This came from Success Academy to their employees.
What will NYC be doing on this issue for their employees? There is a piece in the latest Chief Leader civil service newspaper on vaccinating city employees. Thanks to John Lawhead for forwarding it to me to beat the paywall. The first two paragraphs:
For months the de Blasio administration has resisted forcing public employees to get the coronavirus vaccination even as Governor Cuomo threatened to withhold future doses from the city hospital system.
But Dr. Jay Varma, Mayor de Blasio's top virus adviser, April 29 indicated the city's patience was ebbing, particularly regarding health-care workers, citing a U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention report on a nursing home in Kentucky where unvaccinated staff were determined to be the source of dozens of infections and two deaths.
We posted last week on how mandatory vaccinations for staff and students in NYC public schools might be very popular with parents and teachers. The legality of any kind of vaccine mandate is a gray area now because of the Emergency Use Authorization of the vaccines. They did not yet go through the regular FDA approval process, but mass vaccinations seem to be the way to get this pandemic under control.
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I thought that since the Covid vaccine was approved for emergency use, that no organization could mandate it. I wonder how this will play out with Success Academy and why is she mandating it by June 14th when all her schools are full remote for the whole year?
Why the fuck is my school giving students $50 gift cards to write an essay?
Success Academy will end their current all remote school year on May 28 and begin their new term on August 2. They have still made no commitment with respect to on-site learning when students return. Just wondering if they also will mandate the vaccines for children—assuming it’s available by the summer—and will parents be okay with vaccinations for their children.
Paying students to write an essay? Lol. No money for spring break 2020? Is that even legal? What a sham the doe is. "Education"
Vaccinate or take a leave. I do not want to be in meetings with unvarnished cinched colleagues. We all agreed to be tested with EUA tests to be able to work in buildings so what's the difference with vaccines?
Absolutely, should be mandatory for students, teachers and all workers. Don't like it? Quit.
I'll gladly take a leave as long as my medical and dental are still covered. I bet a ton of teachers would take the offer as well.
Are the vaccines 100% safe? No.
Mandating severe side-effects and possibly death to the rare few.
Where are the extensive studies on long-term effects? Oh, there are none b/c this is new.
But whatever. Let the haters continue to spread hate and misinformation as they've been brain-washed to do.
We do not know the long term effects of these rapidly produced vaccines. I am comfortable with for example the mmr vaccine because it has been around for several years. I worry giving it to my 16 year old if it will affect their continued development or reproductive ability.
I understand others are comfortable and that is good for them but these are my feelings and I am not wrong to have them so please don't post telling me so.
I know people other people who don't want the vaccine feel the same as well. Some who wanted and got it and that works for their beliefs again good for them.
The only way I could see vaccines being mandatory for DOE employees is if they are mandatory for the general public. It may very well fly in right to work states which ironically may be more politically adverse to a workplace vaccine mandate.
I smell lawsuits coming
TBH- while i think getting the vacinne should be apersonal choice, I dont think that there should be a remote only option next year. TEachers should not be able to say" im scared of getting covid" and " im scared of the cure/vacine for covid" too.
thats hypocritical.
Take a science class if you don’t know the difference between a test and a vaccine.
Take a leave if you’re too afraid to sit in a room with me.
Johns Hopkins research says medical errors are the 3rd leading cause of death for Americans. I’ll fake getting the vaccine if I have to, I’m crafty that way.
IF you're so old that you want to force your colleagues to vaccinate, you should probably retire, you Tier 4 boomers.
9:06,
I no longer have a dog in this fight, as I am resigning from the DOE after this school year. But I have to get this off my chest:
Vaccination is not like testing. Not one bit. I am not going to allow anyone to inject an experimental and dangerous vaccine inside my body. Never. All the vaccine advocates can go to Hell.
No matter what the "experts" say, this vaccine artificially teaches your DNA to create a spike protein - you do not mess with the natural order like that. PERIOD. At the end of the day, it's synthetic, and God knows what kind of long term effects will linger on long after the the vaccine is supposedly washed away from your system.
