Thursday, May 21, 2020

LIVE BLOGGING FROM MULGREW TOWN HALL

I was walking in the yard. My wife called me to remind me this was on.

President Michael Mulgrew:
Finalizing a posting for summer school. Posting should be out tomorrow. It's remote. Being careful. Putting up safeguards for labor-management work. Everything is for during this emergency situation only. Massive summer school. Will children come and will there be enough teachers? We got our raise. We still have Memorial Day off.

Planning on a safe environment for September. Smart betting is on a hybrid model. Part-time in school, part-time remote. Set schools into cohorts A-B is the best scenario. It comes down to how many classrooms we have. Must look at all the space. High School kids more self-directed. Different problems in elementary schools. Many teachers in focus groups. We are the experts emphatically now.

12 kids in a class for the fall will meet with CDC guidelines for our classrooms. If not sure, we should take temperatures. Memorial Day is the first day off since February break. Met with elementary, middle school, and high school focus groups. Also functionals, paras. Trying to get to the end of the school year, set up summer school and have the basic information ready for September. Can't program a school from central. Schools are all different. All have different physical layouts and different numbers of students. Safety is paramount. If a child has a positive test result, how do we quarantine? We learned how to remotely teach, but now we have to plan differently than we did before. We can reach children differently. How to teach with a kid who is in front of you on Monday who may not be there on Tuesday. What about if Cohort A comes one week and then Cohort B comes the next week? Must think it through. Plan and adjust. We are not arrogant people who say something works when we know it isn't working. The September plan is temporary. Operational complaints are working. Safeguards will be in place in September.

The virus is the biggest challenge but the budget is important because we have to fight for our livelihoods. Two teachers testified with Mulgrew at the City Council. Council said the budget will be horrible unless we get Heroes Act money. Can't let state and city try to take away money if it comes. For example, what if we have to give a mask to every kid every day? One million masks will last for one day. Cleaning, they will need extra custodians. That cannot come out of a school budget. We still do not have a nurse in every school. UFT nurses have done a phenomenal job helping through this crisis. We need a nurse in every school. We need a guidance counselor in every school to deal with the social-emotional problems. We need to lower class sizes if we are going to create cohorts. Must lower class sizes if they need a third cohort. We would need more teachers. We need to get the federal Heroes Act passed. Working with the AFT. Huge petition started a conversation on what we need to open schools again. The petition went across the country. Once it got into the news stream, politicians had to react.

NYS budget done April 1. Governor says he will put new cuts out because the economy is losing hundreds of millions of dollars a day. Governor holding off on cuts hoping federal money comes. This is a big, huge, disgusting political game. Not a blue state-red state issue. Most elected officials will do anything they can to win. They want to win and keep positions. Teachers and parents understand we need the federal package. We need the Heroes Act to be a dedicated stream of funding that can't be touched.  No loopholes so money in House package. It will help for next two fiscal years. This is the only thing that gives us a shot at protecting everyone's livelihood. If we don't have this, a lot of people are going to get hurt. Starting next push. Asked AFT. Wall Street and many corporations have been bailed out. Children have never been bailed out. Children need a lifeline. We won't let them forfeit the future of our children who are in our schools right now. Will ask Anthony Harmon who is Staff Director at the UFT to start this push.

Anthony Harmon:

Committee to get Heroes Act passed. Need people to join a campaign with us. Text word "Lifeline to 30644." You will then get a message from the UFT on how to get involved.

Mulgrew again:

They are playing games in DC. They are not even hiding it. Get everyone involved and keep moving and moving and moving.

Industrial hygienists looking at buildings. Doctors and epidemiologists who have worked with us are working with us on this for the future.

UFT legal plan for members only which is free is a robust plan. Make sure you have your health care proxy and basic will done. Make sure to have powers of attorney in place. Families in crisis not thinking about this. This is what doctors, lawyers and bankers are asking you in a crisis. Not having these things in place makes a bad situation worse. Take advantage of the plan; it is free (dues pay for it). Get the papers. Lawfirms will get it done. You don't have to go to an office. Pleading with people to do it now.


