The UFT's endorsed mayoral candidate Eric Adams tonight said the following as reported by the NY Times:
I know we have the Triborough Amendment to the Taylor Law that would keep the terms of the current contract in place if there isn't a new one.
That said, how is it possible that the UFT supports a candidate for mayor who talks pay cuts for city workers?
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Has he ever said this before? In other words, perhaps at the time that the UFT supported him he hadn't said anything like this.
Can he do that without negotiations??or will mulgrew play along?if he admits this now, imagine what else he will do! On the other hand, unfortunately, dibozo squandered so much money away..if we don't vote on a contract, at least we don't get wage losses, right?(I'm not talking about inflation;that compounds it all.)what about fas? That goes down?? Constipated bastard!
I’m only in year 4 but am burned out. I am thinking of a career change. I have my MS in Special Education, bilingual and early education extension.
What careers could possibly pay similarly to teaching?
Um...Students graduate unable to read and write. Students pass while never showing up and/or interacting with a teacher. How much money would you like to be paid for that?
UNITY is truly incompetent. It's run by a fool who needs things explained to him with crayons. Can't see this happening as city workers would revolt. I don't know how we see any decent or fair raises in the next possible 8 years though. What a sad place the city has become.
Why endorse? Because the UFT works for the democrat party who is okay with pay cuts. If you don’t want to work with a pay cut there are tens of thousands of migrants illegally crossing the border who will gladly take your job for less money. Their “lived experience” will be enough to rubber stamp a teaching degree with 2 weeks training.
Politics 101. The public hates city workers, so make a threat you know won’t happen.
As an aside, retirees cannot be happy...
https://blindarchive.substack.com/p/the-vengeful-specter-of-cuts-to-medicare-advantage
Mulgrew plays along because he is on the take. Mulgrew does not put members first. We pay his salary but did he keep teachers out of buildings last September?
Chicago did
LA did
Why not NYC?
Because he puts his needs first saying its for the students. We have families and children too. What we wanted never comes first.
The writing is on the wall. How can we keep what we get paid? Adams will make us work longer days and a longer school year for pennies on the dollar if anything. Mulgrew will say his usual "it's best for city students", no concern what is best for members.
Someone would be crazy or desperate to ever start teaching for the doe it todays system.
As predicted, mulgrew will trumpet how great of a contract 0% pay increase is.
555,
Don’t fall for the fear mongering. Every mayoral election, they promise the public nonsense. I don’t know how they say it without laughing because none of it ever happens. It’s politics lesson one. Lie, lie and lie more until you are elected. The way the news cycle works, nobody remembers what you said any way.
I do agree on how anyone who enters the doe as a new person is nuts.
ERI next year to reduce many senior teachers and hire many new teachers. You can cut pay a lot.
Yes, it would make sense for people to start teaching here with one exception:IT IS A GREAT SALARY FOR THE UNQUALIFIED, UNSKILLED WORKERS WITH NO LOANS WHO ARE BEING FAST TRACKED AND WILL UNDERCUT US.IT STILL PAYS MORE THAN A STORE. IE WILL TRAIN AND FAST TRACK, LOTS OF VACATIONS.
Veterans may remember the doe hiring meme.you breathe on a mirror.if it fogs up, you got the job! And of course, WE JUST NEED A BODY!
Seems like all the work to get better qualified teachers has gone into the dungeon.mext they will also have college students driving the trains, as well as teaching.
Not prejudice, but just read that now illegal migrants are being dispersed without vaccines if they come from a poor country.but meanwhile, some of us are forced to be on unpaid leave, vax, or retire.seems like Biden caters to the foreigners while trashing his own people.is this about votes or about levying people to be beholden to him?How much longer will we be able to remain here before the working people are the minority and our hard earned benefits won't be granted cuz there isn't a working class paying in?
11:43 PM,
It is a real tragedy that so many teachers spend many years and money taking the courses necessary to become teachers, then going through the ridiculous process required by NYS and NYC, only to find that the teaching profession has become a joke. Teaching for the NYC DOE is not going to improve anytime soon. For those who really care about teaching and educating children, the job will only physically and mentally beat you into compliance, mediocrity or quitting.
One option is to get an administrative license and become and administrator.
Another option is to look for a teaching position in a private school or outside of NYC.
A third option is to seek an out of classroom position such as an attendance teacher, a dean, a literacy specialist, resource room, etc.
