Tuesday, May 04, 2021

2021-2022 NYC CALENDAR RELEASED WITH CONTROVERSY OVER DELETION OF COLUMBUS DAY

The NYC Department of Education released the new school calendar today for the 2021-2022 school year. It looks like school will be starting almost a week later because Rosh Hashanah starts on the night of Labor Day so teachers need not report until Thursday, September 9, 2021, and school will not start for the kids until Monday, September 13. Snow days are now asynchronous learning days so forget about them.

This is not the controversial part. One million Italian-Americans in NYC were not consulted about the change from Columbus Day to Indigenous Peoples' Day on the calendar. I am not going to go through the entire historical judgement on Columbus here. That is way beyond the scope of this posting. Let's just say if you judge him in the context of the 15th and 16th centuries, he comes out a bit better than if you use today's standards. (This may come as a shock to some of you, but I never taught from the perspective that just about everything the United States and Western culture have done has been for some nefarious purpose.) On the issue of the DOE calendar, the fact is many Italian Americans are not happy that Columbus Day was eliminated as a holiday. It is still recognized as a New York state official holiday.  

From ABC 7:

There are also two changes in the observed holidays this year. First, the non-attendance day on October 11, 2021, will be in observance of Indigenous Peoples' Day, with Columbus Day removed from the calendar.

That decision was quickly blasted by Republican lawmakers.

City Council members Joe Borelli and Steve Matteo and Congresswoman Nicole Malliotakis issued a joint statement demanding the Department of Education restore the name "Columbus Day" to the holiday, claiming it was removed without any public announcement or fanfare.

Further down:

In response, the DOE updated its calendar to celebrate October 11 as Italian Heritage Day/Indigenous People's Day.

"Italian Heritage Day/Indigenous People's Day will celebrate the contributions and legacies of Italian Americans and recognize that Native people are the first inhabitants of the land that became our country," the DOE said in a statement. "By including these holidays on our calendar we are honoring the past, present, and future contributions of Indigenous communities and Italian Americans."

Maybe that will be enough to appease show respect for my fellow Italian-American brothers and sisters.


We'll have more information when we get it. Thanks to the people who sent the links. Note it is still Indigenous People's Day on this version. 


 

From Mulgrew


Dear __________,


I'm happy to report that the city Department of Education finally released the 2021-22 school calendar today. The holidays next school year make the calendar particularly challenging — especially with Labor Day falling immediately before Rosh Hashanah. But the final calendar still includes the minimum number of days to meet collective bargaining requirements and receive aid from New York State.


Here are some of the highlights:

  • Labor Day falls on Monday, Sept. 6, and schools are closed for Rosh Hashanah on Tuesday, Sept. 7, and Wednesday, Sept. 8. As is customary, all school-based staff will report to work without students for two days, on Thursday and Friday. The first day of classes for students is Monday, Sept. 13.
  • Schools will be closed on Yom Kippur on Thursday, Sept. 16.
  • Schools will be closed on Veterans Day on Thursday, Nov. 11.
  • Schools will be closed on Lunar New Year on Tuesday, Feb. 1.
  • The mid-winter recess will be from Monday, Feb. 21 to Friday, Feb. 25.
  • The spring break, which includes Good Friday and Passover, will be from Friday, April 15, to Friday, April 22.
  • Schools will be closed on Eid al-Fitr on Monday, May 2.
  • Schools will be closed for Juneteenth, a new public school holiday, on Monday, June 20.
  • Parent-teacher conferences will take place only in early November and in March.

See the 2021-22 school year calendar for staff »

This morning, we sent a text message linking to the family version of the 2021-22 school calendar. If you'd like to receive UFT text messages in the future, please use this online sign-up form.

New York City schools must, by state law, have 180 “aidable" days. This year’s calendar is at that minimum because of the late start of classes and the number of school holidays. This situation has produced some unusual features in the 2021-22 school year calendar:

  • The last day for students will be Monday, June 27, but the last day of work for classroom teachers, attendance teachers, school nurses, therapists, lab specialists and paraprofessionals will be Tuesday, June 28, as contractually required. It will be a Chancellor’s Conference Day. June 30 is the last day for all other UFT school-based titles.
  • Snow days, if we have any, will be remote instructional days. Otherwise, the DOE would have to convert another scheduled holiday to an instructional day to make up the day to meet the 180-day minimum.
  • Election Day will be a professional development day. Students will have a remote learning day with no synchronous or live instruction. All schools will receive funding to pay per-session to teachers to plan that day’s asynchronous instruction.

I hope this information is helpful as you plan ahead. Thank you for everything you do.


Sincerely,

Michael Mulgrew's Signature

Michael Mulgrew
UFT President


Staff version





122 comments:

Bronx ATR said...

Columbus sailed for Spain. (I have never understood the Italian fixation on him. There are so many others that could be honored for Italian heritage that deserve it.) Columbus‘ ancestors live there today. During the 500th anniversary of his landing in the New World his 10th (?) grandson apologized for his grandfather, rightfully. No matter what way you read his actions, they were despicable. Saying so shouldn’t equate anyone as being anti-Italian or anti-White or anti-European. I’ve been saying Columbus should not be honored since 1975, when I was 13 years old and I was ridiculed by my teachers and my classmates for it. This is the right move and most of my Italian friends hopefully know it. I’m sure Andrew Cuomo will eventually try to change the day in honor of his father or himself.

Anonymous said...

Don't forget normally teachers leave with students, we have a day later this year. Not complaining, just different. I will complain about spring break pay though.

nerd said...

