazy the plan we step up and make it work to the best of our ability. We will never get credit for it but that’s not why we’re here. Our kids see us everyday not the idiots “in charge”. They may or may not know what we’re facing as we try our best to deliver the best possible instruction that we can in these crazy times but they will know if we just refuse to show up. Think of the harm we will do if they come to school and we’re not there. What will they think of us. I don’t care what the media say or the politicians say but I don’t want my kids thinking I’ve abandoned them when they are in dire need of some familiarity and consistency. If that desire to go in despite all the crap to be there for my kids makes me a sheep then a sheep I am. The saddest part is that the powers that be know that. They know we’ll continue to be the ducks on the pond. Calm and cool on the surface but frantically paddle below the water just to stay afloat. They don’t need to see that. They need calm and reassuring teachers that’ll always be there for them. We can keep protesting and pushing for full remote. We can keep up the pressure but if they open we gotta be there. Not for the DOE. Not for the politicians or the media. For our kids.
@3:20 it seems like some of you are glad that infection rates are going up etc and take joy in the suffering of others- i ask why???
if someone chooses to pay dues-thats their choice.
what if everybody opts out like some people here want
then what?
do you realize how long it would take for a new / better union to be formed, get members and be taken seriously politically?
let those who chose to pay be
but dont take joy in people suffering from a disease with your sarcastic comments
"Good luck at work this week. Mulgrew will be safe at home."
Did the uft say to go in or stay home? That is putting us at risk. Did mulgrew again say things are safe? They are not safe.
3:52 is the problem. You would rather be a martyr for the children than stand up for them and yourself by not going in on Tuesday and just being sick. The principals use that guilt against us. Battered spouse syndrome. Same excuse beaten women give. They stay for the kids.
It isn't safe. Don't go in.
355. It isnt sarcastic. James keeps telling us to stand up. The sheep continue to put themselves at risk as uft hierarchy is safe. Mulgrew keep signoring us. Infections are rising in NY. People should not show up to work and not pay into a corrupt uft.
352 would be ok dying so a kid can show up to the building. Mulgrew is ok if you die too. He makes 300k plus benefits to be ok with you dying.
Except for kids who live in the most dire of circumstances, you will be doing them a huge favor if you weren't there in person on Tuesday. Buildings are unsafe. How many of their older relatives have to die before someone gets the message?
Mulgrew said in an article in the Gothamist that he is confident there will be enough teachers by the time we reopen. Also, I agree, the mayor is going to care less about a no confidence vote. We do the same for principals and still the principals get to keep their jobs.
I'm tired of the criticism of teachers on here. I'd love for the union to take a stronger stand. I would have supported a strike. But the reason people have unions is so they can take collective action . Expecting individual teachers to go rogue during a pandemic, when people have spouses out of work and kids to support,etc., isn't very realistic or fair. I don't want to work in unsafe conditions but I, and many other teachers, can't risk our jobs right now.
3:55, what will it take for those to opt out? Death? ICU? Ventilator? Anybody could've seen this coming. Mulgrew will be at home and safe. Why should I be at risk?
Question...So when is this great uft pres gonna come out and say something about CSA? About unsafe conditions? About member safety? And what is his schedule? Which school will he be at this week and for how many minutes?
Whatever school Carranza and Di Blassio show up at will know in advance and will be one of the schools that is doing exceptionally well and they will put on their little dog and pony show like they always do.
Unknown 414, you wont risk the job but you will risk dying or getting them sick?
How freaking difficult is it for you sheep to fail the daily health screening and take two weeks off from the buildings with pay? No loss to sick bank. Get a telemedicine note.
APO in one school told staff at meeting to make sure they use those ten free days. Just need a little nausea.
436, they are idiots, like I said. Am I the only one without a med acc who hasnt gone in this year?
Stay the f**k home. School buildings are not safe.
If I am going to use one of my 10 Covid days , because I failed the Health screening it certainly is not going to be used for the first day’s of in person instruction. “Failing” the Health screening on the first day of school will accomplish nothing just like pulling dues will not accomplish anything .
4:40 PM: You write like a Russian bot. I give...tell us. How did you get to "refuse" to go in without a med acc, while not resigning?