A fourth option is to get a speech license or ENL. You would work with fewer children and can return the children to their class if they do not cooperate.
A fifth option, which I probably see the most but is also immoral, is to just go through the motions and do your best to not care. Do what is asked, pass everyone, take nothing personally, put on a good show when needed, play the game, save some money.
You can always quit and see another career.
Neither candidate said anything about the graduation fraud going on in the city and the corrupt principals or the violence going on in school. Silwa touched upon getting rid of the top bureaucrats in the doe but neither really touched on these other pressing issues. Also, Silwa said he would give more power to the principals which would be deadly for teachers.
Sounds like Bloomberg is mentoring Adams already.
There won’t be any cuts in pay. But expect layoffs come June 2022 along with false hopes of any ERI, a hiring freeze too, and expect a continuation of the current contract to drag on past the September 2022 expiration—with stalled 0% wages that could last indefinitely And there’s. Mulgrew making false promises of retro pay when a new contract is finally made. This sort of sounds familiar.
Just be prepared to have a 3% cut in salary based on keeping the current healthcare that city will claim they can no longer afford for it’s in service members come January 1, 2023. And the MLC that includes Mulgrew will bend over backwards and shove these new plans down it’s members throats.
I am fine with cutting my pay 3 percent as long as we get rid of the bullshit Monday and Tuesday time.
After the billions in Federal aid are squandered, the City will claim that the pandemic caused huge losses in tax revenue, and it will be time for a weak new contract and cuts. At least for teachers, - while at the same time, Charter schools will probably be praised as the alternative to public education.
8:00 Where do you get that ENL teachers have fewer students? High School ENL teachers have classes like everyone else. Also, I know a lot of people in administration who are miserable too because of the way their principal treats them. I say yes to the layoffs. They will layoff the neophytes which will be doing them a favor. They are not vested yet and sometimes you need a kick in the ass to find something better which they will.
Having so much fun reading these dumb comments. I've learned to really relax as the years pass. 2 informals this year. 150K with per session. Stop complaining! Who's the most miserable on here? Maybe change the blog name to UFT Miserable People Blog?
8:00 am,
What’s immoral about playing the game and passing most kids and putting on the good face?
It’s a game. Hate to say it.
I was 1143 when I was 25 and I had the papers filled out to quit in year two. Glad I didn’t.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not a big fan of the job, but I don’t kilo myself anymore and have less stress at age 45 than I did at age 25
Ten more to go until a pension.
I was beaten down so much for caring my first two years by APs, kids complaining and being backstabbed by colleagues. Couldn’t take it anymore.
I decided after I moved schools to play the game.
Am I a good teacher? Probably not. Do I pass all the kids? Yes. Do I have issues with APs and principals anymore? No.
I play the game and don’t snitch on anyone. That’s what you do.
11:44 It won't pass as long as these gullible dumbasses who keep voting Mulgrew in and vote for the contract don't let it pass.
So it seems that DeBlasio maybe wasn’t too bad for teachers as so many commenters complained about him and Mulgrew.
Since DeBlasio took office—3 extra paid holidays for teachers—the Asian New Year,
a Muslim holiday, and Juneteenth—which is now a state holiday. These are nice days off for students too, as long as they fall on weekdays—just like the Jewish holidays in the early fall season.
As was said above, as long as they get rid of the extended day, I personally won't be affected. Less pay for the same work? No way. But we might even break even if we can do more per session on Mondays/Tuesdays.
But with inflation where it stands, a 3-5% cut is much more than 3-5%. Why not say...raise taxes on billionaires and multimillionaires who are sitting on their money anyways instead of put the working/middle class in a potentially terrible position?
734 said "they turk err jerbs"
Adams should start with cutting pay to the Sanitation workers that have deliberately slowed down garbage pick ups in Staten Island and Brooklyn —due to vaccine mandates—which is obviously tied to city vaccine mandates. DeBlasio says he plans to look into this situation—-which is really more of a garbage collection crisis—and has the potential to get worse.The press has really been quiet about this ongoing situation.
Imagine if teachers decided to do a slowdown as well—only do half of their required responsibilities and work. Their pay would be docked immediately and the union would be threatened with financial ruin.