Mulgrew just sent out his mass email explaining the calendar.

Anonymous said...

It is disappointing that Columbus Day was renamed on the calendar. Columbus and his achievements has been taken out of context and not put in the perspective of the 1400's. We need to speak up against this.

Anonymous said...

The calendar is now politically correct.
Now , Columbus Day was cancelled.
Juneteenth day observance was added.

Not will to die yet said...

Are negotiations taking place for the ERI ?
That’s my concern.

Anonymous said...

One silver lining is that it will be easier to call remote days instead of snow days especially those of us who have to drive to school and then go to school and combine classes or cover classes or teach 2 kids in class that come to school. I guess the kids in school now will be the last ones to remember snow days. They will eventually tell their kids about them.

Bennett Fischer said...

Columbus day wasn't cancelled, it was just re-branded. And we got Juneteenth, so what's the problem?

Anonymous said...

Be sure to print out Meisha Porter's appreciation letter and put it in your teaching portfolios. Did anyone bother to click on the link to her thank you video?

Anon2323 said...

Cannot complain about the sept 13th start for students, Westchester starts September 1st even though we gave away 1.25% to have school after labor day.

1492 was an interesting year, to say the least, Colombus discovered America. Also, King Ferdinand in Spain had the Jewish expulsion of 300,000 unless they converted.

Columbus day least of our worries, truthfully the Vikings founded this country well before Columbus.

Stunning Obama was in office for 8 years and could not pull off Juneteenth.

Anonymous said...

I'm sorry, no negotiating, arbitration isn't open yet.

Anonymous said...

Yes, that's what I was wondering too. Seems like there's a lull on the ERI. DOE has until 5/31 to release information if approved by Mayor and Council. It may be a long month. At least its spring.

Anonymous said...

I shall still call it Columbus day.

If people really care, they can read and study Columbus from several points of view, then have a basis for their opinions. I know, this is rare these days.

My Greek Orthodox friend believes NYC schools should be closed for Greek Orthodox holidays. I agree.

In the name of equity, every race, ethnicity, religion, culture, gender orientation, SEC, chosen life-style, etc. should be honored by closing the schools for whatever holidays and/or celebrations they desire.

NYC is a mess.

Anonymous said...

We’ve replaced how to think with what to think but hey Columbus Day name change will save city kids from learning about him, the good and bad. Who cares if we turn city kids into being illiterate group thinkers. We got Columbus cancelled and Juneteenth recognized and that’s all that matters. Meanwhile in communist China they’re teaching their kids math and science. Democrat education! Woohoo! So glad my kids got a real education outside of a democrat city. Leftists should be glad too. My kids’ taxes will help pay for your welfare freeloaders.

Anonymous said...

For all the woke folks who want to cancel Columbus day...if you think it is not appropriate to recognize when Columbus came here,why eval celebrate Thanksgiving?that celebrates time here and considering how we did the native peoples dirty, it seems obscene too. Columbus was a European and now we too are benefitting from his expedition.if you hate that why dont you just leave America since coming here was so :bad"at least be consistent.
Our country as well as the world has a dirty history but we can only try to do better.why is he such a bad dude?
As far as the calendar, there is no Diwali or cinco de mayo.every group has holidays.we would have no vacation if we did them all...now we go till june 28 and have to come in june when there are no kids for some mindless waste of money pd.are you guys happy about this??
After a point the woke left is ridiculous.now eat your wordswith a lousy calendar.and the rest if normal society is off Columbus day...

Anonymous said...

And including juneteenth.i am NOT A RACIST at all.it is just that many of these days can be celebrated and recognized while working, unlike religious days.colombus day has a long tradition.

Anonymous said...

Maybe that will be enough to appease my fellow Italian-American brothers and sisters.??

Appease-pacify or placate (someone) by acceding to their demands.
relieve or satisfy

Fuck you James!

APPREASING ITALIAN AMERICANS IS NOT HONORING THEM. There are many Italian who deserve to be honored. THIS WOULD BE THE REASON TO RENAME COLUMBUS DAY ITALIAN HERITAGE DAY NOT JUST TO APPEASE US!

WE HAVE A RIGHT TO BE HAVE OUR ANCESTORS HONORED-I DAY OF THE YEAR!

SHOW SOME RESPECT FOR ITALIANS. WE DON'T NEED TO BE APPEASED WE NEED TO BE RESPECTED AND YOU CLEARLY DON'T UNDERSTAND.

EVERY OTHER GROUP IS GIVEN DAYS, MONTHS TO BE HONORED TO REMOVE OUR HERITAGE DAY AND TO "APPEASE US IS INSULTING"

DON'T COVER A TOPIC IS YOU CAN'T SHOW RESPECT FOR ITALIAN AMERICAN PEOPLE.

James Eterno said...

I am Italian-American. Calling it Italian Heritage was to appease us for taking Columbus out in my opinion. I don't see the insult but what word would you prefer?

Anonymous said...

HONOR AND RESPECT

Anonymous said...

James-You may be of Italian American heritage but from your comments you clearly don't value it or have a strong connection.

Tell me James did you or would you ever write or say-

"Maybe that will be enough to appease -----people or ----- people if
Juneteeth or Chinese New Year are listed on the school calendar.

Would you be this disrespectful to these other groups?

WE ALL DESERVE RESPECT-

CLEARLY SOME HOW YOU THINK BECAUSE YOU HAVE ITALIAN BLOOD IN YOU IT IS OK TO INSULT ITALIAN AMERICANS BY SAYING WE NEED TO BE APPEASED-hence placated or pacified.

