It is not surprising news that Governor Kathy Hochul signed the mayoral control extension into law but not the bill to require NYC to lower class sizes. After Hochul’s easy win in the Democratic primary on Tuesday, it looks like she does not feel she has to be concerned about UFT support.
Gov. Kathy Hochul signed a bill late Thursday that extends mayoral control of New York City schools for the next two years.
But her signature came with a tweak: The eight-member expansion of the city’s education panel, which was passed under the original bill, will be delayed by five months.
Mayoral control — which allows the mayor to choose the schools chancellor and appoint a majority of members to the city’s education panel — was set to expire at midnight Friday.
The bill, passed by New York lawmakers on June 3, needed the governor’s signature to become law.
Further down:
Legislators passed the mayoral control bill earlier this month as part of a package deal with a separate bill that would force the city to lower class sizes across all grades. The class size bill passed nearly unanimously, but city officials and a budget watchdog have raised concerns that it’s going to be too costly to implement.
Hochul still hasn’t requested the class-size bill, angering some lawmakers, advocates and the city’s teachers union.
“We are calling on the governor to sign this legislation now,” Michael Mulgrew, president of the teachers union, said in a statement Friday morning. “Our students can’t wait.”
Hochul is probably in total panic after reading that statement. Then again, she is more likely to be laughing out loud.
The UFT needed to lobby and put real public pressure on before Hochul won the primary, not after. The UFT could have made any UFT support for a NYSUT endorsement conditional upon Hochul supporting the lower class size legislation.
We did not and it is now a maybe or maybe not on whether she signs the lower class size bill. Will the Legislature then attempt to override her if she does not sign the class size bill into law? I doubt it.
What will the UFT then do? At most, a tweetstorm.
124 comments:
Easy on the personal attacks on each other in comments. I am trying to rest with my family at the start of summer so moderation is not a real priority. It looks like some of you are taking advantage of my not wanting to overly worry about anonymous personal attacks that I think are ridiculous. However, some are offended so please stay on topic.
This is a blog about teachers/schools in NYC.
Please stop with all the other nonsense. I may have strong opinions about a lot of politicians and parties, too, but just stop it.
This blog should be about all teachers trying to find ways to protect our healthcare, increase our paycheck, increase our pension, increase teachers’ rights and safety, change our rating system, protect us from terrible and vindictive admins and parents, fight lowering standards, etc…
If you are a teacher, whether I politically agree with you or think you are a nut job, you aren’t helping because you are letting people on all sides hurt teachers and our livelihood. GROW UP and SHUT UP.
This is why I think many of the off the charts comments aren’t teachers, because real teachers, whatever they believe, know that NO ONE LIKES US AND WE NEED TO FIGHT TOGETHER. It should be NYC TEACHERS OVER PARTY.
That’s my 2 cents.
What would you and Camille have done if you had won the election?
Not endorsed Hochul until she agreed to our priorities is what I would recommend. Just because someone has a D after their name and may win is not a reason for an endorsement. A union endorsement needs to mean something.
So Mr Eterno, would you have endorsed someone with an R after their name of it means something?
I did not believe that the class sizes would be reduced regardless of mayoral control. Many principals would not have complied with the class size requirements and the UFT would have done nothing. School administrators, like politicians, are pathological liars.
I am done voting for democrats. I am embarrassed and guilt-ridden by the damage caused by: Biden, Harris, Cuomo, Hochul, Benjamin (Lt. governor who was arrested), DeBlasio, Adams, Bragg, Mulgrew! (I didn't vote for Bragg or Mulgrew). Democrats of today are far from the democrats of years ago.
We all knew the lower class size law was a pipe dream. They would need so much more space and more teachers to comply. Also, big high schools would have to extend their days even more to comply and that would be a problem. What teacher wants to work until 6:00?
Smaller class sizes are great, but it's something that has to be phased in. How does one talk about excessing teachers in one breath, and programming for smaller classes, and needing more teachers in the next? Doesn't make sense, sounds confusing, like everything else in the DOE.
so long as we're too much cowards to strike they will walk right over our faces
Phasing in is the plan:
“It phases in over five years and requires the city to work with school employee unions to lower maximum contractual class sizes. By 2027, the law would cap kindergarten through third grade classes at 20 students. Fourth grade through eighth grade would be capped at 23 students. And most high school classes at 25 students.“
With enrollment down in plenty of schools, it would be easy to phase in lower class sizes: simply don’t cut the budgets and don’t excess the teachers!
