You can read it at NYC Educator in its entirety.
Here are some parts that interested me.
President Michael Mulgrew is soon to be about to start crying poverty as contract time nears as this excerpt from the question period shows.
Sean Ahern, East River Academy (D79)
Trump and DeVos did not get the cuts they wanted. And we have a supposedly progressive mayor. Do we need a blue state revolt? We went through years with Bloomberg and Giuliani. What do we have to do?
This blog makes a not very bold prediction we will be asked to pitch in right around the time our contract is up.
As for the longer school day that comments here feared, we had a question on that too.
Giraldo Maldonado, Chapter Leader Manhattan Comprehensive Day and Night
Caranza’s visiting schools. Our AP says he wants to extend the school day.
MM: Extended Day usually refers to after-school activities. There will be no extra work without extra pay. I believe that’s what the new chancellor is talking about. (then a long tangent on snow days)
On the new state law protecting unions, we have this:
Thomas, International HS at Union Square
What are the specifics of the new state law? Even my membership team members may not want to pay dues.
MM: We are currently reviewing the services, to see what will the effect will be. We are not ready yet. (Pension consult – no. Representation inside of the contract – yes. Representation beyond the contract – no.) Every local around the state is reviewing it. By the way, Cuomo signed the law here (motioning to the stage).
Much of the rest of the meeting was about our fine new UFT App.
Should I be sorry or glad I missed the DA?
22 comments:
I do not want to work one minute more for one penny more. If the city wants to cry poverty and give me a 1 percent raise that is fine. Here is the the thing, if the city IS crying poverty why would the ask us to work longer for more money that the city DOES NOT have to begin with? If the can afford to pay us a raise then pay us a raise. Asking us to work a longer day for more pay is not a “raise”. This exact shit happened with the 2005 contract where teachers were dumb enough to take the offer of more money for a longer day. Maybe the chancellor is talking about after school enrichment which would be extra money for teachers who want to volunteer. There is no real way for Mulgrew to spin this “city is broke shit”. This is all the more reason for the UFT to not bargain a new contract with the city first. We need to wait it out till another union makes a deal. If that union gets a raise without givebacks such as a longer workload, then we would be entitled to the same deal due to pattern bargaining. Mulgrew better tread lightly here. The rank and file are watching what is happening with teachers around the country. We do not want to get shafted with the new contract.
We will beat the 1% pattern DC37 will set by working a seven hour ten minute day. Time for longer periods and still have PD. Can't beat it.
Fuck all that. No longer day. I don't need a raise. I want to get out of my school and to my dogs at home as soon as I can.
Nah. Forget this crap. Any time they say something is voluntary, it is *not*. They will force you to do it. The Supreme Chancellor (our Dear Ruler) will say that every school must provide extended instruction. To fulfill this stupid edict, they will fill the position with volunteers.
But, we know that 90% of the people will not volunteer, they will be coerced by their APs, who must fulfill the new Supreme Leader’s edict, by hook or by crook.
Nevermind that this new edict will make no difference to students. Teachers are already spread too thin and have too many students. This edict does not address that. But, it does look good in the newspapers (lazy teachers, am I right?). By the time it becomes obvious that the new hours aren’t useful, this drifter we have as an Chancellor will be long gone. Yet, his “idea” will carry on like all zombie edicts do. (Data Teams, anybody?)
How does Mulgrew keep winning elections? He is the most useless Union leader ever. Yea that extra time will be voluntary, except that if you don't do it you'll get a bad rating or discontinued. The days should be shorter! We don't even get credit for this stupid PD time, why has this not been addressed yet, it's year two of a five year cycle.
I really, really, do not think that we will be even asked go vote on a contact that has an extended day. The city is crying broke and as the posters above mentioned the city does not want to pony up the money for a tiny raise let alone a longer day. I was teaching in NYC back in 2005 when the city made an offer to us for a longer day. However, it was part of an extended contract that got us FIFTEEN PERCENT raises over the duration of that contact. Yes, we got suckered into it and I did not vote for it. However, that was a lot of money compared to now. No way will a shitty 2 or 3 percent "raise" fly in this day and age if it includes a longer day.
