A majority of the City Council including Speaker Robert Johnson have now signed Education Committee Chair Mark Treyger's letter to Chancellor Meisha Porter seeking a remote option for the fall for NYC public schools.
The key part:
With growing uncertainties of the Delta variant and as we wait for a vaccine to be developed and approved for distribution to children 12 years old and under, we cannot force parents to send their children into the classroom. I urge the Department of Education (DOE) to offer a remote option in the fall for kids who are not of vaccination age and also for immunocompromised students.
Pressure is also building from teachers and parents as the petition that we helped create that calls for a remote option in NYC schools, mandated vaccines, and other demands for a safe reopening has now surpassed 5,000 signatures at change.org.
In addition, we now have a medical doctor supporting the petition's demands.
Finally,Bloomberg of all places, has an article on the remote option.
Parents speak out:
It is creating, in my opinion, an inflexible system that denies, inhibits or limits participation by parents and the community,” said Tom Sheppard who represents the presidents of the city’s 32 local Community Education Councils. “For me, that is unacceptable.” Sheppard said thousands of parents have signed petitions pleading for a remote option in the event the virus spreads to their children’s schools.
Jennifer Goddard, a Sheepshead Bay mother of a 9-year-old son with asthma, and an overactive immune disorder, called the back to school plan “unimaginably cruel.” Her son, who’s been hospitalized with the flu in the past, enrolled virtually last year and thrived academically. “You are willing to send him back into a dangerous situation and leaving parents like me no alternative but to choose between his education or his life,” Goddard said.
71 comments:
Another one bites the dust:
"Nashville radio station SuperTalk 99.7 WTN confirmed Phil Valentine's death in a tweet Saturday.
Valentine had been a skeptic of coronavirus vaccines. But after he tested positive for COVID-19, and prior to his hospitalization, he told his listeners to consider, “If I get this COVID thing, do I have a chance of dying from it?” If so, he advised them to get vaccinated. He said he chose not to get vaccinated because he thought he probably wouldn’t die.
After Valentine was moved into a critical care unit, Mark Valentine said his brother regretted that “he wasn't a more vocal advocate of the vaccination.”
NYC parents and students should have freedom of choice when it comes to education. It is that simple. The NYC DOE should not dictate what is best to parents. The students do not belong to the NYC DOE. Essentially, the DOE wants to hold students hostage, but many parents and students like choice. They want the freedom to decide what is best for themselves and not some disconnected educrat.
Many parents and students want an alternative to full time in-person learning. Why does the NYC DOE want to go back to the way things were before the pandemic? The system was not working on so many levels for so many students. During the pandemic many schools, essentially abandoned by the DOE, created their own successful alternate hybrid education models. These models arose out of necessity, but if given time to mature can provide a superior education for the children of NYC.
Now is the time, blaze a new path and to create a new hybrid system that truly meets the needs of parents and students in a dynamic way.
What is the worst that could happen? Having happy and engaged parents and students. Higher graduation rates. Reenergized teachers and administrators. Who wants that?
DeBalsio does not give a shit about the City Council.
"Consider a new state-by-state analysis of reopening policies by the nonprofit Center on Reinventing Public Education. The analysis shows that many states have urged localities to return to in-person schooling while promoting policies that conflict with the goal of educating young people in safety. For example, as of this month, nearly one-fourth of the states had banned Covid-19 vaccination requirements, hamstringing localities that want to prioritize student safety. As of early August, only 29 states had recommended that students wear masks — down from the 44 states that did so last fall — and nine states had banned masking requirements."
"State leaders would be wise to further protect children by requiring teachers to be vaccinated — without exception. Meanwhile, parents who wish to know what proportion of the teaching staff has been vaccinated are being thwarted by the fact that only a few states are publicly reporting this information."
"A sobering report by the consulting firm McKinsey sounds a similar alarm. Among other things, it notes that the pandemic has widened existing opportunity and achievement gaps and made high schoolers more likely to drop out. As the authors say: “The fallout from the pandemic threatens to depress this generation’s prospects and constrict their opportunities far into adulthood."
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/21/opinion/covid-education-schools.html
"In the United States, a growing body of research shows that the suffering of poor children during the pandemic was compounded by the fact that their schools were more likely to remain closed than schools serving higher-income students. This left poor students more dependent on online education. A recent analysis by the National Center for Research on Education Access and Choice found that schools in districts with higher percentages of Black and Latino children were more likely to have remote schooling and that, with all other things being equal, districts with more people living in poverty “were more likely to have remote instruction.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/21/opinion/covid-education-schools.html
"Whats the worst that could happen"
The end of the profession. This is a teacher union blog. How blind can you be? Remote means the end for us. Wake up.
The neoliberal NY Times has been terrible on schools during the pandemic. Eliza Shapuro, their main education writer, is a de Blasio stenographer.
@10:49 nice rebuttal NOT.
Maybe this will be easier for you to understand, 10:50: The NY Times represents the neoliberal corporate Democrats that have botched this pandemic up almost as much as the Republicans. Quoting McKinsey. The corporate Democrat's voice.