There is nothing that the "experts" have said that will convince me otherwise. They do not have my trust.
As for people like you who demand that everyone is vaccinated, I'm very serious when I say that YOU people are the ones who don't deserve to live on this planet. You are cowards, who afraid of your own shadows. I do not feel any obligation whatsoever to "protect" you or your ilk.
This COVID crap has been overblown, and there is an agenda. All this virtue signaling about getting vaccinated only proves that further. It's like a mentally diseased cult.
When you all start getting health problems from this vaccine, don't you dare come moaning and bitching to those who refused the hemlock.
MRNA vaccines have been being tested for a while now. If you don't want to use it, then take J&J. That vaccine uses a more traditional vaccine method that does not impact on MRNA.
The tests are under EUA just like the vaccines. You take them as a condition of employment. You have already set the precedent of using an EUA procedure as a condition of employment.
Roll up your sleeves before September.
The anti vaxxers tend to be right wing nuts. The same ones who try to take over comments here. Vax or negative weekly test to enter a school. Simple S that.
Save some lives, take a MAGA to get a COVID shot.
Those that don’t want the Covid vaccines and for all anti-vaxers—just wondering if you would have rejected the smallpox vaccine, the polio vaccine etc. due to distrust. Just hope and pray you have some kind of natural immunity from COVID-if there is such a thing —as an alternative to taking the vaccine. Please wear a mask or maybe you don’t trust the CDC, scientists on that one too.
By the way, still can’t believe that the Orange Clown suggested an injection of some element of Clorox would be a game changer in front of his entire COVID medical team last year.
I’m also assuming these same anti-vaxxer people would not have served overseas in the military during WWII -as soldiers were vaccinated for protection. Ironically, some of these same people might live in Needles, California.
What good would taking a leave do?eventually the car days run out.no all of us can afford to go unpaid...as the the vaccine injury reporting sites the severe issues and deaths from vaccine are not as rare as pharma controlled media would have u believe.also, many died needlessly because of censoring the treatments and preventive measures.i hope if the mandate is unavoidable,that I can leave and teach in a place with state with common sense with license reciprocity.i am starting to research this just in case.
Down the road when people realize they have been duped into vaccine related serious health issues, there will be lawsuits.but it may be too late and too widespread to fly...I agree CD with previous postings:with covid's1% death rate,this should not be forced.i would line up for a shot for a real pandemic with a high death rate and spread.but that is not the case.not worth the risk.i am high risk.if I catch covid, it could potentially be very bad.same for vaccine though..due autoimmunity.it is not fair to label people with autoimmunity as anti vaxxers or conspiracy theorists.i stay out of indoor spaces except for a weekly grocery run. My big answer is if it is so dangerous,why weren't all of you vaccine pushers adhering to mask wearing instead of saying it is against your rights?why wasnt the so called mask mandate enforced?masking is non invasive and doesnt force poison into you.that is my issue.now it seems like possibly, the unvaxxed can be affected by close contact with the vaxxer! We have to watch out for you!
Florida is too liberal with mask policies, making it unsafe.we need a safe haven for thinking people to live unvaxxed if they choose, even if it is away...are u aware that a cdc whistleblower said they knew mmr caused autism, esp in black males?do u trust the govt??they are working in making a SARS covid 3 virus in the lab according to what I read.LET PEOPLE MAKE THEIR OWN CHOICES!if u r afraid of us despite your having been vaxxer, wear a mask.and what does that say about the effectiveness of vaccine?live and let live!
10:33: I guess you only eat what grows on the vine. Do you ever read the chemicals in packaged food? I'm sure you never had Starbucks.
8:41: Exactly. No remote option. Teachers are going to say you can't force me to get a vaccine and I'm still afraid of getting covid all the while the teacher is sitting at TGIF having a drink with friends.
Vaccines are safe, approved in Europe too and all over the world. They are not an attempt by Bill Gates to put chips in you to track you. Unvaccinated folks spread disease. The more who are vaccinated, the quicker we can get back to normal for good. Cut the bullshit and get a shot unless you are allergic to the ingredients or have another medical exemption.