I support sanitation. I am against the mandate.all the politicians are bought.the only way to be heard is through violence(very much against) or job actions.look at the health workets.they cared for covid patients with no vaccine, insufficient ppe and now people make them the enemy.fiblasio respects nobody.not unions, not small businesses, nobody.if we all came together, he would have to eat shit from our hands.at least they have a backbone.everyone needs to feed their families, but threats and coercion warrant drastic pushback.i bet this is a warm up, hinting at a walk out, which hurts all.fuck diblasio, like they say.he drives us deeper into ruin daily.its his ego.
This piece of shit Adams better not lower anyone’s salary! This fuck face is the same guy that as a congressman working 6 months and making 79000 was screaming on video in the assembly that it’s poverty wages. All while collecting a big pension from the NYPD. None of you should be willing to take any pay cut not even for a shorter day! Have some of you lost your minds? Curtis is loon and not the answer but unless Mulgrew grows a huge set of balls we will be fucked with Adams as mayor. We need to vote for one of the independents !!!!!!!
Vote for Cathy Rojas
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dailypolitics/show-money-blog-entry-1.1669448%3foutputType=amp
Silwa wants to cut the bloat at top of DOE and put money into classrooms and give principals AND teachers more funds and power. He also wants to dismantle thrive nyc. He may be a loon but is way better for teachers than Adams.
6:22 nicely said !
Great points 6:22.but the crooked media won't call him out.maybe they want nyc to implode and have martial law...big apple turns to rotten applesauce...or maybe ale
Looks to me as if some of our uniformed unionists are working to contract. For instance, collecting garbage on narrow streets: rather than doing two passes, one in each direction, they collect both sides as the same time, and even the driver gets out and tosses cans/bags. Not a safety problem, since the streets are too narrow for passing once a sanitation truck arrives. Now first collection (two separate passes) is running 10-12 hours late, with the recyclables about 6 hours later.
Something for educators to think about...
7:10 "he may be a loon, but". What??
I cannot find any reporting on this 3-5% pay cut in NYT.
I took a picture of it and posted it 8:06.
UFT members who resent sanitation workers are not pro worker or pro union. We should be more like them instead of resenting them. I’m old enough to remember the garbage strike and piles of garbage lining the curbs. I was a kid but I remember my parents being on the side of the sanitation workers and saying that the garbage on the curbs was the mayor’s fault. Teachers have always thought they’re better than working class garbage men. We’re not.
THe situation is crazy in the schools. The drama is through the roof...kids are complaining about everything under the sun and the drama is crazy looney booney...I feel sorry for the small group of kids that actually want an education. Remote learning might prove to be the best option for many kids who cannot control themselves in social settings...the classroom the school in general kids constantly butting heads with each other. Lines of kids waiting for suspension meetings, group meetings...wasted time spent where as on line learning is all business less the drama........
I noticed that there was not ONE mention of the pay cut on any NYC Teacher Facebook pages that I frequent. I guess the word did not get out. Of course the UFT has said zero about Adams' quote about the 3-5% pay cut. At least we can assume that a longer school day or year is now gone.
Good luck know to anyone who follows and has to clean up this stoners mess. It will take 20 years to recover from the damage done by this imbecile.
Here Here. But it needs to be pushed in the State first. Reach out to you state legislatures now to get the ball rolling.
Push the Union for another ERI, this time for real.
Silwa looks like he would close underperforming schools and give principals more power to fire teachers. He also looks like he would bring back the ATR pool if he couldn't fire teachers and use it as a threat like they did in the past. Teachers get banished to the ATR pool if they don't obey their administrators.
There is no big difference between Sliwa and Adams as far as schools/ teaching are concerned. Sliwa deserves a chance to clean up the city. I don’t see Adams getting crime under control.
Sliwa is another red hat wearing fool who can't even get his facts straight during a debate before disparaging someone:
"Still, for Rodriguez, the bigger slight came from Sliwa. Calling the right to vote a privilege that should only be kept to U.S. citizens, he wrongly portrayed Rodriguez as a green card holder. "You have to ask yourself why after all this time would Ydanis Rodriguez not want to be a citizen of the United States?" he said.
In a tweet, Rodriguez said he became a citizen in 2000 and has "been voting ever since."
"He also said he would cut from the Department of Education, which received $38 billion in the current fiscal year."
We also said u f t stands for Union of failed teachers
DOE central admin is surely bloated. I know people who work there and was informed that after Caranza came, hiring of big chiefs was rampant and they came in with huge salaries to start out. It's a racquet that goes on and they get away with it too. Someone needs to seriously clean house. Unfortunately it seems like this will just go on for another 4 years.
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