Phase in is the plan, 5 years
Where is the uft?
https://nypost.com/2022/07/02/principal-accused-of-wanting-to-oust-white-teachers-created-school-of-insanity-petition/amp/
Anon 12:16–that does make plenty of sense—but no matter the enrollment—if it ever goes higher or lower—the only cents the DOE is really concerned about is how much they can squeeze out of school budgets—that justifies the mighty spending dollar. So, the hell with teachers and students and it makes a villain out of the principal when they are forced to excess teachers, or cut programs etc.
Don't worry, principals are great for finding loopholes so they won't have to comply with the 25 student limit. They could say lack of teachers in the license area, lack of space, etc. etc.
My wife and I just resigned from the DOE. Moving truck coming today, house is in contract and we are relocating to Florida. She has 12 years left to retire and I have 11, but I can't stay and continue watching this downward spiral here. We are not moving for political reasons. Mostly to be with family and weather, but this school year was the worst and a catalyst in the decision. I hope down there I don't have to witness kids vaping in class, kicking doors, cursing out staff, being on phones, all with no consequences and then having their grades changed to passing. Who knows, maybe it's the same where I'm going, but at least it will be warmer all year round and palm trees will help wave that stress away. I'll report back in a few months.
What about pension and salary? Yes, we will be taking a hit, but you can't put a price on happiness. I'm no slave to the pension.
Some of you might remember I blew the whistle at my Staten Island school and a heated battle to terminate me ensued. Blogs, media, false arrests, 45+ false investigations etc. I survived. I also ran for UFT president in 2016 with UFT Solidarity. I'm happy to report I'm leaving on my own accord and will be the STEM coach for a school located on 70 acres of wetland near the beach. Convertible sports car, golf after school and watching my boys thrive all while still pursuing the amazing field of education. I don't have to wait 11 years for that life. My family is already happier and that's what's important.
Some say I've given up the fight, but instead I really just repurposed my time. Life is short, so do what's best for you and your family first. The rest will follow. Your contributions to society as educators is invaluable, but please do what you need to do to be happier every day. Sometimes that means speaking up about wrongs so they can be made right and sometimes that means changing your environment entirely. Have a great and relaxing summer! Message me if you need something. I'm still advocating and helping fellow educators, but more behind the scenes.
Inflation-adjusted public school changes since 1970:
Funding per student: +152%
LOL. I wonder why it hasn't worked.
The union endorsement can't mean anything if the entire union is not taken into consideration. There are many conservative teachers who do not endorse Hochul or any Dem for that matter but are willing to work with someone because we realize the state will mostly likely go blue. Our voices are not only not heard but ignored disenfranchising many in the union and ultimately making such endorsements meaningless. Politicians know this which is why the UFT endorsement meaning nothing.
@3:05
The DOE puts principals like Paula Lev in charge of a school in order to destroy the public school and replace it with a charter school.
There is no other justification for this mismanagement. The cutting of budgets by Mayor Adams is also to create the justification for increasing the number of charter schools. First, Adams has to show that public schools are a mess.
Sorry to be off-topic, but...
https://wendellpotter.substack.com/p/biden-is-continuing-trumps-privatization
9:59 I don't believe this. First of all, the public schools are already a mess without any cutting of budgets.
Anon 9:59,
Adams is in charge of the NYC DOE. By admitting that these schools are a mess, isn't he also admitting that he is a failure as the leader of the DOE? Being in charge of the DOE and being pro-charter is similar to the CEO of Toyota telling you to buy Honda. Why not clean your house instead of sending your guests to the neighbors? Plus, Adams is about as smart as a bag of rocks and immoral as the next politician.
Bloomberg was a different story. He is a smart man and immoral. When he was mayor (and perhaps now, too), his mission was to ruin/close down the regular DOE schools and was pro-charter because he blamed the DOE problems on the teachers and the UFT. He thought it was better to ruin the schools than to support them. All his school decisions stemmed from his hatred of unions. He really could not care less about education in NYC. He gets his employees from all over the world.
Regarding school budgets. I think the DOE budget should be cut and return some money back to the taxpayers due to failure to deliver. All administrators should be audited. Central offices should be cut first then the cuts should work there way down to the schools. The waste in my school is astronomical.