Here’s a thought directed toward ant-vaxxers—if there was a safe, effective and throughly tested vaccine for every segment of the population that prevents 90% plus of any type of cancer—available starting tomorrow —would you be in line for that shot?
And also just wondering—do any of these same people that use cell phones, smart phones etc. —ever worry about possible brain cancer— or worry about Bill Gates or Big Brother tracking every move you make?
What do you think the virus does when it infects your cells? - It hijacks your cellular machinery, which reads the viral RNA and produces spike proteins. Your body doesn't care if the foreign RNA comes from a virus or a syringe. Except that the RNA packaged in a virus has killed >500,000 Americans and the RNA packaged in a syringe has killed approximately zero. Vaccines don't teach your DNA jack. Viral RNA doesn't even enter the nucleus where your DNA resides (retroviral RNA is a whole other, more complex story). RNA is a delicate short-lived molecule. You need a high school level biology to understand this.
If Steve Bannon or Tucker Carlson doesn't say it, MAGAs don't get it. Vax or unpaid leave.
Why do you keep saying it is a GOP thing, most black are the ones refusing, that is documented. Mayor keeps saying minorities are lagging.
Check out the polls. Republicans are the most common anti-vaxers.
NY Times, May 6th -
“Black and Latino New Yorkers also remain behind: Only 30 percent of Black adults and 37 percent of Latino adults have received at least one dose.”
Lots of Whites are not getting the vaccine for the same reason as their above mentioned counterparts, they don’t trust it or the people pushing it (especially Bill Gates). Bill Gates is especially egregious in that he is fighting to keep patent protections on the vaccines he’s involved with purely for monetary reasons I am assuming, although his greed will cost many lives - which happened to be mostly non-white and poor.
https://youtu.be/kZ5DavuOkcM
This is from Slate
"Refusers are less likely to be college educated or earn high incomes, and they’re more likely to watch Fox News. Across multiple surveys, Republicans are about twice as likely as other respondents to be refusers. In a Harris poll taken last month, 37 percent of refusers, compared with 21 percent of respondents as a whole, said they were very likely “to register as a user for a potential social media website created by Former President Trump.”
Except for tbe lack of a college degree which MAGA commenters here have,the refusers fit the profile of the MAGA teachers who comment here all the time just to be a pain in the arse.
Force them to be vaccinated or go on unpaid leave. Great idea.
Save lives, vaccinate all the MAGAS here. We can do it.
We shouldnt have to choose between earning a living and not poisoning ourselves.
Yep: "large increases in willingness to take vaccines emerged for those who were asked about getting a vaccine if doing so meant they wouldn’t need to wear a mask or social-distance in public" https://nyti.ms/33pO4if
Well, I don’t miss Donald Trump, but every time I see Biden I say, what the hell is he going to do next? Print up some more money and start the next Great Depression? Or invite half of the third world to come in here and then put them in cages? Or let the terrorists, who blew up the WTC, take over the country we saved? Or will he just lie down already and let Kamala take over? Who cares? As long as CNN and all the Trump haters can prop up the Black man like a lifeless puppet, and put words in his mouth, as to why he does and doesn’t do what he does and why he feels the way he does, all will be OK. BLM is the best thing since emancipation. Forget that evil organization the NAACP. Forget Martin Luther King, he was way too religious. But be careful - we can’t have black folks that like guns or won’t get vaccinated, it doesn’t fit the profile. We can’t have people who are Trump supporters not getting vaccinated, we’re all in mortal danger! You can’t have people saying that Trump won the election, even though he didn’t ; it will tear up the very fabric of our society! We can’t have anyone with different views on Facebook or Twitter because we are the only ones who have the correct opinions! Let’s force people to get vaccinated. Let’s only believe the woman, when it is against someone who is against our views - don’t believe them otherwise. Only let people have complete rights over their bodies, when it doesn’t affect us directly. Tear those babies directly from the womb, as they’re coming out - throw an arm over there and a leg over her, and don’t forget animal rights while you’re doing it! And don’t forget that Kavanaugh is the devil and Cuomo is the savior!
