Bronx Councilman Ritchie Torres and Brooklyn Borough President Eric Adams are calling on the city's Department of Investigations to determine why the police are taking longer to get to the scene of a crime.
"To examine if there is in fact a work slowdown and to what extend has the work slowdown driven the growth in violence in New York City," Torres said at a press conference Monday.
Last week, NY1 reported that response times by police for crimes in progress have risen all summer.
In July, average response times hit 9 minutes and 41 seconds — 1 minute and 12 seconds longer than the average response time last July.
This comes as the number of crimes spiked with 686 shootings in June, July, and August, an increase of 156 percent over the same three months last year.
From the earlier story, some more specific numbers from June:
Take June of 2019. It took 8 minutes and 31 seconds to get to a crime in progress. This June, it took 12 minutes and 17 seconds.
NYPD sources say that almost 4-minute jump could be attributed to the protests and looting occurring simultaneously in the wake of the death of George Floyd.
Response times are up for June, July and August compared to last year.
Further down in the August 25 piece:
“A minute in policing is a lifetime, when you are wrestling with someone, when you are being robbed, that extra 60 seconds is the difference between an apprehension or even a person’s life,” said Brooklyn Borough President Eric Adams when NY1 showed him the new numbers. "I think the police department has to drill down on that and see if something is taking place.”
Adams has questioned whether cops are responding slower — part of a rumor circulating that there is a slowdown in the city. The Public Advocate has requested data from police headquarters to look into it.
For those who want to attribute slower response times to budget cuts and fewer officers being on the streets, once again back to NY1:
While the response time for crimes in progress may be longer, when you examine all of the calls cops respond to, that number is getting smaller this summer.
In July 2019, it took the NYPD more than 20 minutes on average to respond to all of its 911 calls. This July, it was about 18 minutes.
The evidence shows something is going on. Police are taking their time getting to crimes in progress. Why isn't there a call from the NY Post to invoke the Taylor Law and fine the police officers for their job action?
The PBA wouldn't be stupid enough to say they are engaging in a slowdown, even if the officers are. It is possible police are following the rules to the letter. UFTers might want to review Chancellor's Regulations and memos, as well as agreements between the UFT and the City-DOE and adhere to these directives and agreements very carefully.
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One might want to take into consideration that the police have to follow to the letter the actions they are taking according to guidelines as, according to our politicians, they seem to be the bad guys at this juncture and are dealing with the likes of DeBlasio and Jummane Williams who will throw them under the bus in a New York minute!
Hey Jummane, how do you like your new diggs on Fort Hamilton military base? Nice and safe, ain't it? With all of those military police officers providing security?! It's a shame that your constituents can't get the same entitlements!
Teachers have to follow the rules too. Follow them.
Tale of two cities:
@DOEChancellor
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@NYCMayor
offices are safe and people are tested before they enter, but schools, nope. The suits don’t care about kids, teachers, parents.
Okay so my question is if police are following the rules now, then what were they doing before? Not following the rules? They have a tough tough job. The vast majority of police are simply hard working folks who just want to do their job and go home to theirloved ones. Me and everyone I know LOVE law enforcement. However, It's like any other instance when you see something but don't say something--folks get lumped in as all bad. If any police officer sees another officer doing wrong, they should say something immediately. The "blue wall" is similar to "snitches get stitches" mentality. It ruins the profession and community, respectively. Same goes for educators. The "go along" to "get along" mentality has come home to our door step. Teachers should have ALWAYS followed the rules of teaching, learning and grading. Sure the grad rate would have "slowed down". So. Now we the people will suffer the consequences of the bad apples taking short cuts.
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The thing is cops aren’t afraid of anything and teachers are afraid of everything. That’s just the way the DOE and UFT want it. The brave ones are brought up on charges, rubber roomed, ATRed and,or terminated .
More Crime due to Mayor's idiocy leads to more calls and investigations by the same number of police officers; which leads to an increase in response time.
This is not rocket science. Blame the Mayor's lack of control and it starts in the schools. They wanted suspensions down; so he removed offenses that would result in suspension - children can basically do whatever they want in the schools. Now these kids are on the streets with that same mentality; direct correlation that crime is up.
DeBlasio - you have failed this city. You need a green arrow up your arse for your incompetence. Don't blame the cops - just like you can't blame the teachers.
@3:14...
You're absolutely right about SOME teachers. Unfortunately SOME in law enforcement are afraid of retaliation from their brothers and sisters in blue hence the blue wall. Stay safe. Speak truth.