When teachers call other teachers “idiots” and “sheep,” I automatically just stop listening. There are other ways to have civil discussions. I for one, will be teaching in-person Thursday. Hopefully. A year of remote will be bad. 1/2 the kids don’t even turn their cameras on. These kids will really be almost a year behind in everything. How long do schools remain closed? 1 year? 2? 3? Who’s to say the vaccine will be here soon and also be safe? Schools must open. Many teachers in my school that want to go remote are still going to the beach, out to dinner, out to bday parties, bbqs, etc...hypocrites.
I honestly also think that because the school system is such a mess (out of control schools, crappy and unfair observations, little to no support, long commutes, etc...) that many teachers (not all) are using this as an excuse to avoid the real reason for not wanting to go in.
James, how do you possibly say to pay dues after all this? I got it, a union is better than none. How much beat down could you expect us to take?
Didnt mulgrew say we are ready?
Mark Treyger
I’ve spoken with many principals, mainly from high schools, today. As of now, there remains numerous teacher shortages and insufficient tech for both in-person & remote learning. Schools also dealing with inadequate bandwidth that won’t allow teachers to livestream instruction.
When did mulgrew demand all remote or we wont show? That is why you should leave this pathetic uft.
Why isn’t the UFT having a no confidence vote on deB and Carranza? The CSA does it?! Bloomberg cut the balls off the UFT and gave them to the CSA. Why aren’t teachers having a no confidence vote on Mulgrew. Mulgrew and his crew - Hinds, Sill, Sterling, etc simply aren't capable of standing upright and doing what needs to be done - saying no to deBlasio. Ridiculous, no one should go in, period. Fuck em all.
Duh, my principal gave me permission.
To the handful of people here who say don't pay dues, I wonder if the 3 of you ever had a really job outside of the UFT, not your paper route or your hs supermarket job,,, a real salaried job where you had to actually negotiate your salary, your health benefits, your vacation time with a boss. Most teachers I have spoken to have never had to to do this and have no concept of working in a job with this responsibility. Some teachers would do just fine and others would be fired in a NY minute. We need Ideas on how to put pressure on Mulgrew and end the corrupt Unity chapter. I support paying dues and fighting for a better union. Over 20,000 teachers on a medical accommodation... never would have happened without a union. Paychecks, health insurance, salary steps, pension, 3 months off a year, go outside, leave Mommy's basement, and talk to someone outside your FOX news bubble.
@3:52 pm...where do you teach? You sound like the dedicated educator students NEED. Stay safe. That includes masking up, wiping down, washing hands and be ready to report anything that puts you, the students and your family in danger. You have a cellphone? Record. Take pics. Send Emails. I'm praying for the safety of each of you. Thanks for your post. It made my day!
451, you are an idiot. You dont lose any car days. You stay home for 2 weeks, you dont lose any car days. Get a note that says you have any one of the covid symptoms.
558, ok, play it out, we have repeatedly asked what to do. Nobody seems to answer. If not opting out and showing our lack of content, then what? If you could stomach mulgrew making 300k while he sends you in to die, I think you are a sucker. How much of this will you take?
Back to only 3 people opting out. LOL. If it is 5% of 150K that would be 7,500. And you think laughing at them while you are paying to be made a fool of makes you look smart?
The principals union should have spoken up a long time ago not two days before opening. They were silent for several weeks. The principals always want to pretend everything is going great which is probably what they told their staffs on zoom meetings, so you have to blame the principals for playing along with the charade. They are the ones always bragging about their fallacious graduation rates. At least the Tottenville principal had some balls.
Why? CLs are mostly sycophants.
w4s, they need parayers. They wont walk out, wont stay home, wont stop paying dues, wont decertify, wont do anything. How many emails have they sent and to whom? I'm guessing none. Will continue getting walked on. Same 80% who voted for the 2014 contract and same 90% who voted mulgrew in again. But they are correct, they are honored to pay dues.
@ 4:02 pm
You think 3:52 is the problem? I don't.
558...100 teachers dead wouldnt happen if untiy gave a shit about you. And counting...
Folks are berating @3:52 pm because of their decision. Well I bet you are the same folks who could give a rats droppings about your students. How about that?