Episode 17, Season 12
The Thundering Dunderheads of NYC
John C. Liu
@LiuNewYork
Jun 2
We passed legislation to at long last reduce class sizes. This is a huge victory for NYC school kids that will provide students with a sound basic education. Combined w/ $1.6B in ADDITIONAL ANNUAL state funding for
@NYCSchools
, this is a FUNDED mandate!
David C. Banks, the New York City schools chancellor, said in a statement that the bill’s “multibillion dollar unfunded mandate” would force school leaders to shift resources away from programs such as dyslexia screenings, school nurses and summer programming.
“I don’t dispute their estimates of cost impact,” said Senator Liu. “The problem with their argument is that we are already providing the additional money,” he added, referring to the $1.6 billion per year in additional aid the system is receiving through April 2024.
@712.: Congrats on the wise move! Sounds like a great place work. Many former DOE teachers are already down there because of the useless COVID jab mandate. I love how you say you are not a slave to the pension and that you can’t put a price on happiness. I would add that you can’t put a price on your health and freedom as well. If you don’t have bodily autonomy, then you truly are a slave to the state!
All the best in Florida!
I don’t know anyone who votes based on a UFT endorsement. Since NY democrats have spit in my union face time and time again, I now vote for their opposition. If every union member in NY unions did this, we the union members, not the union heads, would be a democrat priority in the next election. They’d have to give us something to return. Leverage.
All the increases in education have gone to administrators and consulting companies. Each year they get a bigger cut. We can’t keep voting for democrats and expect a change. Leverage. So easily gained by voting opposition for one election cycle. The UFT leadership- UNITY- works for the democrats. No better way to hurt them than by showing everyone they are powerless without us. To do that some of you have to hold your nose and vote Republican to teach the democrats to respect union members more than union leaders.
No Republican endorsement. They are generally horrible on public education and want more charters, vouchers and other forms of privatization. There is always the option of staying neutral.
I can not begin to tell you how much better I am since President Biden took office. He really is a people's president. I am better off with my 401k losing nearly 30% since he took office. I am better off when my grocery budget doubles for the same items. And thank you, President Biden, for allowing me to take a second job just to make ends meet. Your leadership is admired worldwide as foreign news agencies openly laugh at you. Oh, yes, there is a Santa Clause for other nations and people who receive billions in American taxpayer money while families here go without baby formula. I can not deny that my life is much better off since Joe Biden was elected.
Is it just me, or is this strategy totally illogical. Vote for your enemy because your frien is lukewarm?
@1:50:00 You are right. It is totally illogical.
And it is another reason why our Union members are so pathetically
disenfranchised.
Just for perspective, we are facing existential crises on multiple levels, literal and political, domestic and international.
1:19 It takes a lot of sacrifice to attain or remain a Democracy. We were very close to being overthrown from within. I'm sure the people of Ukraine would wish that they didn't have to flee to shelters, and didn't have to scrounge for food to feed their children, but they are still holding fast in their quest for Democracy and are not whining that Zelensky should just fold to Putin's demands.
I can't believe the cowards in our country who think it is ok to keep a traitor in office, a man who supported his own Vice President being publicly hung. Even now, after all that has been said and done, some of you will STILL want him to return instead of supporting a more stable Republican. That's disgusting, unconscionable, and unforgivable.
Is this portelos?
Avoidable mess:
NYC teachers booted amid budget cuts scramble for vacant positions
https://nypost.com/2022/07/03/laid-off-nyc-teachers-scramble-for-vacant-positions/amp/
How does seniority work? Is it based on years of teaching in a position, or is it based on the years in a particular school. I ask because the great article posted by 6:52 says "Beck, a veteran teacher with 18 years of experience but only a handful of years with Big Apple public schools, said she was let go based on seniority". I can' t tell if it's her handful of years at Big Apple that led to her being excessed.
6:52: I don't know what the purpose of that Post article was. Excessing teachers has been going on for years. At least now they are saying that the excessed teachers will be placed before they hire outsides which is something that should have been done years ago.
Uncle Tom Mayor just thinks poor black children don't need music, art of gym instruction. His political career is so important so that poor black children are disposable. These poor black children need to humbly accept their inferior position in unfunded schools without the arts. An so our very racist Uncle Tom Mayor means to enforce
the inferior education of poor Black children
Why do black elites conduct themselves so uncharitably toward their
impoverished fellow blacks?
@6:52 As the Post article describes the unfortunate consequences of the budget cuts, we can see that this is intentional, criminal mismanagement.
Seniority for excessing is based upon citywide seniority within your license among the teachers in a school.