My local precinct is not all that generously staffed under normal circumstances. When any major public event is scheduled staffing shrinks. With COVID, demonstrations, and riot, where do you think all our officers go? Not to their usual worksite! Then groups from other neighborhoods chose this precinct as a public battleground for several week and our officers returned (except for injuries and Covid.) Quiet lately.
Do you want to see a diverse work force? Just look at our NYPD members. They are New York! They work so hard to realize community policing but are very short staffed. They are not paid nearly enough for the level and amount of responsibility for CP. Nor are they given sufficient agency to fulfill the goals for which they reach.
Right now every city employee should be working to contract every day and covering their backs. UFT members have never been real smart about this. Maybe they will start to get smart when the layoff notices come.
President Michael Mulgrew said that if problems arose in schools over the course of the school year & weren’t remedied immediately, he expected those schools to close. “If it’s not fixed in hours, then the school must go remote, period,” he said.
President Michael Mulgrew said that if problems arose in schools over the course of the school year & weren’t remedied immediately, he expected those schools to close. “If it’s not fixed in hours, then the school must go remote, period,” he said.
I worked with cops for years as a dean in the statistically worst high school in the city. In the Bronx you have a lot more good cops than bad. The stuff that students do to teachers on a regular basis would result in serious jail time if done to a cop. The UFT is at fault for that.. They are a disgrace as a union and the ridicule of all municipal union employees. The UFT doesn't even come close to adequately representing their rank and file. Do you think Pat Lynch would grovel like Mulgrew?! It’s not just in negotiations, it’s in everyday work environment protections. For example, if a student spits on a cop, it’s an assault - the cop gets time off from work, counseling and the student is arrested and charged with assault. If the same student spits on a teacher nothing happens, not even a suspension and the teacher gets no time off or counseling. Every city agency, NYPD, MTA, etc., views it as an assault with time off for the employee, except the DOE. Our own union disrespects us and no one says a word. I rejoice in the fact I dropped out of the UFT. I knew Mulgrew would NEVER strike. Take a vote of no confidence and throw the bastard OUT.
Hi, I'm a Chapter Leader, I received my school's safety report and the findings are concerning. Are there other CLs on here that received their school's report and find it concerning?
Not happening, but Mulgrew needs to have them announce that On Tuesday and beyond it will all be remote in order to redeem himself from what he did to us last week - safety first !
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This is what we want?
Orange County Public Schools sees 18 COVID-19 cases at 16 schools this week, district says- and NOW it closes a high school... Why are you ignoring #covid
& now refusing to disclose the infection rates...
Waiting 12:50. What if protestors see other “peaceful” protestors commit crimes and not try to stop them or report them. Is that wrong? Protesting is a right enshrined in the constitution, but committing violence while doing it is not.
Bronx ATR - well said.
" If the same student spits on a teacher nothing happens,"
The administration will take the teacher into a conference and demand to know what the teacher did that MADE the student spit at him/her. A guidance counselor or AP will coach that student to write up the teacher under a vague all encompassing Chancellor Reg. Then the teacher would get a letter in their file. The CL would grieve it, the Principal will deny it; then it'd go to level 2 and get forgotten by the UFT. Later on the teacher will be retaliated against in ratings and/or positions; and it will never be proven. And we wonder why teachers are afraid to file grievances and administration can do what they want...
It'd be funny if it wasn't true...
We must change our union. We must get the word out on how to vote in the UFT elections.
Highest rate of positive cases is in Borough Park — over 6%
A colleague was shoved by a student when the class ended. The admin did nothing. The UFT did nothing.This colleague always went to bat for all students. Passed those who worked hard. Stayed late and came in on Saturdays during regents week to prepare students for the exam. The students knew she was strict and demanding. They also knew they would pass the regents if they attended her clasd. However. this one student wanted to test the water. She gave him a chance to apologize too. He threatened to get her outside. She called 911 and he was arrested for assault. You don't give up your rights just because of your job. The admin and parents raised he%%. You would think that the teacher was at fault. You have to teach people how to treat you. Silence is not an option when you are mistreated.
@906 pm..
Riots and vandalism are violent acts. Peaceful protesters are NOT committing crimes. Periodt
just CL...
That's an accurate assessment. However, I think you must make a decision to accept the BS w/o retaliation or not accept the BS and stand up for yourself. Any retaliation will certainly be harsh.
You didn’t answer the question. When the peaceful protestors sees a crime being committed are they morally responsible for reporting it?
And I didn’t say that were committing a. Crime by not reporting it. Asking a moral question.