All of the sudden people care about students. 9 months ago there were "anonymous" posters "read" the students and their families for filth. Now that the anonymous posters are in the same boat as those students and families, they want to "care". Nah. Keep that same energy you had pre-covid. From March thru June,many anonymous posters and others complained about remote teaching. "The kids aren't participating". What the he!!? 3:52 wants to go in, leave them alone. Im sure you will walk your azz back on Tuesday too.
so opt outers don't have to go in? They are immune to covid? Oh they have extra coins. Don't go in and you won't be at risk. You talk as if you can take a stand for yourself. Im sure you are teaching remotely too (if that's your desire).
I am a dues payer. Not for long. Where the fuck is the uft?
Trying to wrap my brain around how to plan for the week.
Planning remote lessons are time consuming enough but I have students coming into school as well.
Do I plan for remote teaching and then share all the documents? I have no computers. Can I use paper?
HOW DO I TEACH?
If you cant figure out how to get remote without a medical ccommodation, then, well, I'm not surprised you continue to get fooled by mulgrew. On 10/15, please list what they stole from you in dues. Think they will hit you for 200 bucks this time? $ 180?I would love to compare it to my 0.
@530 pm
You're right.
This is how I will compare it. Those who say that they cant understand how someone would vote for Trump...That is how puzzled I am that many of you pay dues and continue to support a fraud and corrupt union.
I hope this opens the eyes of everyone: Empathy for others goes a long way and is very much needed. ALL OF THE TIME.
The sad part is that these comments mean nothing because the sheep will continue showing up and will continue paying dues while they continue getting stomoped on by the doe and uft.
5:30 hit the nail on the head. I went to my in laws on LI for the 3rd time in as many months yesterday. Outerbridge back to Jersey slammed. Belt and SSP packed solid both ways. People in HS already making plans for where to eat & drink on Wednesday for last hurrah before kids come in. The remote people at meetings are in bars/restaurants outside the 5 boroughs, museums, beaches, amusement parks, etc.
To the "pull your dues or you're sheep" individual or group:
Aside from pulling your dues what have you done?
What makes you not a sheep?
Have you stopped going in to your school?
If so, how have you done this and avoided getting disciplinary action?
Are you outside your building protesting?
I seriously want to know, because all I'm reading from your types of posts week after week is that if you pay dues then you're idiots, sheep, etc...
TIA
As we suffer and getabused, just want to express my feelings on teacher choice. I’ve already spent $200 on my remote classroom in my home. My students need to learn and there are tools that I need to help them through the year. I am paying out of pocket. Donors choose does not cover the needs of my unique music classroom.
7% have opted out of the UFT. Confirm it with the UFT or The Chief. It’ll be 20% next June, after this fall’s shit show, guaranteed. And no it’s not a good thing and no it will fuck all of us even more. If you still have youth on your side, it’s time to make some decisive plans and jump ship.
A-I am an opt out
B-I have not attended work
C-Nothing has happened to me
D-I speak the truth about the students
E-I fail more than just about everybody in my school because those are fair grades
F-Yes, my stand is not paying the uft for fraud and corruption and not going into the petri dish w4s always talks about
G-I do take the virus seriously, I certainly am not going to bars, restuarants or the beach
H-Opt outers still must go in unless they either refuse or principal will approve them working from home. Figure it out.
I-My concern is myself. The doe and uft have shown they will lead me to death, so I must defend myself. If you are dumb enough to go in this weak and pay dues, stay safe and sorry about the $1800 you are wasting. Mulgrew, Hinds, Sill, Barr, Amy, Sterling will be safe, you won't.
Any other questions?
I have a question. Opt out or decertify? Still waiting for this mass action James talks about.
6:16: I think you mean pariah. A typo is one thing, but you must be an administrator or someone from the teaching fellows.
Um, the uft didn't even enforce the 50 point safety plan.
Ok, if true, 7% is over 10K people. That is slightly more than 3.
The same 3 here comment over and over again. I recognize the style although we have gotten many new readers since last spring so maybe it is a few more. If it is 7% opting out, that does not help our cause. Clearly, Mulgrew has not reacted by changing in any way after losing all of those duespayers.