Now they are going to say getting vaccinated is a white privilege.
Thousands dead or severe side effects.educated people read beyond the paid for media.even people I meet with less education know more than you ignorant selfish people.
Jury has passed verdict: to be a good fascist Democrat, one must obey the government!
And yet not long ago the leading "intellectuals" on the left were vowing never to take vaccine...because it would turn them orange or something.
How times, and "science and data," have changed eh?
Millions not infected with variants. Hundreds of thousands not dead because of vaccines. Take your shot.
Half my timeline thinks the pandemic is over. The other half knows someone in India.
A scientist recently said that the true deaths from covid in the US are more like 900,000
The MAGAs here will call that scientist a snowflake lefty fascist. 600,000 is bad enough. You can prevent more by simply getting a vaccine.
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In this outbreak of the Indian variant at a UK primary school, 6 infected children transmitted the virus to ALL of their family members. Two people have been hospitalised.
Small numbers, but consistent with sequencing data suggesting the variant is extremely transmissible.
Get vaccinated
We are elated that Sue Edelman commented here and linked her story on Success Academy to us. Her link didn't work. This one should.
https://nypost.com/2021/05/08/success-academy-requiring-all-employees-get-vaccinated-for-covid-19/
Happy birthing person day
TO 12:07 from 6:52
Yes, I believe I would have rejected the smallpox vaccine, the polio vaccine etc.
I nor did my children get the swine flu vaccine 11 years ago when it was repeatedly encouraged to do so. Not comfortable feeling like a guinea pig.
"Please wear a mask or maybe you don’t trust the CDC, scientists on that one too."
Mask? CSC?Trust them? Jan/Feb-2020-CDC directed stated only medical professionals NEEDED TO WEAR A MASK.-a lie-6 months later we were all masked and then told yes, we should have
all been masks but that they were trying to save masks for the doctors, nurses, etc. and if we were told the truth they knew we would create a bigger shortage. so they chose to lie.
We should have been told to use a scarf, make your own. No, the CDC decided to Lie instead of trying to protect us. Could have saved thousands of lives.
"By the way, still can’t believe that the Orange Clown suggested an injection of some element of Clorox would be a game changer in front of his entire COVID medical team last year."
Yes, the orange clown did say that. However, he has been vaccinated AND HE HAS ENCOURAGED OTHERS TO DO SO ALSO. -What sets him and I apart is that if he or his family has any side affects or concerns they would have immediate access to top medical professionals whereas I do not. Or at least not without a long wait.
Again, not a debate. My feelings and beliefs are just that. Mine. Yours are yours. Both should be respected and neither should be attacked for how we feel.
There are a lot more Republican/right wing teachers in NYC than most people are aware of. We just keep a low profile. We are not evil or racist.
If there is fear of being in a room with teachers who are not vaccinated, maybe the non vaccinated teachers can teach remotely. Then nobody has to mix. But to FORCE people to take it at this early stage in the game is hostile and oppressive. I could see ten years down the road, 7 years down the road, but not now. I’m no anti-vaccination person, but let’s see what happens with this thing. I’ll wear the mask forever in the classroom before I stick that thing in my arm any time soon.
You have a choice of vaccines now. J&J is not brand new technology.
The Johnson & Johnson vaccine is what's called a viral vector vaccine.
To create this vaccine, the Johnson & Johnson team took a harmless adenovirus – the viral vector – and replaced a small piece of its genetic instructions with coronavirus genes for the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein.
After this modified adenovirus is injected into someone's arm, it enters the person's cells. The cells then read the genetic instructions needed to make the spike protein and the vaccinated cells make and present the spike protein on their own surface. The person's immune system then notices these foreign proteins and makes antibodies against them that will protect the person if they are ever exposed to SARS-CoV-2 in the future.