Most of the teachers I know are cowards. Most of the cops I know are not. Cowards always get treated worse. If you want to be treated better don't be a coward. After the "slowdown" cops got their overtime money back. Teachers will be kept in schools and possibly die or kill a loved one as Carranza hides the infection rate because too many teachers are cowards.
The police and the public are experiencing now what teachers have been experiencing for at least 20 years. As long as Debalsio, Carranza and Mulgrew are at the helm, things will get worse in the schools and in the City.
Teachers have to vote Mulgrew out and vote a for a Mayor who will clean up the NYC fiasco, not perpetuate it.
@Waitingforsupport
Of course we have a legal option, that not the point. As teachers we should be afforded the same rights as other municipal workers - cops, transit workers, sanitation, etc. When a student spit in my face, I called the police- the police came and gave him a ticket for harassment - basically ‘a please don’t do that again’ warning. My blood pressure went to well over 200 and I was as angry and as upset as I had ever been. I had to go to work the next day or be docked. If I was a cop, I would have had indefinite paid sick leave; if I was a MTA worker, 1 month paid sick leave. My actions were questioned over and over by the principal, but thankfully it was filmed. The student was back in school the next day like nothing happened. I eventually forgave him and tried to help him, as an 18 year old chubby, short freshman he had serious maturity problems. Two weeks later he was with me when detectives entered school and he was arrested for burglary and attempted murder. I had all but forgotten him when about six years later, I was returning to school from the corner bodega with a cup of coffee. Approaching me was a hulking 6’6” Frankenstein with an “X” carved into his face. The middle of the X was on the bridge of his nose. I went to move away and he followed me over. I was think ,shit, here we go, when he called me by name and held out his hand. I had no idea who he was and he told me. We shook hands and he apologized to me, told me just got out of prison and was trying to get a job. He told me, I wish I would have listened to you back then. We shook hands and that’s the last I ever saw of him. The DOE’s lack of discipline destroys student lives. The UFT is complicit and does not work to protect its rank and file’s basic human rights - whether it be for assault or for striking. We do what we have to do whether it be to call the cops or to strike. The UFT hasn’t been part of that equation for a long time.
Teachers are cowards? It’s a little more complicated than that. If a Teacher stands up for his/her rights and is completely vilified and unsupported to the point where his/her health is affected - it has the effect of silencing that teacher next time. I’ve seen it over and over again. A caring teacher becomes a detached teacher for self preservation. Words do indeed have an effect. Many teachers are greeted with Suck my Dick! . One teacher in the hellhole I taught in, Grace Dodge, was never called by her name - only ‘Pussy Lips’. Principal came to class, observed it and snickeringly warned the student. A big joke. The whole class called her that from then on. What happens if the teacher loses her/his cool and responds in kind? Laughter, loss of dignity and charges of corporal punishment. Don’t respond and the thug thinks you’re afraid and will likely escalate the offending behavior or physically attack you. Finally one of the thugs went off on the asshole principal, Roberto Hernandez. That was the outrage that warranted a meeting in the auditorium. That student was suspended and removed from the school forever . Hernandez is a big wig now and many,many of the students he oversaw in Grace Dodge are criminals.
Rules are not laws. They are dependent on what people tacitly or otherwise agree to. Your license belongs to the state, not you.
:4:32 am
Yes
@4:34 yes
@ 9:06 pm...
Let me expound on my answer to your INITIAL question. "Peaceful" protestors are not "Peaceful" if they are committing a crime. So, should protesters and everyone for that matter, should absolutely report a crime to which you are a witness. People who take ADVANTAGE of a protest and vandalize and/or riot should be reported.
Point well taken @Bronx ATR
12:19 your point is taken. But I must add cops are facing worse right now.... and they got they're overtime back because they tend to stick together to get things done. Teachers who turn their backs on colleagues enable abuse and in my opinion that makes them cowards. You give them understanding. You're free to.
@6:42...
So in your opinion what should these cowardly(your word) teachers do to be treated better or with respect?
https://thechiefleader.com/news/news_of_the_week/principal-who-covered-up-assaults-removed/article_41549508-eebf-11ea-b803-7fb9e81fc32d.html#utm_source=thechiefleader.com&utm_campaign=%2Fnewsletters%2Fheadlines%2F%3F-dc%3D1599514217&utm_medium=email&utm_content=read%20more
DeB, Carranza and all principals are hiding violent incidents. So many teachers I know have been assaulted. My buddy is a lawyer, he has more than 100 in the Bronx alone.
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