Tuesday, December 14, 2021

EXECUTIVE BOARD VOTES 99-1 AGAINST ELECTRONIC VOTING IN UFT ELECTION; ARBITRATION ON SPRING BREAK PAY ONGOING; MULGREW SAYS PRIVATIZED HEALTHCARE ISN'T PRIVATIZED

 Arthur Goldstein has a very interesting report from last night's UFT Executive Board meeting up at NYC Educator.

The Executive Board voted approximately 99-1 against electronic voting for the upcoming UFT election. Here is what Arthur wrote in his report (with my notes on who is Unity and who is not in parenthesis). The debate is on allowing electronic voting in addition to mail-in balloting for the upcoming UFT election:

Michael Shulman--(Election Committee member; Head of New Action, not on Executive Board)Thanks LeRoy Barr for invitation. Thanks Carl Cambria for chairing. Wants to discuss balloting. Favors voting electronically due to low voter turnout. That is key. Not a caucus issue. Big issue is getting membership to participate. Important to be proud of union democracy. We are not moving with the times. About 25% of our membership vote. That is unacceptable. There have been proposals to GOTV, but we are lagging. 

Since pandemic, our union uses secure electronic voting for DA, for CL, for SBOs. Not a radical new proposal. Other public sector unions doing this. We have capability, not as sole source. We could use both. If someone votes both, we could distinguish which came first and that would take precedence. 

I come from older generation. I believe many younger teachers use electronic voting. Snail mail alien to them. 

Akeel Williams(Unity Caucus member)--As far as us moving toward electronic voting, no real proof that it will guarantee more turnout. Maybe we could do this for next election cycle. Wouldn't be vetted and ready for Spring. 

(Another Unity member)--During pandemic used electronic voting for chapters. No evidence it increased participation. 


Mike Schirtzer (Independent)--Agrees with Shulman. PSC (Professional Staff Congress-CUNY union) has option of online voting. We are in a battle to enfranchise folks who lost right to vote. Eric Adams is looking to union bust. Need to show we are strongest and best union. DA and Town Hall numbers are staggering. We trust AAA to get it right. Teachers under 30 don't know where mailboxes are. Need to open options. 

Pat Crispino (Unity)--Respectfully disagrees. Today got email from DOE email, though everyone knows not to do this. We will be repping our members who use DOE apparatus when teaching. Opposes change.

Rashad Brown(Unity)--Opposes recommended change. Electronic voting has had issues. Many don't get emails or text. Not there yet. 

Servia Silva (Unity)--Opposes change. Had lower participation for SBOs and CL elections. Paper had much more. Calendar was voted on.

Mike Sill(Unity)--We don't know what's coming with new admin, or pandemic. Moment of instability not good to make change. Election season already begun. If we face hostile admin, we don't want voting called into question. Not time to experiment. 

Tom Murphy (Unity)--Sympathetic to anything that will increase turnout. Retirees had larger turnout because of controversial issue. To get vote out, we should campaign. 

The Executive Board then voted with only Schirtzer dissenting to have exclusive mail-in balloting. Mike and Mike were too polite to make the argument that Unity, just like the Republican Party, is very much for suppressing the vote. They know that they would be taking a very big chance if there was voting in the schools or electronic voting as more people might vote to throw Unity out.

Mike Schirtzer pointed out to me later that the 99% to 1% vote illustrates how the UFT Executive Board does not represent the membership. Seriously, if you asked 100 UFT members if there should be electronic voting, I very much doubt 99 of them would say no unless they were 99 Unity Caucus members. 

We need to vote to oust Mulgrew and his entire caucus.  After spending four months negotiating within United for Change, I can guarantee you that there will be robust debate if we were elected to run the UFT.

In other Executive Board news, the arbitration for Spring Break 2020 pay is underway.

Once again we turn to Arthur's report:

Spring break--Arbitration going on. Five unions involved. We are first. Others will follow. Cannot go into details, but we have made clear we must receive the value of our work. Arbitrator concerned about money. Car day not equivalent. Two for one upon retirement. We need value of 7 days work, which we did. Expecting to know something by next week.

Finally, today I want to define the word privatization for President Michael Mulgrew:

Privatization-the transfer of a business, industry, or service from public to private ownership and control.

This is from Medicare.gov:

Original Medicare:

Original Medicare is coverage managed by the federal government.

Now for Medicare Advantage:

Medicare Advantage is Medicare-approved plan from a private company that offers an alternative to Original Medicare for your health and drug coverage. 