Hello Everyone,
Been a while since I have posted. Wishing everyone a safe, healthy, and happy Independence Day! Enjoy the time with your loved ones and let's hope when we get a new contract, we don't need something to bite down on to deal with it :).
To all the fellow teachers that post here; enjoy your summer and thank you for all that you do. It's a stressful job with a lot of nonsense. Unity is key!
Be Well,
Moose
PS: I miss "Golf Guy". Some of those posts were hilarious. I can always use a good laugh. Thanks for that brother!
7:37 because the impoverished always vote for Uncle Toms like Obama and Adams and Tish James. The impoverished are Uncle Toms’ bread and butter.
Seniority is based on your number of years in the DOE not a specific school. If someone has 15 years and finds a position at another school, he/she will outrank all the teachers in that new school who have fewer years. The person who was teaching 18 years probably had only a few years in the DOE and that is why she got excessing. Excessing also goes by license area. A music teacher with 25 years can get excessed if the school ends the music program and he/she is the only music teacher or if another music teacher has more than 25 years. This is why principals don't like taking in teachers with a lot of years as it pushes down the seniority of the other teachers in the school and puts the newer ones in danger of being excessed.
One way to avoid excessing is to have teachers teach a class out of license. If for example, the school had two history teachers retire and they planned to excess one, there will be an opening in History. Let's say they planned to excess one English teacher. To keep that teacher, the principal can force each English teacher to take one history class. If you have a full program, you can be forced to teach one class out of license. Usually the principal will ask for volunteers first. But I have seen principals do this.
9:37 Obama is not and was not an Uncle Tom. Make up your minds, you guys hated him because you said he was putting too much emphasis on black people. Now he's an Uncle Tom. Just admit it, you wouldn't like him no matter what he did. Actually you don't need to admit it, I already know.
Thank you to those who posted about seniority. Very helpful. I was thinking of changing schools, but not if I would lose my seniority, especially in this "excessing" climate. Your posts clear it up.
If there are 3 classes within a license,it is considered a vacancy. Also, with 20+ years of appointed service you cannot be excessed from your school.
Funny thing about Barry is that one of his mansions is on Martha's vineyard...an island that by now was supposed to be deep underwater according to Al Gore 20 years ago. But he did just install a 2.5k gallon propane generator for some reason. He's got some others in Hawaii and DC. Note he's not working on restorative justice in southside Chicago.
Whatever the case...it's an election year so get ready for another summer of love/rage or whatever the Narrative dictates.
OH NO! Not a Martha's vineyard mansion! You do understand that by sounding the alarm and the passing of legislation, climate change was slowed. You do understand that, don't you?
3:01 what are you on about? You guys have the gall to whine when people mention Trump, who is still running his mouth on everything, and yet Obama who hasn't been President for a much longer time is always in always in your thoughts and comments. It's so pathetic. Furthermore nobody is stopping you and your pals from going to a right wing blog to wail and moan about things. When has Republican leadership ever supported worker's rights and unions? Never, that's when.
9:37. Why no outrage over Adams or Tish James being labeled Uncle Tom and just Obama. Uncle Tom assignment is an opinion. An Obama Uncle Tom argument can be made. He’s fair game. You made it personal and got antagonistic in your commentary. Not necessary.
2:04: Yes that is called rule 10, but that doesn't mean you get to keep your position. This happened to a French teacher. She had over 25 years but they ended the French program in our school, so she was basically an ATR in the same school. Because she was an ATR, her salary came from the DOE and wasn't factored into the school budget. She could have still looked for another position somewhere else but French teaching jobs are scarce. She stayed in our school two more years and covered classes until she took the ATR buyout.
Well hell, at least we have Obama. Look at who you have: Trump, Bannon (wants to dismantle our government altogether, but sure, Happy Indepdendence Day hypocrites), Flynn, Clarence Thomas (now that's a certifiable Uncle Tom), Marjorie Green, Cawthorn (liar, and undercover gay), dye-running-down-his-face Guiliani, Betsy Devos, incompetent on education). You guys did have Ben, author of Gifted Hands and acclaimed medical doctor, and he gets put in charge of Housing. LOLOLOLOL.
4:29 looks like you responded to the wrong timestamp, but personal and antagonistic? Well this is antagonistic and offensive "the impoverished always vote for Uncle Toms like Obama and Adams and Tish James." Far more offensive than the response. The race baiting is also "Not necessary."