I told you I would help anyone who wants to organize a decertification drive to start a new union drive but one person so far has offered to help to organize it. We need a little more assistance.
Maybe 25% would get his attention. That is my point. You just said yourself that nobody is moving to decertify.
25% is over 40,000. How long will that take?
It should happen in June. You accept your wife paying into this shit?
Can't have a say in who chapter leader is if you are not in the union. Get me the activists, I will help you to get a different kind of union.
OMG. Ok. Let me know in 10 years if anythign has changed. I will be long resigned.
Again, what has 100% or 99% or the so called 93% membership gotten us?
The membership numbers are not as important as the activist numbers. I have been saying for years we don't have to keep taking the garbage. Battered teachers may just be ready to stop taking it and rise up. I see hope among many of the young teachers. I really do. Those activists in this horrible time may just come forward and yes I will help them. Better than anonymous commenters who are sometimes very frustrating to have to listen to but I try to let you have your say.
Do the anonymous commenters not speak the truth? If they were liars, you would not have the stream of complaints on here and you wouldn't have had the csa have a no confidence vote and you wouldn't have had the teacher distress we have all over nyc.
@ Steven...
Well good 4 u. Someone i know opted out but is going in this week. I can't figure out if they are dumb. What say you?
Another uft winner...
That’s the official DOE schedule. We’re supposed to be teaching students during “instructional” breakfast and lunch periods. Students have 2 maskless periods a day where they are eating in class during instruction. How is that safe or conducive to learning?
w4s, i think anyone who puts their life on line for the doe and uft after years of torture are foolish. And anyone who pays for a corrupt and fruad uft is foolish.
Teachers would be furloughed too if we didn’t have a union. Any thoughts?
I know, right? 1/2 these people would never survive a private sector job. If someone said “I don’t feel safe,” there a chance the boss would say, “Well then pack up your shit. You’re fired.”
You can use paper. I’m using textbooks. We can as long as we spray stuff down. I refuse to put kids on tech in my room. They’ve been on tech way too long.
How many times have you used the word sheep since June? Get a new word. You seem like a very angry person. Good for you for not going in. Leave the others alone.
Yup. If you’ve been out to dinner, to a friend’s house, to a bbq, etc...but still cry “Full remote!!!” you are a phony. And again, I still believe that many are hiding behind the virus as an excuse to not go back to their out of control schools because some of them must be miserable to work in. But what haven’t we protested THOSE working conditions? Why don’t we don’t we protest Danielson? Or protest the weakened “discipline code?”
10:03 absolutely, what was the union doing creating this "sample" that doesn't appear to follow the contract and puts the teacher in the situation of teaching many classes in a row without even a bathroom break. I get it there's nobody else to cover the class but it still doesn't make it okay.
No confidence in DeBlasio and Carranza? Yet they endorse, enforce, and propagate the stupidity and waste that DeBlasio and Carranza spew. All of a sudden the CSA realizes what the teachers have known for years, that DeBlasio and Carranza are incompetent? Could the CSA really have been that ignorant to the stupidity of DeBlasio and Carranza? I don't think so. I think the CSA has been playing lying and corruption game with the DOE for years and only now are they feeling the brunt of the ridiculousness.
This no confidence vote is more like a lovers quarrel. I cannot take it seriously. In a few months, the CSA will just go back to bed with the DOE.
3:52 - Your post is very sincere and heart felt. The only problem is if the DOE knows that no matter how much protesting , emails , etc. we will still go in for the kids then they will never change a thing. As much as I agree with you about the kids there are times when we can not go in, times in which it is the only way the DOE will listen. This is one of those times.
9:38, Comment all you like anonymously but understand only when UFTers get over their fear, step forward collectively and say, "We're not taking abuse one second longer," will things change. Administrators from certain APs on up through Chancellors thrive on UFTer passivity. Stand up to them. You will feel much better about yourselves and going to work.
Still boggles my mind that there has been no real ager at China for causing this.
They closed airports coming in but was ok allowing planes going out knowing what they knew and the lies they gave the WHO.