Yes, it is your choice if you don't value or respect your heritage. But being of a certain hertiage does NOT GIVE YOU FREE REIGN TO DISREPECT THE REST OF US WHO DO!

waitingforsupport said...

Everyone wants to be respected.

Anonymous said...

How about Giovanni Verrazano Day—at least he came to this region. Also, does this mean they will rename Columbus Circle too?

James Eterno said...

I respect my Italian American heritage. Lots to be proud of.

The DOE changed Columbus Day, not me, to Indigenous People's Day.

When they got a backlash from mostly Italian American politicians, they tried to back-peddle. Did they do that to respect us or appease us? That is the context.

Anonymous said...

"Maybe that will be enough to appease my FELLOW Italian-American brothers and sisters."

These are YOUR words NOT the DOE's.

I am very aware of what the Doe said. I am addressing your specific comment.

Anonymous said...

I’m glad the September and May parent teacher conferences are done.

To elementary staff, don’t do an open house when the principals bully you.

Also, a PD day after the last day of school? I can already tell I will have an ‘emergency’ that day. Lol

James Eterno said...

I think the concept of a holiday with a day off to honor two specific groups, Indigenous Peoples and Italian Americans, is questionable.

What about a day off to honor Chinese - Americans? How about the Albanians, Germans, Irish, Caribbean-Americans, etc.?

Columbus sailed for Spain. How about Spanish heritage? There wasn't even an Italy in 1492.

This traditional holiday is bigger than Columbus the individual and changing it needs to be thought out.

By the way this is a brand new insult. First time I have been attacked for not respecting my Italian heritage.

waitingforsupport said...

@8:57..do you think All Italians think alike? Are you upset about the word "appease" or that James' opinion on the matter is different from your own? Just curious.

Anonymous said...

Tough crowd

James Eterno said...

For the last time, The DOE, not me,, was trying to appease us. Let's move on, please.

TJL said...

The bigger issue is being forced to provide "asynchronous instruction" on top of the Election Day PD, and the continuation & legitimation of remote work on what would have been snow days. When are you supposed to clear the sidewalks and dig out your car so you can go to work the next day?

Anonymous said...

The first question many teachers used to ask about the calendar.—When do the Jewish holidays fall out?. If they fell out on a weekend , would they say—‘ Man that sucks!— This year they fall out on the Tuesday and Wednesday after Labor Day and on a weekday during the first full week on school. So it sort of semi-sucks.

Anonymous said...

In 100 years there will be so many holidays to celebrate different cultures, there won't be any school days left.

Anonymous said...

If a snow/hurricane emergency is declared by the Mayor or Governor—and every New Yorker was told to stay home—except for emergency/essential workers—does that mean every city worker would have to work remotely—the courts, libraries, other city agencies, etc?
Guess the only way to get a snow day—would be if there was a total power outage.


Anonymous said...

James-You not the DOE stated this.

Maybe that will be enough to appease my fellow Italian-American brothers and sisters.

If you want to move on stop commenting on it.

Waiting for support-Would you prefer to be appeased or respected?

James-
I was not looking for an unnecessary history lesson on Columbus, we all know there are many, many Italians who made contributions. I was seeking the respect that Italian Americans as well as all Americans deserve. The word Appeased is insulting.

Comment should state that Italian Americans are still be respected and honored as they should be NOT APPEASED. Clearly James you are more concerned about deflecting rather than owning up to the disrespectful comment you made, yes you not the DOE.

First time? Ok so- point is you were disrespectful and that is not ok.

Anonymous said...

Columbus Circle to be renamed Heritage Circle. Yes indeed.

Anonymous said...

I think the commenter was clear. “Appease” was condescending and insulting because you wouldn’t say I hope all the American blacks are appeased by Juneteenth. Just like when Bloomberg insulted the Irish by calling them drunks on St Patrick’s Day. Again no one on the left would have accepted Bloomberg denigrating nonwhite people during their parades. The left are the biggest racists in the country. You outperform the KKK with your racist bullshit. I come from European immigrants but identify as American. I don’t need a hyphen. I don’t give a fuck who insults my ethnicity or skin color as long as the nyc lefty fools keep paying me to ruin any shot at lefty indoctrinated nyc kids being employment competition for kids in my neck of the woods where math and science is pushed and no one thinks skin color or where your grandparents were born matters. While my home school district has kindergarten kids doing activities that build coding and engineering skills, nyc is consumed with teaching kindergarteners all about how oppressed they are and how bad their white teachers are or how wonderful it is to have a trans mommy or daddy. I’m happy to oblige the dumbing down of kids raised by crazy leftists. Thanks for the opportunity NYC DOE.

Anonymous said...

I agree, the calendar is different but fine. I also will continue complaining about 2020 Spring Break Pay until we are paid what we are due!!!

Anonymous said...

Will June 19th-Juneteenth also be considered a NYS holiday? That date is usually part of the NYS Regents exam schedule.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, can we get back to when spring break pay is going to be negotiated? Its 14 months...

Anonymous said...

Columbus abused women and killed some native people on the islands he visited. Do we really need to celebrate him. How about celebrating people that actually made good contributions.

Anonymous said...

we have ten and a half weeks off for the summer and more days off this year. What is there to complain about. So you have to work for a snow day. Post some lessons online with videos and your off the rest of the day. And if anyone asks why you were not at any meeting well the internet crapped out. Stop crying.Now we are crying about snow removal. Are u kidding me. Most people dont start removing snow until the end of the day. And if anyone needs to ask why Columbus is bad you need to read your history. You cant and shouldnt dismiss history but where does it say we need to honor bad people.