Questions:

Question: CDC guidelines are federal recommendations, I work in a school with 3,300 kids and 300 staff. When will teachers know if there will be a hybrid model?
Mulgrew Answer: Getting frustrated with the DOE. We are already a month behind if it was a regular school opening. We started working on different models. Cohorts of kids who would come in at different times. CSA, DC37 and UFT agree we will follow CDC guidelines. The hybrid cohort model is the bet on how will we start. For a big school, we may need a three cohort school. Medically fragile students and staff will need to go fulltime remote. Look at space and how we can use the auditorium and cafeteria (delivering food to classrooms so we won't need the cafeteria for food and can have more classroom space) to see the space we have. It's on the table from teachers to have certain classes be fulltime remote. Good ideas coming from teachers. Hoping model is done by the second or third week of June. We need cooperation from DOE.

Question: Thank you for acknowledging the school nurses. Usually have option to work in the summer and then the caller broke up.

Question: Updated calendar for this year and next.
Answer: We've agreed upon calendar but they still have not put it out because something might change. All they have to do is put out that it may change. We are ready to have votes on SBO's. We have technology in place for SBO and comp time votes. Calendar was agreed to a month ago; we know it's subject to change.

Question: Nurse asks about summer rec center. about possibly working shifts.
Answer: Pulled most folks back from Health and Hospitals. Nurse will be front and center expert in terms of safety. (Someone jumped in: Rec Centers voluntary and per session.) 17,000 on call.

Question: Teacher evaluation and observations? Teachers worrying about tenure?
Answer: No negotiation. State Ed Department said there should be no evaluations this year. Some are being granted tenure. Fewer discontinuances. SED needs an executive order but Governor has not given it yet. It would be next to impossible to do teacher evaluation now if the Governor doesn't sign the executive order.

Question: National day of action to email, text, call and slam on social media Mitch McConnell to shame him to do the right thing by firefighters, cops, teachers, etc.?
Answer: We will do something like this on Tuesdays. No lifeline for children, but more tax breaks for corporations. C'mon man.

Question: District 75 in September, severe low functioning kids. There will not be social distancing; those kids won't use masks and won't share toys. How will D75 look at a reopening?
Answer: That situation has been spoken about and we have to speak to the people who work in those sites about what is realistic and what is not. Early childhood teachers say social distancing isn't happening with 4 and 5-year-olds. Must talk to parents to get their input. This is tough stuff but it is God's work.

Question: Remote learning, seeing checklists, will that be brought to the table?
Answer: DOE asked people to do something they were never trained to do. Synchronous learning is tough to schedule and must get others who can't get in. Working on a definition for summer school. We can't recreate a traditional classroom teacher in remote learning. Checklists don't make sense. Central DOE has never done a remote learning in their lives. Teacher Centers are all over this. Hundreds doing this and they are part of the focus groups. Key is flexibility. Google is an educational platform. Zoom is a meeting tool. Educators in offices throw around terminology but it doesn't mean the same things. Education has changed. Teachers have come up with creative ways to weave this into regular instruction. Teachers shouldn't burn out.

Question: What accommodations will be available for teachers with underlying conditions for the fall?
Answer: Even with social distancing, it is still a gathering of people. Criteria have to come from medical professionals. We are working on it.

Question: Many teachers are parents, how are we going to resolve that?
Answer: We will do the best we can to work something out. Certain times students will be in school and this. Need daycare in place for essential workers which teachers will be when buildings reopen. We don't have enough Y's like some upstate districts. Have to make these decisions but nothing is going to solve all of the problems. Must communicate. Help people get through the challenges.

We will get back to people who asked questions.

Text to fight for the right. Enjoy first three day weekend we have had in a long time. Be proud of what you've done. We did the right thing and people know it.