@10:57 You're the one who is confused. You still haven't rebutted a single word of their article and throwing around terms like "neoliberals" and adding "corporate Democrats" to your follow-up doesn't add any substance to your post. My post doesn't blame Republicans over Democrats, and neither does the article. So WTF are you even complaining about? Does the shoe fit??
Sounds good but do you support freedom of choice when it comes to the vaccine. If not that would make you a self centered hipocrite
The DOE should tap their greatest resource in their retired members. I'm sure many would serve as online educators for several hours each week
1045.. remote still requires teachers, and, alongside in person schooling, would give the potential for more jobs. it was also dramatically expand IT positions.
1057 especially their horrific opinion section.
CCs in eastern Queens must have been absent when Treyger shared the word. Last year parents in my SD overwhelmingly kept kids of all ages out of school buildings. The CC who reps the bulk of the SD, who had suffered a bout of COVID, as well, does not get it. This representative seems go be way more interested in the next public job all but guaranteed by Dems hierarchy. As if the residents evaporated in 2020! Maybe term limits are not such a good thing...
IF they are going to allow teachers to do remote, it should be by Seniority. Let Seniority at least count for some thing. We worked really hard to get the years we have.
11:27 - you have the freedom to not vaccinate, and seek work elsewhere. Nobody is arresting you for not vaccinating. You are a self-centered cultist. As well as a hypocrite for that matter, because I'll bet anything you don't support a woman's right to choose.
11:50 it would require less teachers. Some of last year's remote teachers classes were packed (not that they all showed up but the roster was fuller than those of the in-person teachers).
There's already a long established program for parents like Ms. Goddard who have a legitimate need. It's the Home Instruction Schools run by D75. Although run by D75, gen ed students with a medical need participate too. It's a good per session job too for teachers.
We have a vaccine. We have access to PPE. We have more available to use than we had in 2020. Some people just won't listen and do their part to protect themselves and others. It is a tragic. How many more must die for people to get it?
Let the unvaccinated teachers do the remote teaching.
Yes-but it would be safer to let the unvaccinated stay home, no?
Vax or face the sack. Simple.
There is no arrest or fine but if you want to work in a city school, get a vaccine. It is a condition of employment. Your only hope that it isn't a mandate is resistance from Michael Mulgrew. Good luck anti vaxxers.
1:57 maybe new employees, but when we signed on, this was not a condition..we have been invested years and decades.not easy with time in to get a job elsewhere like LI.we shouldnt have to relocate, as this was not a condition of employment.nor is there an emergency.if it was, doblockhead would not promote maskless concerts.maybe for more values jobs, this would not fly...
The situation has changed since you were hired. Vax or face the sack. You don't have a right to increase the chances of me or anyone else, particularly the students, to get COVID.
Minimizing childhood Covid in the US—a play in 4 acts
Act 1️⃣ “Kids don’t get Covid”
Act 2️⃣ “Kids get Covid but don’t get ill”
Act 3️⃣ “Kids die from Covid but don’t worry, only kids with pre-existing conditions die”
Act 4️⃣ “Don’t worry, kids also die from drowning or car crashes”
@1:36 you keep beating that same tired drum. Unvaccinated should not be rewarded by being allowed to work from home. That's just B.S. If there is a mandate you choose whether you want to vaccinate or risk your job. If there is a work from home option it should be based on seniority for those who choose to. Aren't the anti-vaxxers always screeching that the vaccinated can get sick and spread it too?
TeachNY must be one of the unvaccinated because I doubt he would be advocating so strongly for others to stay home.
Why on a Union blog would someone want a colleague to face being fired?
Yes, at will employees can be forced by management to take a vaccine as a condition of employment (at least in NY) as upheld by the Courts. However why would a Union not push back? (By the way most NY municipal unions have pushed back, you can read more for yourself if you can find where NY teachers for vaccine choice go - I won't link out of respect for our host.)
Lastly, I've become consigned to the fact that I won't ever understand people's (of various persuasions) compulsion to control others. Likewise I also won't ever get the extreme risk aversion the 20% of the population preoccupied with the virus have. However can someone enlighten me as to the fear of your colleagues deciding to forego vaccination (or a booster)? How often is someone spending an extended period in your classroom or is breathing on you within 3 feet for an extended period? Even in the case of ICT, do you not spend 45 minutes in a relatively large room with even 1 other adult?
There is a name for the belief that it’s not so bad if people including young children die of Covid because they are already vulnerable due to old age, illness or disability. Eugenics. It’s a disgusting word that describes a disgusting mindset.
1:57 "maybe new employees, but when we signed on, this was not a condition". Come now, you've got to do better than that. You've invested years and decades and you think conditions should stay the same? Good lawd.
TJL, Delta is highly contagious. You can get infected easily. The data shows we will all be a little safer, not much I concede, if everyone is vaccinated.