Mulgrew from his report last night, via Arthur, on the new Medicare (dis)Advantage plan Mulgrew is touting for city retirees that a judge has delayed the start date:

People say we're privatizing health care. Ridiculous.

What does Mulgrew call it when Medicare-eligible retirees are switched to an Advantage plan administered by  Blue Cross and Emblem Health (private entities) rather than staying in government-administered Medicare for 80% of their coverage?

Many city retirees are choosing to stay in government-administered Medicare that will now cost them almost $400 a month for a wife and husband to avoid going through bureaucratic gatekeepers Medicare Advantage Plus (Mulgrewcare) requires to get medically necessary procedures approved. The cost for the current original Medicare plan is $0 after reimbursements. Keep up the hands off our healthcare fight folks.

36 comments:

Anonymous said...

Listening to MM on UFT Retirees chapter meeting as I read this. Liar, liar, pants on fire!!!!

Anonymous said...

We need to find the closest mailbox to 52 Broadway and hold a press conference where a ton of teachers who hate Mulgrew will show up to vote against him and put their ballot in.

ed notes online said...

I like the idea anon -- we hold a get out the vote rally - or a series of rallies.

Anonymous said...

328 Great idea!

Anonymous said...

I would love to attend a let's get rid of Mulgrew event. We need to get more coverage so that members know there are real options instead of -Teachers want to work a longer day for the kids Mulgrew and CO. As they sit at home on Zoom.

Anonymous said...

Teachers do not want to work longer days. Mulgrew is clueless.
He does not know what teachers want. I hope enough teachers want
Mugrew out and vote him out soon.

JR said...

2 things.

1...How about 14 CAR days for the 7 workdays? That wouldn't be any immediate cost to NYC. Just would have to figure out what happens to the few people who have 200 days already...

2. There was a fairly large change for retirees which the UFT decided not to share very clearly. As of last July, if you die, the TDA money can no longer stay in the TDA, it must be taken out immediately and given to whoever. Big change, don't you think?

Anonymous said...

The Chief used to highlight unions that had restricted voting. It's a common tactic to suppress the vote.

Anonymous said...

Banks said he wouldn't make any big education decisions without community and parent input first as opposed to Bloomberg who did what he wanted.

Anonymous said...

Voter suppression is Mulgrew's meal ticket to winning re-election.

My prediction is that Mulgrew will be pimping for Eric Adams after he wins re-election.

Anonymous said...

The UFT is very much like Trump and the Republican party with their efforts to suppress voter
turnout.

Anonymous said...

I stood in line for 2 hrs to early vote in 2020. Had I waited until Election Day I would have been in line for only 10 minutes. My point is if you want to vote in a UFT election all you have to do is stick your ballot in a mailbox. If that’s too much trouble for anyone, they deserve to be disenfranchised.

Anonymous said...

600.. or, crazy concept, have options available!

Anonymous said...

Everyone should email or call Martin Scheinman's office he is the arbitrator. See if he works for free? info@scheinmanneutrals.com or 516-944 1700

Anonymous said...

I think Mike Shulman and Mike Schirtzer are right, there is a generation gap as far as using regular mail and even finding/using mailboxes. This is not a slight, just reality. The hybrid method is the most inclusive.

This can be an organizing issue for the opposition. Did you know that you can place a stamped envelop in your mailbox (the personal box at your house or apt. where you pick up your mail) and the mail carrier will bring it to the post office for you? How about having a raffle at school? Everyone who brings in a sealed, filled out ballot gets a ticket a chance to win a prize.

Lemons can be turned into lemonade!

Anonymous said...

For the love of it all, if you want Mulgoon out, go mail your friggin' ballot!

Anonymous said...

We are paying for UFT insurance now? There is a charge of $28 on my checks fro 11?4/21 on up

Anonymous said...

If you notice, all the criticism of the new Medicare Advantage plan are based upon absolutely no facts or examples. I heard a presentation by a Welfare Fund rep and it sounds like the plan is equal to, or better, than the one we have now. It may turn out not to be, but so far, none of the criticism is fact based. It's just based on the idea that if it saves the city money, then it must be worse plan. That is not a reasoned argument. It might be intuitive, but that's no basis for an argument. We'll know by next year, I guess.

Anonymous said...

What us uft insurance??

Anonymous said...

2:32, Higher co-pays and gatekeepers for procedures is not a better plan. You must be in Unity Caucus.