There go the Liberals going after Trump again. Oh wait, that's Liz Cheney, lifelong Republican/Conservative"
"There’s a growing chance that the Justice Department will charge Trump with a crime or crimes connected to the violent insurrection as more damaging testimony emerges.
Jan. 6 panel co-chair Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) said Sunday that the select committee could make multiple criminal referrals to the DOJ concerning Trump. A poll last month found that nearly 6 in 10 Americans believe the former president should be charged for his actions linked to the insurrection."
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That will be a great day for America! Happy Independence Day Y'all!
@4:26 this is Obamas third term he's the idiot speaking in Biden's ear.
They do not know who Barry is lol. The Kamala Harris cackler @5:05 is nuts we have 20% inflation 5 dollar gas, food shortages, taliban with 80 billion of our equipment, borders wide open, child sex trafficking, kids being raped everyday at border, sex/identity being taught to little kids. Yup TRump sounds so much worse
@8:35 except you have zero proof of what/if Obama is whispering in Biden's ear. Pure bullshit speculation.
And yep, ANY Authoritarian is so much worse, you traitor. But who said we shouldn't make a change when the time comes? You think Trump is it? If I'm a Kamala Harris cackler you are a Trump buffoon who supports attacking the police at the Capitol. Yeah, much, much worse and you are no different than the Taliban and their twisted ideology.
btw @8:35 up yours. What is your fixation with child sex and rape because it comes out in many of your posts. The syntax is very similar with the same ole lines. Were you abused as a child? Were your own children? You don't seem to care for the children you teach at all, in fact you seem to despise them, so it's bizarre that you pretend to take such an interest in children's issues, specifically child sex. Why do you lament about it so much? This is a teacher blog not your stage to bash Biden or to put Trump on some pedestal as your Lord and Savior and definitely not a platform for you to keep harping on child rape. How is that appropriate? Are you going to drag this thread into the gutter too, like you do every other thread?
Did his tweets butt hurt you?
@8:35 like idiot Trump had Putin whispering in his ear?
They do not know who Donald is lol.
I think that people need to read Uncle Tom's Cabin. Trying to demean someone by calling him an "Uncle Tom" makes no sense. Unfortunately, this is a flaw with many people; just repeat what someone else has said. It would behoove Americans to stay silent, do a little research, consider facts, consider all sides, then form an opinion and share. Have we forgotten the adage attributed to the Bible, Abraham Lincoln, Mark Twain...:
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt."
Apologies 7:28pm. The comment about making things personal was for 1:00pm. To address your comment on race baiting I’ll point out that “The impoverished always vote for….” was in response to the question of why black elites, like “Uncle Tom Mayor” are uncharitable to the impoverished @7:37. My response was not race baiting. When politicians know they own your vote no matter how badly they treat you, they will always treat you badly. If Uncle Tom is an acceptable insult against Adams, then it’s also acceptable for any other black politicians. For some people calling a black man Uncle Tom is only acceptable if you disagree with the black man. Adams ok. Justice Thomas ok. Obama not ok. I call bullshit. If the use of Uncle Tom is acceptable…. Well there you have it. It’s acceptable no matter who you use it on. Maybe it’s time to retire the term since it really has become the new N-word used only on black people- mostly black men- as a way to demean them. James disagreed on a prior post. He sticks to the history of the term rather than seeing it as a racial slur like the N-word. His blog. His rules. Who is an Uncle Tom is opinion and as such all black politicians and celebrities are fair game. Thank you for being civil in your comment.
I asked you folks to stop it and a few of you didn't listen. I am having way too much fun with my family to closely read every comment. If people are getting offended again by anonymous insults and slurs, we once again ask for people to stay close to the topic (here it is the class size bill and mayoral control). Otherwise, it is just as easy to hit delete as post. I am trying to give all of you your First Amendment rights and allow you to vent but as usual some take it too far hiding behind anonymity. Enjoy the summer.
Not offended. Waiting for relevance. Will sit while I wait. Maybe make a map of the general topic, with a key and everything.
Regarding anonymity:
I request frequent commenters on this blog create a pseudonym, as I and some others do, so we know to whom we are replying, and stick with it.
Here's how to do it:
1. After you write your post, click the bubble below that says Name/URL.
2. Create a name and you can ignore the URL box.
3. Check I'm not a robot as always and publish.
Simple-- and your real name or account will not appear so still anonymous.