The adenovirus vector vaccine is safe because the adenovirus can't replicate in human cells or cause disease, and the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein can't cause COVID–19 without the rest of the coronavirus.
This approach is not new. Johnson & Johnson used a similar method to make its Ebola vaccine, and the AstraZeneca-Oxford COVID-19 vaccine is also an adenovirus viral vector vaccine.
Nobody is forcing you to take a vaccine or face a fine but if you want to work with kids and other adults, take it. Good job Eva requiring it.
The radical right here are scared shirtless that the vaccine will be required for employment in a NYC building. For that reason alone, I am looking forward to mandatory vaccines.
We got this from Canada for those who think US scientists are corrupt. The question is on long term side effects of mRNA vaccines.
Answer:
While it’s difficult to definitively say whether or not there are long-term side-effects, the medical and scientific community is confident in the long-term safety of the mRNA COVID-19 vaccines.
According to the USA Centers for Disease Control, “Researchers have been studying and working with mRNA vaccines for decades. mRNA vaccines have been studied before for flu, Zika, rabies, and cytomegalovirus (CMV). As soon as the necessary information about the virus that causes COVID-19 was available, scientists began designing the mRNA instructions for cells to build the unique spike protein into an mRNA vaccine." In addition, cancer research has used mRNA to trigger the immune system to target specific cancer cells. Decades of studying mRNA have shown no long-term side-effects.
According to the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia , the vaccine is not expected to have long-term negative effects for a few reasons:
First, most negative effects occur within 6 weeks of receiving a vaccine, which is why the FDA asked the companies to provide 8 weeks of safety data after the last dose.
Second, the mRNA in the vaccine breaks down pretty quickly because our cells need a way to stop mRNA from making too many proteins or too much protein.
But, even if for some reason our cells did not break down the vaccine mRNA, the mRNA stops making the protein within about a week, regardless of the body’s immune response to the protein.
In addition, the medical and scientific community is confident in the vaccine’s long-term safety, because of the track record of Canada's vaccine approval and B.C.'s safety monitoring system. Overall, this means that the end data and safety tests are exactly the same as other vaccines that have been approved in Canada. The safety monitoring system in Canada happens both passively and actively.
Passive safety monitoring happens when anyone with a significant reaction to any vaccine reports it to their healthcare provider which is then reported to the BCCDC, Health Canada and all the way up to the World Health Organization. This information is shared globally in a timely way to flag for other countries any emerging and urgent concerns.
An example of active safety monitoring is the nurses across Canada who are actively reviewing patients’ charts as part of the IMPACT (Immunization Monitoring Program ACTive). This is a pediatric hospital-based national active surveillance network for adverse events in children following immunization, vaccine failures and selected infectious diseases that are, or will be, vaccine-preventable.
Canada’s system has proven time and again that the data necessary to get through the approval process is sufficient to prove safety, even for the long-term.
I voted for Trump, I got my 2nd dose in February. There goes that theory.
The data shows the Republicans are more likely to resist vaccines. We are appreciative that 10:59 got the vaccines.
@11:07, Must be a lot of Black Conservative Republicans in the Bronx.
The poor and Republican males are not getting vaccinated in high numbers. You see you all got something in common. Let's celebrate.
Data shows minorities lag in taking the vaccine.
I am a democrat and do not want a vaccine. Most parents were I teach are democrats also do not want this vaccine.
Stop offering science lessons. We don't want the vaccine. You are not going to prove you are right because this is not a right or wrong issue.
I as well as many NYC families don't want it. Why not take up the argument that all NYC schools should have proper ven·ti·la·tion. That is something we should have and all can agree on. The air quality in my school was so poor before covid. We should all have a modern ven·ti·la·tion system. Opening a window and hoping air will make it to stairwells with no outside windows in not proper ventilation.
As far as accomadations go, the school building a teacher works in should also be considered. Poor ventilation is a big spreader of covid too. I would feel find to go into the building where my child attends school. They installed a new ventilation system last summer. The building where I am assigned to work is 100 years old with poor air quality and no ventilation system.
Fix the school buildings and stop pushing a vaccine.