Please note that once again my wife pressed the zero and as usual her question was not allowed to go through. It's all random, okay.

It is an amazing, just amazing coincidence, that just about every question starts with someone saying what a wonderful job Mulgrew and the UFT is doing.

When will there be a tough question?

68 comments:

Anonymous said...

I don't think this is ok. For someone who must travel long distances on public transportation, it makes the workday much more dangerous.

Anonymous said...

How will the gyms work?

Anonymous said...

What about bus and train people vs people who drive? Big safety difference.

Anonymous said...

Pelosi bill will never pass. If she drops the pork, better chance.

Anonymous said...

There is no way to ensure everyone is negative. We know that. Seems too dangerous to me. What about the older staff. People who had cancer? People traveling long ways by public transport?

Anonymous said...

How was the school system with 3.5% unemployment and billions in surplus??

Anonymous said...

He is telling you to have your WILL and POWER OF ATTORNEY ready. You feel safe going into September?

Anonymous said...

Where was Mulgrew when carranza made his disgusting joke about 108,000 epidemiologists?

Anonymous said...

Do teacher cohorts swap each week or day or every teacher comes in everyday?

Anonymous said...

Mulgrew is mad because the doe wont release the calendar. So, why doesnt he do anything? Everyone on this blog tells the teachers to do something. He is the president, do something. He said they already agreed.

Anonymous said...

These questions are a waste of time. No real questions here...

Anonymous said...

Why cant our rating just be our observations from September-March?

Anonymous said...

Why not shame pelosi into bringing a sensible bill to table?

Anonymous said...

Feel safe? Over 150 possible cases of the Kawasaki disease-like ailment affecting kids exposed to coronavirus are now being probed in New York, Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Thursday, a growing concern as the state mulls the fate of schools for the fall semester.

“It’s something we’re very concerned about,” Cuomo told reporters in his Midtown Manhattan office of the now 157 suspected cases being probed by the state Department of Health. “The more they look, I believe, the more they will find.”

At least 145 cases have been documented among young people in the five boroughs, with a sizable number of those affected also testing positive for the coronavirus or antibodies to it, officials have said.

Symptoms of the affliction — alternately referred to as pediatric multi-system inflammatory syndrome (PMIS) or multi-system inflammatory syndrome in children (MIS-C) — include: persistent fever, irritability or sluggishness, abdominal pain, diarrhea, or vomiting, rash, red or pink eyes, enlarged lymph node gland on one side of the neck, red cracked lips or red tongue, and swollen hands and feet.

Anonymous said...

This is a great time for a fair buyout. Some may have just had enough. Some may have health issues. Some may not want to spend time in schools with all the people, germs, traveling...

Anonymous said...

Mulgrew just glances every time about working Spring Break and the compensation.

Anonymous said...

What happens when a student is in a bad mood, which happens often, and is angry, and spits in your face? Are you going to call the police? What if you contract the virus? And bring it home to family? Then what?

Anonymous said...

LOL. He said he represents the greatest workforce on the planet. I guess the greatest only deserves 1.3% raises and constantly worsening benefits.

Anonymous said...

Yes call the police and press charges.
Teachers MUST BECOME MUCH MORE ASSERTIVE!

Anonymous said...

You should have stayed in the yard you fool.

Anonymous said...

You should have stayed in the yard you fool.

Anonymous said...

Forever?

Anonymous said...

Another great uft scam. Info we already had or didn't need to know. Joke questions. And the does wont allow calendar to come out. Thanks.

Anonymous said...

Why doesn't the UFT put the calendar out and say it's subject to change? They agreed to it so they know the dates. They can't leak it and blame CSA?

Anonymous said...

He told you to get your wills ready 4:22. Simple answer for a kid spitting.

Anonymous said...

How about polling those thousands on the call if we want more CAR days or a few days off earlier in June or money? Would that be that difficult for the UFT do do?

Anonymous said...