Note: the name you use will not save so you have to repeat the process for each post.
Thank you to those who stay on topic.
Regards to all.
6:36 you're still butt hurt over Obama. Get over it, get a life
9:02 just because one only singles out one person doesn't mean they don't findit offensive for all. Clarence Thomas is a whole 'nother entirely. He's an Uncle Tom and worse. And yes, I know the history of the word (8:00) but we are also talking about current definitions. I agree that the original Uncle Tom was an honorable man.
6:36 "did his tweets butt hurt you"? Calling for armed men to go to the Capitol, having meetings about it, and supporting the hanging of the Vice President and conspiring so that he can overturn an election is not exactly just tweets are they?? Are you really that out of touch with reality? How embarrassing!
6:06am. You’re talking about 2 different commenters. I know because I’m one of them. I am not 8:35. What’s considered “ drag into the gutter” commentary? Is the gutter only linked to what you don’t like? There’s a new phenomenon. Children going to stripper like drag shows. Its real. It’s happening. Although I will admit maybe not to the extent certain media are saying. Mock me all you like. I don’t think it’s good for children to participate in shows where performers put on an adult sexualized show. If you assumed I don’t think children belong around any gay/trans people, you’re wrong. I’ve been to a couple of drag shows. They’re racy, sometimes raunchy. It’s adult entertainment that is not appropriate for children. I’d say the same for a straight burlesque show. There is nobody sane who can disagree with that.
James… July 3, @4:31pm, a democrat, was the first person in this thread to launch personal attack because he didn’t like the comment mocking Biden. BlueAnon comes through with the hang Mike pence hoax. Trump24!
It is all out of your system on who started it now please stay on topic.
Surest way to turn a lukewarm friend hot is to give your vote to their enemy and then ask them what their temperature is before the next election.
12:17 "waah, waah, waah, they started it". Are you done?
ROFLMAO @ 12:21.
12:17 Just stop it and grow up. You weren't mocking Biden, you were mocking Democrats. Don't want to get slammed, stop slamming others. You only took it personal because the shoe fit.
How is this surprising? Two liberal dummy hacks Adams and Hochul, all they want is power and the liberal new world agenda.
omg the same numbskulls who believed and still believe the russia hoax, the smae numbskulls believed all the fake impeachements we are supposed to listen to you?
You guys gotta admit that Biden is not up to the job. Trump is whatever you think he is but you guys can’t think Biden is solving our nations challenges. Do you? I’m not saying Trump is close to the answer of the person we can all get behind to address the issues of our energy supply, inflation, creating good paying jobs that outpace inflation, medical benefits, true education accountability, illegal immigration crisis where millions of undocumented individuals continue to break our federal immigration laws that were historical passed by both parties in our federal legislature, misers in our nations cities where people have been killing each other for decades. Are we a dying nation? Are we the last generation that has economically progressed better than our parents? Are we a nation that within less than 25 yrs will be a under the thumb of the Chinese government? Are our best days still ahead of us or are slowly moving down the road to civil war our foreign control?
I’ve been called kook, stupid, idiot, racists an all the other names that people freely and with out consequence use because I believe in the Constitution with all is blemishes and greatness, and also believe in federalism, the bill of rights, checks and balances, separation of powers, the elastic and supremacy claus. I tried to have an honest conversation about the role of our government in our lives especially after the recent court cases but was disappointed in the few responses who questioned my intelligence.
Oh well it would have been interesting debate instead of just demeaning the Supreme Court justices who decided against roe, for gun rights in ny and for more government control of the epa. We can do this because if we don’t our nation is fucked. I know many of you guys dislike President Reagan but he did make sense at least once when he said that freedom is only one generation away from extinction. What nation will pick up the challenge of freedom when we have destroyed ourselves? God bless
I asked nicely twice to stay on topic. Some of you won't stop. If it isn't about class size or something closely related, it isn't going up. Move on, please.
Sorry James but I just had to vent
Enjoy the summer with the family
Sickening.
NY democrats will never ever ever never lower class size in NYC. They own their voters and they know it. So stfu and vote blue.
Like a dog to a whistle @11:56. Lol
Red hatters claim they deal with horrible attendance rates while also wanting their classes to be lowered from 10 actual students, to 5? Just STFU period.
No, this is about holding gov and mayor accountable for doing right by students, parents and teachers, not so much the charter and malignant $ interests.