All for improved ventilation but you not getting vaccinated is helping this virus possibly infect my kids. Sorry to confuse you with science
There goes the white, right wing theory.
As observed in prior weeks, Black and Hispanic people have received smaller shares of vaccinations compared to their shares of cases and deaths and compared to their shares of the total population in most states. For example, in Colorado, 10% of vaccinations have gone to Hispanic people, while they account for 41% of cases, 25% of deaths, and 22% of the total population in the state. Similarly, in the District of Columbia, Black people have received 31% of vaccinations, while they make up 55% of cases, 70% of deaths, and 46% of the total population.
Overall, across these 42 states, the percent of White people who have received at least one COVID-19 vaccine dose (39%) was roughly 1.5 times higher than the rate for Black (25%), and Hispanic people (27%) as of May 3, 2021.
The white Republican theory is from the data from polls. On this thread, it is the majority of anti-vaxers here.Get vaccinated or go on an unpaid leave. Glad Arthur Goldstein says vaccine should be mandated to work.
Do the students all have to return in September, or is that their option? 2 articles were just posted saying blacks and hispanics lag.
Vaccinated Republican voter here. Not an anti Vaxer. Don’t believe people should be forced to vaccinate under emergency use vaccines. Depending on covid’s future I am open minded on the issue. If, a big if, if COVID starts affecting us like the annual flu (#deaths, hospitalizations, rate of spread) why mandate COVID vaccine and not flu vaccine? My school didn’t start enforcing measles vaccines until the measles made a comeback in NY. My principal preferred to take the penalty rather than deal with it and the supt and chancellor were ok with that. Funny how these NY democrats didn’t give a shit about no measles vaccines in nyc public schools but now want to force a brand new vaccine on people. No one cares what others have to say about getting the vaccine. It’s a personal choice. Since I’m vaccinated, I don’t care who else is. Yes I know I can still catch COVID but my likelihood of hospitalization or death has been drastically reduced. That’s why I got vaccinated. So if you’re vaccinated and still afraid, the burden is now on you to stay home.
Teachers will never be forced to be vaccinated because students will never be. No demands of any kind are or will be made on students, as it may endanger their fragile egos and/or a complaint of racial discrimination might be made. Let the coddling continue!
If you want to trade on people's rights, outlaw abortion.not fair ru murder an innocent being.ah but u will say it's my body....same thing here.also u all didnt like evas policy.there should be 2 wings of school vaxxed and unvaxxed.that way it is fair to everyone.i was ready to give up my dream job when they tried to mandate h1n1 vaccine when I worked in a hospital.then they retracted the mandate.i got mmr and still got mumps while nobody in my middle school class got it.i never took a flu shot and never had flu. Go figure that one.i am typically careful.i dont go to movies in flu season.i try to avoid visibly sick friends.i dont share food and utensils.avoid crowded malls too.
And I'm not racist or anything...but other countries have strict restrictions for travellers.this stupid hard headed leadership let's anyone in.ie from countries with bad outbreaks.like right now it is India.so families will visit and bring it back here and blame careful non vaxxers.we should have routines in place too.at least trump shut borders
FYI, I got my 2nd shot in Feb, my arm still hurts where I got the shot, like a muscle injury.
Trump shut borders wit exceptions, same as Biden. The abortion comparison falls apart because what you do with an abortion is to your own body so it doesn't affect me or anyone else. When you don't get a vaccine, you can get all of us sick.
Go get vaccinated!!!!!
Got my second shot months ago. I am fine.
What about the child? Cuomo has permitted late term abortion’s where the fetus can be killed as it’s being born. So I would say it does affect someone other than just the person getting the abortion. The comparison does not fall apart.
Please Bronx ATR. 65% of legal abortions are in the first 8 weeks. 91% come in the first 13 weeks of pregnancy. 1.4% occur after 21 weeks.
Each person not getting a vaccination puts many at risk. I am quoting CDC by the way for numbers.