Anonymous said...

232 if you notice all the criticism of Medicare Advantage is completely fact based and there are many examples. take the time while you're on the web to educate yourself on it before coming here with ridiculous statements.

Anonymous said...

232. we need to expand traditional medicare, and include supplemental coverage. we do not need to be fattening the pockets of private insurers, allowing them to be middle men between us and our doctors, and jeopardizing the only form of public healthcare we have.

https://www.kff.org/medicare/issue-brief/cost-related-problems-are-less-common-among-beneficiaries-in-traditional-medicare-than-in-medicare-advantage-mainly-due-to-supplemental-coverage/

waitingforsupport said...

@2:32 pm... we certainly will know next year. Hopefully no member will succumb to an illness that the plan deems not covered. I just don't understand why change to something that is equal to what you're changing from. The only complaints about Medicare are coming from the City. That in and of itself is suspicious to me. I've worked since i was 14. I won't be eligible for Medicare for another 8 years. I guess i will have to just pay for it. This sh^t is a working class person's nightmare.

Anonymous said...

Co-pays are the same as regular Medicare starting this year. . Pre-authorization of MRIs etc are typical. In service members have that in GHI. No big deal. Anything else?

Anonymous said...

Yeah, for starters: Retirees never saw the actual contract/policy. Retirees did not know that scores of procedures were completely omitted. When in service people voted several years ago, all of this was kept secret. Retirees resent inservice making so-called decisions about their health care. (Please know that in municipal unions, retirees are no longer members, but belong to a separate retiree organization. "Decisions" made by MM without retirees input have also negatively affected retirees from other job titles/unions. Other union retirees are as angry with MM as our own retirees. MM is still gaslighting members, right through 3 public appearances this week alone. Follow the unfolding court case, get a clue. You will learn what we are in for...soon!

P.S. MM also had the Executive Board vote down the hybrid voting proposal, already in use by unions locally and nationally. MM controlled all those votes, as nearly everyone on ExecBd has some kind of paid role in the UFT and is a Unity Party member, sworn to vote as the President decrees. Other unionists in the city are appalled by what they are witnessing.

Anonymous said...

My extra life insurance through the union is deducted this way. It is deducted from 20 of the 24 checks.

Anonymous said...

My extra life insurance through the union is deducted this way. It is deducted from 20 of the 24 checks.

Anonymous said...

502. https://www.cityandstateny.com/policy/2021/12/it-finally-finally-year-new-york-health-act/359763/ ...A Union leader that supports this, not one that goes against what a majority of delegates voted for and what a majority of members want.

Anonymous said...

5:02 We don't want more privatized healthcare. The move is to expand Medicare, not give more to the private insurers. Mulgrew supports privatizing because it is good for his pockets and his clout within the city business community. This makes his retirement better, not ours.

Anonymous said...

6:38 that’s ok in service resent that retirees get to vote for our leadership when they aren’t in the classrooms anymore. See the door swings both ways.

Anonymous said...

I found this article helpful. The title says WV, but it seems like general info.

To be honest, as a state retiree, I paid for family healthcare out of every paycheck and still do as a retiree. It takes a big chunk of my pension. I think the real question for city teachers is not Medicare or MA, but does the city to continue to pay, no matter what (if that's what you bargained for). Will the city pay or not? If this isn't the question, then retiree benefits are just a contract concession that Unity may come to regret.

Anonymous said...

@12:25 where the hell does that come from voter suppresion? LOoks like plenty of cheating from the dems as normal. We have a weak resident puppet in office. The media has tried covering and silencing all his mistakes and you still talking about TRump?

Cuomo gone cnn cuomo gon, maddow leaving, lemon about to be gone. You see whats happening here all your fake media are gone bye bye!!!!!

Anonymous said...

9:41,

Every hurdle to voting is voter suppression- at every level. The Chief chronicles all kinds of union stories, including when union leadership is working against union members.

Right now, we live in a 24 hour, technology driven society. When "leaders" (political and otherwise), pretend that everyone has the same schedule, access to transportation, and familiarity with the process- then some constituents are left out. We live in a democracy- we all have the right to participate- not have artificial barriers put in our way.

waitingforsupport said...

502... so then the only difference is that the city saves money?

Unknown said...

Where did this change for tda beneficiaries come from? Where is this written? This is a very big change.

Anonymous said...

10:53 - excellent point. Way too sophisticated in thinking for the redhat you're responding to.