@10:50 holding them accountable for what? If students are not attending classes, how is smaller class size a priority? Schools should be allowed to first take the LTAs off the rosters so that we can get an accurate view of our class sizes.
Are you kidding? Do read the news? Do you see what’s going on with the budget? And some schools have had ballooning enrollments increasing throughout the year. LTAs are an issue, but that’s as they say small potatoes here. Bigger issue is crashing the system as a way to boost charter, choice
and gentrification. Bigger issue is what big money is doing and who it’s buying.
11:09 prove it. Prove that they are purposely crashing the system to boost charter choice. And SO WHAT if people have charter choice. The public schools and the teachers in them are a shambles. Maybe the students will finally learn something because they damn sure aren't learning a thing. All I hear is whining from the adults in the room.
It’s clearly the bigger issue, and there is plenty of evidence of the negative influences and effects. No one has to prove intent. And your post is laughably one-sided and devoid of even reference to evidence. But you want evidence, go to NYCPublicSchoolParents or Ravitch Blog, or this one. Pick a year, any year over the last 20 or so. Educate yourself.
No one has to prove intent, the evidence and effects are evident and documented on a number of blogs. Get smart.
5:33 I'm sure that propaganda is spread on any number of blogs but you made the claim here. You can't answer the question so you'll just say it's laughable except there is nothing funny about it.
You can't prove that Adams is "crashing the system" purposely or otherwise to boost charter choice', and you also can't argue against what is wrong with charter choice in the first place. Students in charter schools are more successful academically and that's the bottom line. There is plenty of evidence to that so how about you look that up and education *yourself*. You don't even need to go on a blog, you can look at actual data.
You can look at actual data and $ amounts too. In newspapers and public info. You seem completely biased and part of the destroy public Ed movement. Either ideologue or troll. Beyond the ability to educate yourself.
Oh, and I’m not proving anything to a troll, not wasting any more time on you.
Prove that the powers that be are properly supporting public education and
treating all players, kinds of schools, fairly. Oh, wait, you absolutely can’t, because there is plenty of evidence. It’s just that it’s all against your argument.
12:10 according to you I'm a troll because 1) I don't agree there's a concerted effort to destroy public schools to boost charter choice and 2) I think charter choice is a good idea. Well aren't you the
little lying drama queen. Makes you the troll.
Moreover since when are charter schools not public schools? They may operate autonomously but they are public. Maybe you should educate yourself troll. Not only can you not prove it, you can't even make a good argument.
PS to all, those blogs as well as this one do carry and link to actual data, do contain actual evidence.
General advice, though, don’t engage a troll. Waste of time and energy.
11:50 you're the troll. Data on budget cuts, how they impact class size, and how getting the money, which supposedly we are getting, can help pay for the lower class sizes and claiming that cuts are a plot to push for charter choice are two different things. Thats what I responded to and asked you to show that got your undies all in a bunch. You cant show a link (and neither do those blogs) and you can't show how public school charter school are so horrible for students. Snowflake TROLL.
Yawn. Wasting your time, troll.
Zzzzzzz backatcha troll. LOL. Im not expecting you're processing a thing I say but you just want withe last word. Just admit you're wrong. Lol. You're too busy being butt hurt because I asked you to back up your claims.
Look where and how you vent. By definition. Troll
“$215M cut didn’t include additional slashes to school budgets based on next yr’s projected enrollment losses, which raise total school budget reduction to $372M, according @bradlander” but actually total Galaxy cuts are way over $1B as of today. Leonie Haimson on Daily News article NYC Ed Dept projects student enrollment will drop by another 30,000
Michael Elsen-Rooney
Daily News
Projections also give a preview of what the system will look like if, as DOE expects, enrollment keeps falling sharply.
For ex., DOE projecting 243 schools next yr w/ under 200 students, up from 129 in 2019-20.
Big crybaby @2:27. Your condescending responses to me included "get smart", "educate yourself", "beyond the ability to educate yourself". Let's not start at the end as far as to how I respond. By your own definition you're a troll. But yeah, I'll smack you right back down where you belong. You were way nastier to start and then started crying about my responses. Grow the fuck up and stop being a troll, and stop deflecting to something other than what I responded to. So much evidence about the charter schools yet can't cite anything. Get lost TROLL.
Start your own blog. Ranting here like you do makes you a troll. You know it too. You’re just trying to get rise. You’re a waste of time.