Rates of death are so low now, unless you are a shmuck who is over 70 walking around with underlying conditions that chances of anyone dying is .3%. Once the election is over, the politics of this come further into play we will have more normalcy.
Teachers would be furloughed without a union when they need 10k more teachers? Um, no.
7% said No More. 93% said Keep Beating Me.
From the AP on the death rate:
THE FUTURE
The best way to avoid dying from the coronavirus remains to avoid getting it, and experience has shown that the simple measures advocated by public health officials work.
“Prevention is the most important step right now as we’re waiting for a vaccine and we’re improving treatment,” Goodman said.
Wearing a face mask, washing hands, keeping at least 6 feet apart and disinfecting surfaces “clearly are having a positive effect” on curbing spread, Fauci said.
I'm sure all these remote teachers are still attending parties and barbecues and going places. They're a bunch of hypocrites.
Sent to uft leadership
Since it is so safe for staff to enter and stay in buildings...
Please let us know
Which schools you will be in?
For how many minutes?
Will you be taking a crowded train to get to and from a school?
In a crowded classroom?
With students?
With students with no mask?
With students eating?
With or without proper ventilation?
With broken windows?
Will you be eating lunch with staff? Staff has nowhere to eat except for standing in the street
You have abandoned that staff.
James, we already know that some or many have opted out and we know of at least a couple you have refused to go in. They did their part. What about everyone else?
1045, not me, bitch
Wrong. Most are not.
To the opt outers. Let it go. You get to keep your money and not feed the corrupt uft. If so many teachers refuse to stand up for themselves as has been evidenced by Danielson, no discipline, blizzards are beautiful days etc... what makes you think enough will opt out for the uft to care? The readers of this blog have made up their minds. I'm not arguing you don't have a valid point. I agree with you. But what is the point of the same argument over and over? You've been heard. Some agree, some don't.
158, fair point. My issue is that because dues payers outnumber non dues payers, they are making the uft able to walk over all of us.
@7:21 am...
I've been saying this for years.
@unknown
That's not necessary.
Anon2323 you're being too pessimistic. Under 70, you're looking at 0.04% IFR.
I absolutely do not feel bad for principals. They can be very cruel to staff.
@7:56 AM - You are absolutely right!
5:21: I'm with you. They get no sympathy from me. You wanted the job, you get the stress that goes with it. Most principals go into administration for the wrong reasons: 1. It's a way to get more money instead of waiting to reach 20 years as a teacher. 2. It's a way out of the classroom for the most part. 3. No more observations.
YOU GUYS CRACK ME UP! MULGREW HATERS? NO LIVE STREAMING FOR ANY TEACHER ENTIRE YEAR! NO CAMERA. HOW YOU LIKE DEM APPLES?
What the fuck are you talking about 8:46? No live streaming does not mean no cameras. It means you don't have to stream your teaching live from your in person class to kids at home.
@ 9:10 what anon 8:46 is saying is that teachers are not required to live stream. If you read the agreement you cannot even have an SBO on this matter. There's no live streaming. There's no synchronous learning. The camera doesn't matter. Teacher's do not have to ever go live. Do you understand that? Do you know how huge that is?
Read the definition of live streaming in the FAQs from UFT. You can be mandated to be live.
What is the difference between live instruction and live streaming?
Live instruction (or synchronous instruction) for remote teachers can be defined as some live interaction between the teacher and students, each day at a scheduled time, at the discretion of the teacher via platforms like Zoom or Google Meet, etc. Live streaming, on the other hand, refers to a teacher broadcasting in-person instruction in order to share lessons simultaneously with remote students via video. Teachers cannot be mandated to live stream by any supervisor and it cannot be included in any SBO process.
In rare circumstances, remote teachers can be asked to teach remotely to in-person students. While this is not ideal, it may be the only option if, for example, there is only one physics teacher and she or he has a medical accommodation.
If you are an "in person" teacher, you do not have to LIVE STREAM. Period!
Can someone please clarify the last few comments please. Do in person teachers have to go live? Cannot get a straight answer from anyone. I actually believe no one really knows.
In person teachers do not have to teach live and remote students at the same time.
If you are teaching both remote and hybrid, the remote classes need to have live instruction, not the ones on hybrid.
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