Anonymous said...

It’s not about Columbus. It’s about the left racist control freaks who want to tear everything down. Fuck them. Fuck everything they stand for, if they wanted a dog park with my own personalized bench I’d say no. Better dead than red.

Anonymous said...

This year, nys is recognizing June 18th as juneteenth day as June 19th falls on a Saturday. However the city will only recognize juneteenth when it falls on a Sunday - Friday. So while not recognizing it this year. They will next year.

waitingforsupport said...

10:51am. Is an example of why the "crazy leftists" still have a platform.

waitingforsupport said...

@10:51 am gloats about sticking it to the "crazed leftists" by harming children. You won't stand up for yourself so you "oblige the dumbing down of kids". Monster.

Anonymous said...

People don't do well with change...... Ever......

Bronx ATR said...

I have to agree with James on everything, but the word appease. I believe all groups want respect. We have a long American history of denigrating every race and ethnic group other than the WASPS - who instituted most of those stereotypes. There are many ethnic groups who are not honored and should be. Being of Irish heritage I’ve always found St. Patrick’s Day to be a specially offensive, as it is not a religious holiday or secular holiday - it’s a drunken farce. Not all of us binge drink or are Roman Catholic. (Saint Patrick’s body is in an Anglican Church and Ireland was for most of its history 60% Anglican.) The day is a pseudo-holiday at best and at worse a day in which many part or even full Irish- American people, who have forgotten their culture and history, have latched onto a negative stereotype, (as have those who try to honor them). (I was especially surprised when Bloomberg said what he did, as his equestrian daughter was living in Ireland with her Irish fiancé at the time. He banned smoking here after visiting Ireland and seeing that they had done so in their are bars and restaurants.) When we honor people’s ancestry we should do so as a whole, not through one flawed or insularly affiliated individual such as Columbus or St. Patrick.

Anonymous said...

I think we should compromise and chillax.

1) Change Columbus Day to (Mario) Cuomo Day.
2) Then we have taken the word "bus" out of the holiday's name.
3) Consequently, we won't have to be concerned with busing our students on Cuomo Day
4) The Cuomo Bros (Andrew and Chris ) need our support now with all the bad publicity they
have been receiving.
5) Mario Cuomo becomes a saint. The Roman Catholic Church should beatify and canonize Mario Cuomo.

Now , chillax bros!

Anonymous said...

We celebrate george floyd, right?

Anonymous said...

COMMENTS ARE MODERATED-CONTROLLED.

So if you don't share a viewpoint-it's bye bye to your post OR it's delayed in being posted.

Anonymous said...

1137 its literally about Columbus though

Anonymous said...

Omg.... That's how this work?

Michael Gatton said...

James- you are too patient and too kind.

James Eterno said...

"I think the commenter was clear. “Appease” was condescending and insulting because you wouldn’t say I hope all the American blacks are appeased by Juneteenth."

10:51, I can easily make the argument that making June 19th a holiday was a way to appease Black Americans after the George Floyd protests. It is much easier for the powers that be to do that than to make corporations pay their fair share in taxes or stop corporate welfare so that everyone in this country can possibly have decent healthcare. How many tens of millions are under-insured? But let's talk about changing the name of a holiday and argue about Columbus Day. I personally think the culture wars are used intentionally to keep us regular folks divided. Saying we are honoring Italian Americans by changing the name of Columbus Day to Italian heritage or whatever doesn't show us respect. It's placating us. Then, wasting our time arguing over it here compounds the problem.

I printed the comments cursing me out and all of the personal insults. Now you are on me for not doing it fast enough 12:49. Please, enough already.

waitingforsupport said...

Bronx ATR (12;17pm) writes "all groups want respect". Precisely. Instead of working class people rising up, speaking out, sticking together and respecting everyone--many choose to judge, isolate, hate and disrespect others. Black Italian Irish Jewish Asian Hispanic Catholic Baptist Christian gay straight all want respect. Then you have a numbskull asking about respecting George Floyd or giving children the shaft in order to "get even" with liberals. People have misplaced anger.

waitingforsupport said...

Exactly

Anonymous said...

For the love of it all! I can't believe you all are arguing over this. There are so many more important things we should be thinking about right now. Most importantly, is what school is going to look like next year in regard to spacing, scheduling, testing, etc.

Anonymous said...

Now that the 2021-22 calendar has been made public, Several important questions have to be asked—what happens to those parents that don’t want their children to return in September —if they desire remote with the ongoing uncertainty—along with teachers that feel the same way. Will they return to class sizes of 30 plus? The crowded lunchrooms or auditoriums—masks for all students? Etc.
In addition, will all students be vaccinated by September—assuming parents are okay with that?. There was a recent report that Covid infections with youngsters under 16 have been on a steady incline. Moderna indicated that safe vaccines are ready for those 12 to 16 years of age—and go be ready to go by the middle of May. And when will vaccines be available for the under 12 crowd?

Anonymous said...

3:38, What’s important to you is not what’s important for the next person, or vice versa. I can’t think of anything more important than holidays. They take precedence over everything else in education, other than vacations. Just joking, maybe.

Prehistoric pedagogue said...

For the love of Columbus, please appease me and stop writing “back peddle”. It’s pedal

Anonymous said...

A student made his debut today. No, not his debut this term, first day this whole year. I guess he can still pass.

Anonymous said...

We should probably drop the Jrwish holidays. When I started teaching most of my colleagues were Jews. Nowadays, barely a mitzvah. Maybe do Holocaust remembrance day instead. Put it in March, or May.