Have you any idea how gullible your colleagues are?
Mulgrew does what’s best for him, his family and his friends - the rank and file are not included.
How about a big collective FUCK YOU sign to the UFT leadership by pulling dues the first chance we get?
Adding longer hours is something I don’t think any Uft member would agree on.
UFT members were dumb enough to vote for a longer school day back in 2005. There was big bucks in that “raise” then. There is no way the city will offer that kind of cash now. My biggest fear is if the city wants to extend the school day and as an “incentive” they provide paid maternity leave. All the dumb, gulliable, teachers would take that bait.
It’s time to out of the stinking shit pile that is the
DOE/UFT
Our Union by not negotiating in good faith has impacted that a group of teachers called ATRs are treated in a different way under rules that were not voted, and are denied a fair chance to find permanent jobs because they are in disvantage with respect to new teachers. The ATR pool was never created to be a dumping ground for the most experienced teachers. Therefore we require a new agreement with the input, and vote of ATRs in compliance with the Roberts Laws. We also require a new agreement that prevents any targeting, harassment, or abuse from any type of supervisor with the sole purpose of terminating ATRs. Observations should not be used in a arbitrary, and capricious way to penalize or to terminate an ATR.
Even Pat Lynch with the PBA wants to negotiate separately of the Municipal Labor Committee to protect health benefits for his members. You'll never see mulgrew put his members first. Read it all in the civil service paper The Chief.
I would really, really, like to hear somebody break the "code of silence" of the 400 member bargaining commitee. I want to know what is on the table during negotiations. If somebody fills me in I will hook them up with a nice dinner and drinks!
The Monday meetings are going in class time
They arent even negotiating yet.
We need to make sure deBlasio pays a real price for even thinking about puttig health care cuts on the table. I had a life-or-death experience that almost went very poorly due to the copay structure that deBlasio was putting in. We should call the new high ER copay system #deBlasioCare, which is “no-care,” not healthcare.
He figures a dead teacher is cheaper to insure than a sick one. That’s why he instituted a new system of astronomical increases to ER copays with a gamble structure that makes sick teachers try to do game theory when deciding if they should go to the ER. Fuck deBlasio and his sick healthcare calculus. He cares more for the horses in Central Park than he does about us. Show me a “Progressive” contract, and I’ll change my opinion. But, that last one was draconian.
DeBlasio is your typical NYU kid; not so good at math and reasoning, but, Aces the identity politics section!
Watters/Hogg 2020!
I'm with them.
The UFT is looking the other way while many veteran experienced teachers are being brought on false charges, so the only choice they have is to retire.
Field supervisors have a blank check to go after ATRs, they know that the UFT will not challenge any type of observations on ATRs, or unfair circumstances. Out of license, in a bad class, students the ATR just met, ATRs having close to 8 days absent or excessive days absent.... Everything even unfair observations, and circumstances are good to terminate an ATR. Any reason is good to make an ATR uncomfortable.
As long as these field supervisors can carry their dirty agenda on high expectations that are unreachable everybody is happy. At the same time they need to hire new inexperienced fellow teachers to replace all those experienced teachers that are becoming ATRs. It is a perfect plan designed by our leaders and Union. The plan is to make ATRs useless, overwhelmed and discouraged.
For the ATRs its bad enough that the DOE wants to terminate us but it seems the UFT leadership is helping the DOE thin the ATR herd by stabbing us in the back. That is why the DOE and UFT agreed to the field supervisors in 2012 as another chance to make the ATR problem go away. Again everybody is happy. Our Union knows everything is fine.
Our Union by not negotiating in good faith has impacted that a group of teachers called ATRs are treated in a different way under rules that were not voted, and are denied a fair chance to find permanent jobs because they are in disvantage with respect to new teachers. The ATR pool was never created to be a dumping ground for the most experienced teachers. Therefore we require a new agreement with the input, and vote of ATRs in compliance with the Roberts Laws. We also require a new agreement that prevents any targeting, harassment, or abuse from any type of supervisor with the sole purpose of terminating ATRs. Observations should not be used in a arbitrary, and capricious way to penalize or to terminate an ATR.
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