Abortion is unequivocally wrong. It is tantamount to legalized murder. Logically you cannot tell one group they can have total control over their bodies, while affects another, and then tell another group that doesn’t agree with your opinions that it must comply to a vaccination.
I don't want to moderate an abortion debate on Mother's Day.
Happy Mother's Day to all the moms out there.
I can’t think of a more appropriate day to have it, James. Happy Mother’s Day to all the moms out there.
3:43: That is such a stupid argument for abortion rights. It doesn't matter at what stage the baby is in, it's still a life.
Forget about vax cheerleader vs antivax, right/left, yadda yada.
Why would anyone on a union blog support forcing teachers to jump through another hoop when one doesn't exist.
As of right now, none of us teachers were mandated to have a vaccine of any kind to be employed. Students are supposed to have them, enforcement varies, but never staff.
What logic says you don't need a measles or polio vaccine but you do need a coronavirus vaccine?
You needed measles, polio, mumps, to get into college. Without college, you can't teach.Mandating Covid shots in a pandemic makes a lot of sense.
Will be easier legally once full FDA approval comes. Then mandate every teacher, staff and 16+ student get vaccinated. And open up schools 100% like before covid. No coddling pro-virtual/hybrids and no coddling anti-vaxxers.
Assessing one's "individual risk based on their own circumstances" is not how infectious diseases work 🙄
But it is the preferred American approach to public health!
If I had m in mps vaccine and got mumps put of nowhere,it means the vaccine didnt work.that is the point.i never got a flu shot and I dont get the flu. I am just hoping like heck the last covid disappears and all the arguing is moot.lets see if the vaccine works.if it really works and no long term effects come out, I will get it.these moms who vaccinate their infants(some died of the vax) are either very dumb or vulnerable or were so poor that they were incentivized to take that risk.very sad for them.
Btw there are prophylaxis drugs against covid with proven safety records.id sooner take that.
7:52 that's entirely false. Maybe your college (or state it was in) required them, plenty don't.
Hahaha. Good luck getting ‘the world owes me something’ parents allowing for forced vaccines. It’s going to be fun watching them accusing lefty teachers of racism or hating poor people or whatever other bullshit they throw at you when they refuse to get their kids vaccinated. They’re getting ready to use the tactics you taught them against you. Karma baby.
If it is so safe why is the mayor still doing his news conference alone and having the doctors
zoom in????
1058. Because DeBlasio is a virtue signaling clown not to be taken seriously.
Then you liberals can take over.
All the Trump haters who are brainwashed from propaganda. Most of your so-called brains lost the critical thinking piece. This is because of Trump that there is a vaccine otherwise this would go on for years. Trump is the one who is making you mentally ill people feel like we can come back to normal.
"covid" is basically the flu influenza A and B. 99.5% survival rate. Anyone in 60's or above I understand taking the vaccine. So tired of you whiny babies who took the vaccine so worried about people allowing their immune systems to do what it is meant. There are millions of viruses yay we have vaccines for maybe 15 of them. The same amount of people died last year as the year before.
Excess deaths from COVID-19 in the USA from COVID according to the CDC:
During January 26, 2020–February 27, 2021, an estimated 545,600–660,200 more persons than expected died in the United States from all causes (Figure). The estimated number of excess deaths peaked during the weeks ending April 11, 2020, August 1, 2020, and January 2, 2021. Approximately 75%–88% of excess deaths were directly associated with COVID-19. Excluding deaths directly associated with COVID-19, an estimated 63,700–162,400 more persons than expected died from other causes.
Estimates of excess deaths provide insight into the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic beyond tracking data on the numbers of deaths directly associated with COVID-19.§ Data on reported COVID-19 deaths might be limited by factors such as the availability and use of diagnostic testing and the accurate and complete reporting of cause-of-death information on the death certificate (3). Excess death analyses are not subject to these limitations because they examine historical trends in all-cause mortality to determine the degree to which observed numbers of deaths differ from historical trends.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7015a4.htm#:~:text=Since%20April%202020%2C%20CDC's%20National,COVID%2D19%20(2).
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