From US News we know the price of all that money is liability protection for corporations:

THE NEXT ROUND OF coronavirus stimulus relief appears to hinge on liability protections that Republicans say will protect businesses from lawsuits once they reopen if their workers get sick.

With the Senate back in Washington this week, pressure is mounting on congressional lawmakers to approve a new stimulus package to support American consumers and businesses through what many experts believe will be the country's most significant economic upheaval since the Great Depression.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky has described liability protections as a "red line" for his colleagues in the upper chamber. Democrats and labor groups, however, have argued that these provisions would erode workers' rights and possibly encourage premature openings and potentially risky corporate behavior.

TJL said...

Last night Carranza's email:

"Lastly, please consider applying for a summer position at these links: the Chapter 683 Application is open and the Summer School Application will open tomorrow, May 21."

The Chapter 683 app had a working link, the Summer School Application was also in blue ink yet was not clickable. It's after 5 PM and still nothing. I know the DOE does everything half-assed but this is ridiculous. If the app wasn't ready to go live just say it will open next week.

Anonymous said...

You want the application process to work. You selfish teachers.

Anonymous said...

What about if teachers get sick? Is that ignored? Do we sue, or too bad? If students make us sick? If we get sick traveling to and from on public transportation?

Anonymous said...

Typical uft.

Anonymous said...

Can I choose to do remote learning since I'm going from Staten Island to another borough? It is a very long and involved and dangerous process. I mean, the uft hasn't helped me get a job in Staten Island for 20 years.

Anonymous said...

Nobody asked about grade fraud?

Anonymous said...


Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

Another $298M heading to
@MTA
, adding up to over $2B in federal funding from
@USDOT
so far, part of the $3.9B total from the CARES Act. This is critical to keeping essential personnel moving and aiding metro NYC in recovery. We are here for the people of New York!

Anonymous said...

Mulgrew : ‘Get your Wills and Power of Attorney ready ASAP. Free to UFT members only’ (all the rest can drop dead)
If that doesn’t instill confidence, I don’t know what will! He should of said that last March, but I guess that’s him being proactive for September. It would be funny, if it weren’t so jarring. He instills less than zero confidence in the rank and file. With him at the helm, with the DOE, you know there will be dead teachers, he as much as said it. Sickening. Revolt!

Anonymous said...

Get those wills ready.

Geo said...

As students running the streets come into buildings, after being on trains and buses, start sneezing and coughing and spitting on you...I am 39 years old, please buy me out.

Anonymous said...

The boss has spoken. Did she say anything to Cuomo or de blasio?

Randi Weingarten
@rweingarten

Hey Donald. Take some responsibility.. You weren’t early... you were way late #coronavirus

Anonymous said...

Seemed like a Mulgrew political town hall, with no important info.

Anonymous said...

I guess they didn't learn, sending us right back in. Even if half student attendance, is that full teacher attendance everyday?

Anonymous said...

I will turn 40 over the summer. Give me my final retro and a fair buyout and I'm out. No pension till I'm 55, no medical, tiny pension at 55, etc. I will accept it. Make me the offer.

Anonymous said...

Try to make a teenager wear a mask for six/seven hours. Fat chance. Try to enforce social distancing in classrooms, cafes, gym, bathrooms, etc.. Unless there is a vaccine, none of this is going to work. Also, if we're on two, three different shifts, which teachers get the early shifts and who get the late shifts? Will it go buy Seniority or will teachers with small kids get the early shifts? Also how can the APs do observations for teachers on 3 different shifts? They have 4 months to sort all of this out. Good luck.

Anonymous said...

They better buy me an apartment in manhattan, im not traveling on a bus, train and ferry with this type of medical danger out there.

Anonymous said...

Remember how safe you felt after 9/11? The two unarmed jokes that sit at the front desk really make you feel secure don't they? Well guess what. That is security according to the d o e. So when it comes to your health concerns you will just accept what the d o e terms as safe. And if you don't like it then just get the hell out.