Anonymous said...

1. Maybe june 28 can be remote pd day.log in from your early weekend destination.Absurd to gave this dsy.2.grateful to stat safely at home on a snow day and log in and work.no contest.the kids will enjoy the snow in the park anyway.but with GLobal warming and climate change???
3.Too much fighting.yes we are a melting pot.why dont we have a day of unity and brotherhood to come together?4.soon we will celebrate illegal immigrants day...
Peace.we need to focus on important issues a mb d not pretty stuff.they could have included Columbus in the naming of the day by lengthening the name. Idk why june28.btw I agree that juneteenth might be an appeasement.or maybe not.lets just celebrate each other.i guess I am what my former students called me.a fuckin hippie..even though I am too young.

Anonymous said...

James,

I thank you for the blog and I appreciate your patience.

The education system in NYC has been broken for about 20 years. Anyone who attended a NYC public schools and is currently their 20's - mid 30's is a product of this broken system.

Read the story about "Boiling a Frog." This is happening now, and not only do some of you not realize it, but you think it is a good thing that you are being cooked in tepid water!

Will you be troubled when Mother's Day is eliminated because it is gender specific, MLK Day is eliminated or replaced with BLM day? July 4th becomes Apology to the British day?

I have absolutely no clue how anyone thinks all of this craziness--"wokeism" going on in the DOE, NYC and the rest of the US is progress. You drink the poison like it is Kool-Aid.

Anonymous said...

My anger is not misplaced. I despise all in favor of focusing on skin color and pronouns and other irrelevant attributes. I despise those who call riots mostly peaceful protests. I despise those who are so racist that they conjure up white supremacy to explain violent attacks against Asians even though the perpetrators are not white. I despise racists including those posing as anti racists. I despise those who enable all these things with excuses or silence. My anger is right where it belongs.

Anonymous said...

I dont celebrate Columbus nor George Floyd. Both were bad dudes.

Anon2323 said...

@7:36 you are way out of line and watch it!!! If you even are a teacher, Holocaust Remembrance day is End of January moron. It was not long ago 6 million jews and 7 million gypsies, gays and more were killed. The jewish holidays are observing new year and most religious day of year, stay quiet 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬.

James is posting comments about people saying FU to him, he has banned my posts too. Not going to disrespect him like that.

No offense to Columbus whose accomplishment is amazing and deserves respect. Leif Eriksson got here way before Colombus. where is Vikimgs day 😂.

The dems have turned this country so segregated especially this cancel culture crap!!! The left media is a propaganda machine so detrimental to the sheep with no critical thinking abilities. LOok at the BS ME too movement only about me (dems) great movement.

James Eterno said...

Anon 2323, I generally post your opinions but just ask you to cite sources so we can read them and respond.

Anonymous said...

Agree with Anon2323. Dems are now proponents of segregation and antisemitism. AFT president Weingarten herself has accused Jews of privilege. Antisemitism is a major component of the left’s agenda. Old school NY liberal Jews are as much of a target for the left as anyone else. Any Jewish liberal who doesn’t see this has their head buried in the sand. Big tech bans Trump but not Holocaust deniers and the Ayatollah who wants every Jew dead.....and the democrats are on board with all of it.

Anonymous said...

Holocaust Remembrance Day is in April, sometimes May, in Israel. There may be other days in different localities. But not knowing the date doesn't make me a moron. As far as your warning to "watch out" I guess you mean you'll cancel me.. and I'll bet you condemn cancel culture. Here's a question for you. If there were only a handful of Jews in the system, would you still advocate 3 days off rather than a single day of respect?

Anonymous said...

Vast majority of Dems are opposed to wokeness. Most blacks condemn defunding police. It's the lunatic fringe. Problem is, while the left wing fringe is 10% of Dems, 80% of Republicans support lunacy of the right.

waitingforsupport said...

@10:45am What would you say is the opposite of "wokeness"?
As a black person I certainly am against defunding the police. I am also against police officers who abuse their position and in turn make life harder for the majority of officers who are hard-working, honest and doing the right thing. So how do we move forward.

waitingforsupport said...

Dems and republicans are proponents of segregation. Deniers of other people's pain and experiences are a danger. Anon2323 has marginalized blacks in the past. Just saying. What's good for the goose... If you want empathy--show empathy.

waitingforsupport said...

@7 am...jan 6 was an attack against the USA so i agree with you that it wasn't a peaceful protest. Silence is almost as bad as the act. Almost. I use to wonder why many educators decided to give up their professionalism as a group until March 2020. So many educators walked into a cesspool without considering their own well-being. Why? Because the principal/DOE/Mayor demanded so. That's when I realized thst too many people prefer silence for what they perceive as self preservation. Is this what is meant as The Boiling frog premise?

waitingforsupport said...

@7am... says the perpetrators are not white. You're wrong. There are ignorant, mentally ill, racist people of all nationalities attacking our Asian brothers and sisters. Come on now. Let's not make this about "who is attacking Asians more".

Anon2323 said...

@moron the way you popped off about dropping Jewish holidays and "maybe" have a holocaust remembrance.
"Watch it" means stop talking and if you said that to my face I would show you.


@Waiting your faulty perception of me is your lens. Dems are the party of KKK and segregation so they lead the way on it!!

If marginalizing means I thought Obama was terrible for this country and the world and why do we have a whole black history month which even Morgan freeman is opposed to then marginalize away. Do not want or need your empathy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=fcLj2CVC1VU

Anonymous said...

