Friday, May 15, 2020

CDC GUIDELINES FOR OPENING SCHOOL BUILDINGS DURING COVID-19 PANDEMIC


Let's be real honest and open here: Can the New York City Department of Education meet these CDC (Centers for Disease Control) guidelines for opening school buildings? There are some lawyerly "as/if feasible" in here but overall these guidelines might not be so easy to meet in NYC. 

Some examples:

How do we protect high risk students and employees?

Who is in charge of screening "of students and employees upon arrival for symptoms and history of exposure?"

Who needs to be satisfied that the school has met its obligation to "intensify cleaning, disinfection and ventilation?"

Any thoughts?

27 comments:

Anonymous said...

Principals will declare it safe and you sheep (teachers) will run into expose yourselves to COVID-19 like you did in March.

Anonymous said...

The DOE track record is an indicator for negligent public health management.

Consider, the testing of lead in the drinking water in the schools. Consider the light fixtures and the toxic ballasts. Consider the many other building health issues that have been "swept under the rug"' Consider the deaths that resulted from keeping the schools open in March.

Lets be realistic here. If there is no organizational liability for the DOE and the death of pedagogues saves the DOE money, how can the DOE be held accountable?



Anonymous said...

Britain Daily Mail

"Magnificent staff across the nation are desperate to help children get back to the classroom - but militant unions are standing in their way. To them, The Mail implores...Let Them Be Heroes."

Response from teacher:

This is a lie. There is no “row between teachers and unions”: 92% of @NEUnion members say they don’t feel safe.

The unions *are* the teachers. By refusing to put themselves at risk they are acting in all our interests - and for that, they are heroes. https://t.co/QqfJIdVhUe

Going back is going to be a left-right issue it looks like.

Anonymous said...

CDC guideline will be adhered to just like the UFT contract is, not at all.

Anonymous said...

Exactly and what do we do when students break the rules and refuse to wear their masks? We can't put them all into the auditorium and we can't send them home, and then they'll use the same old song, "Well we can't deny them an education." Also, if they want to social distance in a classroom, you can't have more than 8 students per classroom. How is that going to work even with staggered schedules?

Anonymous said...

The same way my school enforces no cell phones, late policy , building discipline, cutting.
WE give the students another chance. Get Real!

The same way the DOE respects the UFT legal contract! Get Real1

TJL said...

James points out the tough questions but unfortunately Unity and the DOE aren't answering them. Where's the MOA?

I actually think that the CDC school recommendations are fairly easy to adhere to, if the will is there to figure it out. Just for instance in 30 seconds I came up with, for column 2, the portable handwashing stations that are at zoos, outdoor concerts & festivals, for column 3, borrow from Home Depot and the supermarkets, 10 extra CAR days for starters. Certainly the 6-figure army at Central ought to be able to come up with something

I think the transit ones are far more difficult:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/pdf/MassTransit-DecisionTree.pdf

A major problem for HS is the destruction of the traditional neighborhood comprehensive HS and students travelling all over on MTA buses and subways to get to school. AM/PM shifts for elementary and 6th graders will require extra $$ to the yellow bus companies both for the extra runs and lower capacity on the buses.

Anonymous said...

If my sorry ass is going to be going into a death camp in September, I want Danielson gone and I want a return to S/U. The fact is we are going to be spending 75% or our day telling kids to stay away from each other and to keep their masks on. This is going to be shitty babysitting 101.

Anonymous said...

Im not going from staten island to manhattan on public during this time

TJL said...

2:52 is right about Danielson and really anything having to do with group work should be rated N/A by the Admin. This needs to be part of any MOA. (The City won't let go of its Danielson obsession but if something can't be done it can't be done.)

As for the other part I'm spending 0% of my time on that. It's not my problem or responsibility. If Admin breaks your chops over that, push back.

Anonymous said...

Do you plan on driving 3:18?

Anonymous said...

Don't take off your mask Joey. Joey shouts out with mostly spit, "Fuck you Mr Teacher." Now what? A very realistic encounter.

Anonymous said...

Im 318, drive into manhattan and park where? At what cost? They better find another placement for me. Or not open schools.

Anonymous said...

Good luck on the bullshit open market.

Anonymous said...

Open market fraud. Uft has done nothing to assist.

Anonymous said...

Stop expecting the UFT to save us. There are enough of us where we can do it ourselves. This reopening is a good start.

TJL said...

3:18/3:56, I had to drive in for about a month while I recovered from an operation. The parking ended up costing more than my copays. If the City is serious it has to get over its "green" BS and reinstitute the parking passes and designate more spaces for staff during school hours. Otherwise it's a no-go. And I'm one of the more pro-opening people. Private industry and other cities and states are adapting so we can get back to living. The City has to get out of its orthodoxy if it doesn't want to be left behind.

Anonymous said...

Do not count on the DOE!
Do not count on the UFT!

Count on the likelihood of a 2nd wave in September.

The infection rate of the virus is a metric for STUPID POLITICIANS!

NY CITY is A number one, \king of the hill, top of the heap... for COVID Infections

Anonymous said...

NIH SAYS INVESTIGATIONAL CHADOX1 NCOV-19 VACCINE PROTECTS MONKEYS AGAINST COVID-19 PNEUMONIA

Anonymous said...

How are we saving ourselves during this re-opening?

Anonymous said...

My friend was observed for one of his live teaching lessons. Since live teaching is not mandated, there is no way this can hold up if it’s a bad observation. Is this correct?

Another reason why the UFT has failed. We have needed a MOA for remote learning.

Principals are sneaky and will do what they can do to get one over.

Anonymous said...

By walking out of any and all dangerous buildings if there is a second wave and not waiting for Mulgrew to tell us it's okay. Our lives are more valuable than this job.

Anonymous said...

OMGoodness, heck no. The NYC DOE cannot meet the expectations of these guidelines.

Anonymous said...

No they will not and we all know it. Now what? Rebel sheep!

Disgusted in Queens said...

The CSC does not take into account fire drills or safety drills. Even if classes are cut in half, how can we distance students 6 feet apart AND leave the building in a timely manner. We will be backed up from the floors above and below us. This does not work in NYC where schools go up rather than out. Also, lock downs drills, how can we hide students from the view of the door while social distancing? Again, even if we have 12 students we cannot hide 12 students 6 feet apart while not being seen from the classroom door. For this reason alone it is not safe.

Anon2323 said...

The Bronx Science school and top Manhattan schools will get cleaned very well with parental pressure, schools inn the south bronx, areas in Brooklyn will get somewhat cleaned but nothing remotely in the ballpark for a safe return.

Kind of glad teaching will go more towards teacher centered classes. So many colleges who are doing group work and student centered lol.

Anonymous said...

4:16 I never thought of those things and they are mandated by the doe. Good thinking.