Projection
Eviscerating Public Education - The Farce and the object of Eric Adams' School Cuts - Diminish Public Schools to enhance privatization
https://ednotesonline.blogspot.com/?m=1
Nice opinion piece at 11:18. Yawn, wasting your time troll. Lol.
@ 8:27 Stop projecting and start your own blog. Ranting here like you do makes you a troll. You know it too. You’re just trying to get rise. You’re a waste of time.
The class size issue is also an inclusion issue as well as a compliance issue.
Michael Elsen-Rooney (Daily News)
Twitter
None of these problems are new, + some advocates say they won’t be solved until DOE rethinks entire model of segregating students w/ emotional disabilities.
DOE Dep. Chancellor @QCarolyneQ1 said “inclusion is the direction we want to go” but D75 will still play a role.
But the direct experiences + observations of kids + parents say more than the stats.
“I feel in my heart they don’t know what to do with these kids, so they gave up on them,” said the mom of one recent grad.
New: I spoke w/ 10 families + educators about dire conditions for students w/ emotional disabilities in NYC’s Dist. 75, incl frequent violence + threadbare academic/extracurricular options.
It’s “like they’re institutionalized,” one staffer said.
https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/education/ny-emotional-disabilities-district-75-pipeline-for-failure-20220717-27lssmftpjfkdfuyetlb6cpec4-story.html
Random (more or less, by school/location) low enrollment due to people leaving the city is one thing, creating lower or just plain reasonable class sizes by design is another. In some schools enrollment has been ballooning, and largely with ENLs. Also, those descending enrollment trends can reverse at any time, especially if schools and neighborhoods become more desirable, gun violence goes down, etc.
Class size involves inclusion and compliance
Michael Elsen-Rooney on Twitter:
None of these problems are new, + some advocates say they won’t be solved until DOE rethinks entire model of segregating students w/ emotional disabilities.
DOE Dep. Chancellor @QCarolyneQ1 said “inclusion is the direction we want to go” but D75 will still play a role.
But the direct experiences + observations of kids + parents say more than the stats.
“I feel in my heart they don’t know what to do with these kids, so they gave up on them,” said the mom of one recent grad.
New: I spoke w/ 10 families + educators about dire conditions for students w/ emotional disabilities in NYC’s Dist. 75, incl frequent violence + threadbare academic/extracurricular options.
It’s “like they’re institutionalized,” one staffer said.
https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/education/ny-emotional-disabilities-district-75-pipeline-for-failure-20220717-27lssmftpjfkdfuyetlb6cpec4-story.html
Deformers don’t like to address this, because fundamentally they don’t. Testing doesn’t, screening doesn’t.
Spammer. Find your own blog to spam.
Despite all the hype, nearly 1/2 of 9th graders @successcharters never graduate from the school, @garyrubinstein shows. Where do they go? Who is looking out for these kids? Perhaps @USEDgov should also look at attrition data b/f funding these schools.
https://garyrubinstein.wordpress.com/2022/07/15/nearly-half-of-success-academy-9th-graders-do-not-graduate-from-success-academy/
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https://garyrubinstein.wordpress.com/2022/07/17/success-academy-parents-speak-out-part-1-they-banned-me-from-attending-my-sons-graduation/
Please stay at least 8 feet from the glass, don’t bang the rails, it startles the 🧌
More spam. Get a hobby troll. Wasting your time posting stuff nobody's reading. Lol
It is indeed.
Don’t feed the 🧌
7:13 is still so butt-hurt, now he's seeing trolls everywhere. Sad.
Yes everyone, don't feed the troll (7:13 that has had a complete meltdown all over this thread, and the rest of the board. Don't go out without adult supervision troll. Spamming, trolling, butt-hurting. LOL.
Wow. So much time out of your day spent on trying to impress lil ole me with all the links that I'm not going to even click on.
You: "let's ignore the troll"
You also: link, link, link, link.
Hahahahahah.
ok 4:38 we'll try not to startle you.
Projection and confession
thank you for confessing that you're projecting.
You were easy to pick out on all the threads what with your gradeschool level emojis. I confess that I saw you making an ass of yourself accusing everyone of being a troll. See a doctor.
A troll is Internet slang for a person who intentionally tries to instigate conflict, hostility, or arguments in an online social community.
9:56 isn't that what you're doing by going around all the threads instigating by posting your grade school level emojis. You're intentionally instigating conflict, hostility and arguments. Responding to racist attacks or responding to being called names is not "intentionally instigating conflict". Thats you guys. Nice try tho.
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