Waiting for Support. We don’t move forward. We fight. May the best men and women win that fight. I don’t want unity with the left. I want them gone. Had you just focused on healthcare and reasonable police reform, I’d have joined you. Too late for compromise now. Now the left and the right duke it out and we see who’s left standing. The racist, anti free speech left are not people I will build a bridge with. Still waiting for 10:45’s 90% non fringe left to acknowledge riots, all racism and censorship and admit that the cop who shot Ms, Bryant saved another girl from death or serious injury by doing so... and call out LeBron for putting a target on that cop while you’re at it. Until then they’re no better than 10:45s 10%. Silence is violence is what y’all say, right?
10:45. Since we’re just pulling stats out of our ass. You are 100% wrong. 100% of the time.

Anonymous said...

Opposite of wokeness is not eliminating higher end math just because some can't do it. Bail reform letting felons run the streets. Attacks on Asians being ignored. Reparations. Rioting. Looting. Disturbing innocent people who are eating at a restaurant.

Anonymous said...

And speaking of holidays—although it’s not a school holiday (except for the one school year before the 2005 contract—when teachers reported at the end of August as part of some stupid giveback in exchange for the mid-winter recess)
-Labor Day has always been the first Monday in September—and it gets little recognition—as it was actually hijacked by the Jerry Lewis Telethon from the 70’s to early 2000’s—and a big shopping sales day at Macy’s.
I believe the UFT and other city unions now march on a Saturday close to Labor Day—with not much fanfare—except for the UFT big shots that are accompanied by the politicians that want the labor vote— but screw labor unions just the same. Just wondering if there are any other Labor Day Parades in any other region of the country.
If you stopped a youngster at random—and asked what does Labor Day mean—most will probably say—
‘End of summer vacation and back to school’—or as my wise-guy nephew once said —‘It’s the busiest day of the year for obstetricians’.

Anonymous said...

Not what I said waiting support. I said racists conjure up white supremacy even though perpetrators are not white. Not the same as whites never attack Asians. Statistically Asians are the only race more likely to be victimized by blacks than any other race. Other races are more likely to be victimized by their own race. These are facts (previously linked these stats, James and Waiting responded with fbi stats can’t be trusted). You can’t let a big lie such as white supremacy is responsible for Asian attacks just hang in the air and not expect someone to use statistics to prove you wrong so I don’t want to hear any bullshit over me bringing in black crime stats against Asians. But my point was about racists conjuring up white supremacy, specifically in discussing cases where the perpetrator was not white. That’s how racist they are. They are blaming all white people for some nonwhite people attacking Asians. But I think you knew that and chose to deflect. You chose to not call out this racism. You also chose to focus on January 6th instead of every single night over summer 2020 or what’s still going on in Portland and Minneapolis. Also, I don’t recall Anon2323 ever marginalizing any race. I reject your characterization of him.

Anonymous said...

With all due respect, the large , large, large majority of attacks on Asians are by black males.

waitingforsupport said...

@1:24 pm... just as i thought. You need a lesson on the definition. I'm not interested in teaching you.

waitingforsupport said...

Anon2323...well then if Morgan freeman is opposed to it then there ya go. He speaks for us black folks. And you don't want my empathy I will keep it. You certainly sound like you want something by the stats you mentioned about the holocaust. You even seem threatening to others on the blog. Puh-lese. It's easy to be tough when typing.

Anonymous said...

Woke includes. Normalizing teenage knife fights as no big deal ala Joy Reid. Qualifying Tim Scott’s experiences with racism as not meaningful enough for him to voice his opinion on racism, ala Joy Bahar. Woke means lessening the credibility of all true victims by seeing “me too” and racism everywhere. The sins of your ancestors against my ancestors means you owe me something is a result of woke thinking.

waitingforsupport said...

Nope @5:19 pm...you're ignorant.

waitingforsupport said...

@3:43 pm...and continue. Let me help you out
Our Asian brothers and sisters are being attacked by sick mean heartless people who happen to be white Hispanic black,etc. All law abiding white Hispanic black etc people should speak up if and when we see Asians whites blacks Hispanics gay straight etc being attacked.

Anonymous said...

343. data/source for this regarding the year 2020?

Anonymous said...

519 literally none of that

Anonymous said...

True Waiting but the point is THE MAJORITY of attacks on Asian people have been done by people of color.
Sad because Asian people work very hard, value education and excel in school even the only here only a short time work hard and excel. Perhaps this is why they are attacked certainly by the mayor and previous chancellor-they couldn't seem to understand or accept that Asian immigrants got into top high schools in NYC because they earned it.

So the mayor and chancellor had to come up with another method of selection to top schools.

So the end result is going to be dumbing down of the tests or teachers being forced to fake grades.

Anonymous said...

I propose another holiday to remember John Lennon.remember the song Imagine? Tgif tomorrow

Anonymous said...

The mostly nonwhites attacking Asians may be mean and heartless and mentally ill but the Asians are being singled out because the attackers are racists. Asians are being attacked because they’re Asian. But the left doesn’t care about any racism unless the perp is white. The new leftism is racism.

Anonymous said...

Really? You have that data from across the u.s?

Anonymous said...

I still prefer to think of June 19th as a special day when the Jim Bunning of the Phillies pitched a Fathers Day perfect game against the NY Mets at Shea Stadium in 1964.

waitingforsupport said...

@8:38pm...So YOUR point is about the vast MAJORITY? So you're just going to whitewash over the race of other attackers? Gotcha. Go tell the family members of those victims who were slaughtered in Atlanta. You need to do more research.

waitingforsupport said...