Anonymous said...

How about negotiating that teachers be able to work close to their home if they so desire? Oh wait, that hardship transfer provision is not enforced.

Anonymous said...

Will teachers over 50 and ones with pre-existing conditions be allowed to teach?

Anonymous said...

Remotely you can teach.

Anonymous said...

Carranza on Good Day NY. The DOE just hired a consulting company for 1.2 millions dollars to help "figure things out." Yet, cry poverty.

Anonymous said...

And when a kid tests positive, he will be sent home for 2 weeks?

Anonymous said...

There's no way this will end well, and it's not even the DOE's fault. If you keep kids home for full online learning, people can't work because they don't have babysitting. If they do a hybrid method where students only go some days, the lack of babysitting is still an issue. If they do staggered schedules, that will not match up with many people's work schedules, and busing will be a nightmare. Obviously, students will fall further behind. Also, how would it work (or be fair) that some teachers who claim to have a medical condition don't have to work in a school, while others do? A young teacher can't pass the virus to an older relative?

waitingforsupport said...

@6:35pm: Good one

waitingforsupport said...

This is mind blowing: Get your wills ready?! WTH

Anonymous said...

Why is James Eterno practicing censorship on this blog? Like a lot of lefties maybe he's a bit of a fascist?

James Eterno said...

We have comment rules that you need to at least be somewhat related to the topic. I moved one to a more relevant posting. If I didn't believe in free speech and listened to many of my friends, some more of these comments would never see the light of day. No hijacking the posts please.

waitingforsupport said...

@8:03 pm: that's 75% of the teachers in nyc.

waitingforsupport said...

Remotely means no teachers in 5 years.

D75 said...

Liberal/Democrat teachers scared to work. Typical....

Anonymous said...

What are you talking about D75? I would rather not get sick needlessly because I had to go to work.

Anonymous said...

TJL,

“If these folks can’t figure out a summer school link, then there is no way they are going to be able to adhere to those new CDC guidelines for September”. John Giambalvo

Anonymous said...

You realize if we gave every student 1 fresh, clean, new mask to wear each day, assuming they wear it, wear it all day, we would need 200 million masks for next school year...

Anonymous said...

With 90% attendance, it would be a mere 180 million.

Anonymous said...

And what happens when a student refuses to wear it or takes it off at some point? Are we having security physically throw them out in the street? And when we have to give them each a 2nd mask in a day? Does the teacher walk out when all the students refuse?

James Eterno said...

We have to be prepared to walk out if it isn't safe. That's that.

Anonymous said...

James you commented that we need to walk out if it isn't safe!!

When is the article coming to walk out of the UFT. They will not protect us unless many of its members
opt -out this coming June.

June 1st is around the corner and James you promised your readers an article on how to opt-out.

If the UFT actually protects its memebers and keeps us safe many of us can opt back in immediately!!

Anonymous said...

I do not think that testing negative is of great significance. You can test negative in the morning and catch the virus in the afternoon. How about antibody tests?

Anonymous said...

Hi join the UFT'S fight to solve problems raised in this blog. Let's not just complain, contact the UFT's COMMITTEE to get HEROES ACT. Text "Lifeline to 30644" as called for at the Town Hall.
Take action to help solve the problems.

James Eterno said...

11:56, I was and am still angry about Mulgrew not telling us to walk out of infected school buildings in March. I said I wouldn't forget what happened and that my fundamental thinking about the UFT has changed. They would put our health in danger rather than risk their dues.

That said, I don't believe I promised a post on how to opt out. It is easy to opt out but having done extensive research on the topic since March, no I would not recommend it. I will write why when I pull everything together. That is a complicated post.

Anonymous said...

Lois Weiner on Mulgrew's town hall maybe getting some real questions:

Good! Wondering how else we might refer to Michael Mulgrew so as to clarify something he'd rather we not understand - he actually works for us, or is supposed to? Maybe just name him?