@8:38 pm. The mayor, former chancellor and Trump and Proud Boys and this country have done a great disservice to Asians. Actually Asian admission to Specialized schools is amazing. They've surpassed ALL races--including white. However once again you view it through your own little lens. What do you think will happen when so called teachers issue "fake grades" and a system "dumbs down tests" for inner city schools? Do you think the students are being given the shaft? Of course not. You are doing whatever "liberals" want you to do just as long as the "liberals" leave you alone. Hah. How's that working out for you? March 2020. Work during Easter/Passover. 12 years wait for your raise. Being forced to give fake grades. Puh-lese. You are being used abused and controlled by the same system that you think is wonderful. I love the Boiling frog anaolgy. Gooe luck to you.

Anonymous said...

8:18. Yes. Data is collected. Look at the stats yourself. Bureau of Justice Statistics or bjs.gov. Painting blacks as violent offenders against Asians is not the point but how do you refute the big lie of white supremacy being responsible for Asian hate crimes without pointing out that the data clearly shows that blacks more often than whites attack Asians? I’m not backing down on this as long as the racist left keeps trying to pin Asian hate crimes on white supremacy. It’s a lie. The data proves it’s a lie. Again, exposing nonsense about white supremacy is the point... hyping black criminals is not the point in my using these statistics. Frankly if someone stabs me or bashes me with a hammer I really don’t care if it’s because of my race and I also don’t care what race the offender is. I was attacked by a pos is all I’d be thinking.

Anonymous said...

FYI. 1:24 not same person as 10:45. I'm 10:45 and I agree with you. Big question, how to move forward.

Anonymous said...

The comments section is a cesspool. James, can you just put an open forum or something where off topic discussions such as not paying dues and who's more racist? can be held. I just want to know about the calendar.

waitingforsupport said...

@9:22 am... Painting blacks as violent offenders is precisely your point. WHY are you not talking about the race of ALL perpetrators against Asians? You come across as passive aggressive. The country is a mess.
Bottom line: Asians are human beings. People are quite comfortable attacking them. Trump helped fan the flame. Any person who victimizes another should be held accountable. Periodt

waitingforsupport said...

@8:55 am...
Who's jim bumming?

James Eterno said...

You might be onto something,
10:08. I opened the door by mentioning the Columbus Day controversy in the calendar and some just went off from there.

Some of the more provacative comments have been a problem for a long while. We have tried to be fair to everyone but sometimes we can't please anyone.

Jim Bunning was a baseball pitcher.

Anonymous said...

Because most of the attacks are by blacks.

Anonymous said...

The ones attacking Asians are the same ones with the highest unemployment are the same ones with the least education are the same ones filling the jails. You don't see that?

Anonymous said...

922. University of Michigan research showing 90% of reported hate crimes against Asian Americans in the year 2020 were committed by White Americans. As you suggested, look it up for yourself.

Anonymous said...

Waiting-

"Actually Asian admission to Specialized schools is amazing. They've surpassed ALL races--including white."

100% Correct! They work hard, are respectful and value education.

They outscore everyone! THEY DESERVE TO BE IN THOSE SCHOOLS!

It should be be ability, work ethic, drive to succeed.

Point was that mayor and chancellor were bias against Asians.

Anonymous said...

Many, many Asian's do not report attacks. Asians from other countries go back and share who has harmed them and who they are afraid of. Deny all you want. I could pull up research also.
Believe what you want, deny the truth.

11:39-90% of attacks on Asians in NYC are by people of color. Look up the stats on that.

Never said Asian hate crimes weren't committed by all races. In NYC the majority is being committed by people of color. AGAIN NO NOT ALL-BUT MOST ARE.

Anonymous said...

Ya know how we know who attacks Asians the most? Cnn and msnbc stopped taking about the always happening assaults.

Erin said...

I don't know how anyone can argue education numbers, crime numbers, single parent household numbers, income numbers...

waitingforsupport said...

@ 11:15 am, 11:25 am anonymous... This is the last post I will make on this topic. So enjoy and you're welcome:
People like you write US history books. Lol. You leave out white behavior towards asians, blacks and others throughout history. White good. Others not so much. Why don't you talk about how mediocracy has made this country lag behind China? A country with white leadership for over 200 years is beaten by China. If anyone who should brag, it wouldn't be white America. I mean blacks have been running this race with a one leg tied and are still keeping up and surpassing whites. Can you talk about how Anerica was founded? Whatever happened to indentured servants? Where are their descendants? I guess some blacks have embraced the horrific characteristics of this country's founding fathers. White crime/hatred against humanity is breathtaking. Have you heard of Dylan Roof? How about mass shooters? Who blows up little girls? Who hangs humans from trees and then have a BBQ?Youre so ignorant that you see a situation but pick out the parts that make you sleep at night. You lost your damn mind over Columbus day being changed and then turn around to talk about black crime. You bi%th about liberals. Im such a proud black person who knows the many contributions of blacks in spite of the efforts of a country to dismiss it. Your comments tell me that you focus on numbers and not people. It tells me that you want to hide behind numbers. Asians are not pets for whites to trot out. They surpassed whites in their own country. They know more about blacks than you. They know the deal and play accordingly. You are on a BLOG whining about a contract, pay, blacks, Mulgrew,etc but won't do sh't more than whine. Dumbazz' brag about doing the devil's work for NYC liberals and then whine on a blog about the same racist liberals. Trump and his kind fan flames and then sit back and point. They wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire. Whites continue to berate, attack, victimize and harass asians. I would talk about all of the contributions and advancements made in STEM and the arts by people of color but why bother? You ain't worth it.
PS. Blacks are a lot of things but one thing we are not, is weak. Happy Mother's day.

Anonymous said...

Lol. Sad! No wonder some groups never ever improve.

James Eterno said...

We are not getting anywhere. Time to move on.

Anonymous said...

I am Asian (not east Asian though). My ethnic Asian group has unfortunately faced the most hate crime from white people. Post 9/11 was not a fun time for us. A lot of people are very bad at geography it seems. Black people were not the group that most performed hate crimes on our group of Asians. In fact, I have met quite a few black people who speak our language and really enjoy our culture.

I think a lot of people look at statistics as if they are the whole truth. They give insight but that doesn't translate to black = bad and white = good.

There are other Asian groups that face hate crimes and that white people take the lead in initiating.

This isn't me talking as a liberal brainwash as some people like to say here. If you would like to know, I actually don't follow parties and focus more on individual issues. This is just my experience growing up post 9/11 and facing the crap I did from mostly white teachers who were ignorant. And then from colleagues and bosses from previous jobs.

Every race discriminates. Black people discriminate, Asian people discriminate, everyone race does. But to say that this race is bad and this is good and pure is so wrong.

Anonymous said...

James. I am 9:22. And I’m going to say it again. My whole point isn’t to vilify blacks. So please to those who are offended, I ask how does one counter false claims of white supremacy causing the Asian attacks without using data that shows blacks are number 1 Asian victimizers? The real racists here are those who so deeply resent white people they’re ok with bullshit accusations of racism against white people. These same people also ignore racism against Asians because it inconveniently puts some blacks in a bad light. That’s the conversation. If you pick and choose what kind of racism disgusts you, you’re not really anti-racism. I recognize racism against blacks. It exists. As does racism against every other race. If you think my white skin means anything more than a melanin amount, you’re the racist.

W4S: “Asians are not pets for whites to trot out” wtf? Why would that even enter your mind, W4S? Only a racist would see an Asian as someone as a pet or a race so weak they can all be manipulated and trotted around by another race in 2021 America. No one came close to saying anything like that but you. You’re aLso mocking white people in your commentary and sort of in an unAmerican way. Not cool.

This is the part where James closes the comments section because a conservative is making a rationale argument and the leftists here are being exposed for the racists he/she/they is/are.

Anonymous said...

Also, straight from the FBI website for 2019 statistics on hate crime offenders:
https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime/2019/topic-pages/offenders

By race, ethnicity, and age (Based on Table 9.)
Race

In 2019, race was reported for 6,406 known hate crime offenders. Of these offenders:

52.5 percent were White.
23.9 percent were Black or African American.
6.6 percent were groups made up of individuals of various races (group of multiple races).
1.1 percent were American Indian or Alaska Native.
0.9 percent (58 offenders) were Asian.
0.3 percent (22 offenders) were Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander.
14.6 percent were unknown.

White people, you make up 52.5% of hate crime offenders in 2019. This is according to the FBI, link above.

Anonymous said...

University research vs actual crime stats collected by the US Bureau of Justice Statistics. Your call on who to believe. I’m sticking with bjs stats.

Anonymous said...

All anyone who has doubts about the existence of racism in this country has to do is to read some of the comments here

Anonymous said...

Red State Unemployment Rates:
FL: 4.7%
AL: 3.8%
OH: 4.7%
UT: 2.9%

Biden State Unemployment Rates:
NY: 8.5%
CA: 8.3%
NJ: 7.7%
HI: 8.5%

Anonymous said...

Yeah, sure. What you said can easily be disproven by watching the news, following the nypd or ny post on Twitter. Almost every anti Asian attack has been by a black oerson.

Anonymous said...

Agreed. And, as soon as it was clear, in pictures, that blacks were committing the crime, cnn, cbs, abc, msnbc...stopped speaking about it. Who is using who as pets?

James Eterno said...

3:19 said: "This is the part where James closes the comments section because a conservative is making a rational argument and the leftists here are being exposed for the racists he/she/they is/are."

I am going to quote from the 2002 book, The Strike that Changed New York. The book is about the 1968 UFT strike and its legacy that I was reading. John Lawhead sent it out for the UFT reading group.

Here is the final paragraph of the Jerald Podair book:

"The identity of the city’s mayor, in fact, may now be irrelevant to the two New
Yorks that make up Ocean Hill–Brownsville’s legacy. Having taken on a life of their
own, they transcend him. They enmesh New Yorkers in a tangle of clashing attitudes and understandings that may well prove impervious even to changes in
economic conditions. In the city today, blacks and whites work in the same offices,
eat in the same restaurants, travel on the same subways, and, perhaps, even attend
the same rap concerts, but afterwards, retreat to separate worlds. One is tempted
to say that if these worlds can be reconciled anywhere, it will be in New York, city
of eternal hope and renewal. But even in New York, all things are not possible.
Ocean Hill–Brownsville’s shadow remains a long one. Escaping it will require a
degree of vision and fortitude that most of its citizens do not appear to possess
at present. Until they do, Ocean Hill–Brownsville’s heirs, both black and white,
will search in half-light for elusive common ground, looking past each other, like
strangers."


That looking past each other line hit me as I was reading the book simultaneously continuing to get the emails every few minutes with the comments from this posting.

Nobody is convincing anyone of anything. Yes, time to close this comment thread.

Michael Gatton said...

Time to turn off comments entirely? The crazy on here does nothing for the cause of attracting members to your caucus.

James Eterno said...

The link to the Podair book.

https://uftrg.files.wordpress.com/2021/04/podair2002.pdf