1:21 you ask good questions. Most people don't know anyone who died from getting the virus (I emphasize "from" rather than "with"). Most Americans know people who had the virus and were fine a couple days later. Maybe it might take some people knowing someone who succumbed to it.
However also recognize that most people are not preoccupied with the virus anymore, at least not any more concerned than any baseline concern people have for all the myriad risks living life. I saw a recent poll that claimed only 1 in 5 people are very concerned, unfortunately I can't find that source, but Morning Consult says it's 2 in 5, but only 12% think it's the most important issue facing the country. (Source: https://morningconsult.com/views-on-the-pandemic/) About half of Americans don't bother taking the flu vaccine (Source: https://www.cdc.gov/flu/fluvaxview/coverage-1920estimates.htm) so I'm not surprised that more or less two-thirds of people are taking the coronavirus vaccine. (Maybe other factors are at play but it stands to reason that a stronger virus drives stronger desire to be vaccinated against it.)
Condom use is still rather low 4 decades after HIV emerged. A quarter of sexually active people between 15-44 never use a condom with casual sex partners, and only a quarter use them every time in these situations. (Source: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr105.pdf)
This is TJL and other commenters here. For scientist Trish Zornio
https://georgiarecorder.com/2021/08/18/children-are-dying-for-republican-freedom/?fbclid=IwAR2oZ5_QnQQcGBnqA7zBjbN2FB4Fiz6vkKRxvwuFbH3atv7oB2D0uYmYoRs
Apparently, the bodies of sick or dead children are not a motivator for today’s Republicans.
Then again, when were they?
When 20 children were gunned down at Sandy Hook elementary school in 2012, Republicans didn’t fight to end gun violence — they doubled down on unfettered gun access.
It feels like despite all the deaths in the past year and a half, too many American adults would still rather protect their perceived right to do whatever they please over protecting the right of a child to live.
Republican leaders — and all adults — prove me wrong.
Prove to me that mandating a thin piece of cloth over your nose and mouth isn’t too much effort to save the life of a child.
Prove to me that you’ll strongly support vaccinations, because you understand that the best path to a child’s long-term health is overcoming this pandemic as quickly as possible.
Prove to all of us that your mantra isn’t “Freedom for me, but not for thee.”
There was a time I thought protecting children and future generations was a shared value. Now, I’m not so sure — if you wouldn’t change your policies to save children before, why would you change your policies to save them now?
This school year will run as smooth as the the NYC Central park concert. One clue thru the whole thing.
There's a lot of accommodated teachers who just have become accustomed to having an easier life teaching from home. No commute, no child care, and all the other savings that come with that. I can't prove it but I believe that length of commute correlates with the odds of a teacher having an accommodation. All those Nassau, Suffolk , Westchester etc., Teachers in the suburbs are living a good life
Making that extra mortgage payment.
Extending a car's life.
Using a health condition created by unhealthy behavior.
Come on. EVERYBODY needs to be mandated back
“Vax or face the sack. Simple”
Y’all sound like a bunch of sadists with buyer’s remorse. You got played as an early adopter to mRNA tech and now you’ll probably need boosters for life. Quick buy some Pfizer stock !
Follow the science ! Follow the money !
This is from a left wing source.
https://architectsforsocialhousing.co.uk/2020/12/09/bowling-for-pfizer-whos-behind-the-biontech-vaccine/
In 1992, Pfizer agreed to pay between $165 million and $215 million to settle lawsuits arising from the fracturing of the Bjork-Shiley Convexo-Concave heart valve, which by 2012 has resulted in 663 deaths.
In 1996, Pfizer conducted an unapproved clinical trial on 200 Nigerian children with its experimental anti-meningitis drug, Trovafloxacin, without the consent of their parents and which led to the death of 11 children from kidney failure and left dozens more disabled. In 2011, Pfizer paid just $700,000 to four families who had lost a child, and set up a $35 million fund for the disabled. This cover-up was the basis to the John Le Carré book and film, The Constant Gardener.
In 2004, Pfizer’s subsidiary, Warner-Lambert, was fined $430 million to resolve criminal charges and civil liabilities for the fraudulent promotion of its epilepsy drug, Neurontin, paying and bribing doctors to prescribe it for uses not approved by the Food and Drug Administration.
In 2009, Pfizer spent $25.8 million lobbying Congressional lawmakers and federal agencies like the Department of Health and Human Services. But its expenditure on federal lobbying between 2006 and 2014 came to $89.89 million. Last year it spent $11 million lobbying the federal government.
In 2009, Pfizer set a record for the largest health care fraud settlement and the largest criminal fine of any kind, paying $2.3 billion to avoid criminal and civil liability for fraudulently marketing its anti-inflammatory drug, Bextra, which had been refused approval by the FDA due to safety concerns.
In 2010, Pfizer admitted that, in the last 6 months of 2009 alone, it had paid $20 million to 4,500 doctors in the US for consulting and speaking on its behalf, and $15.3 million to 250 academic medical centres for clinical trials.
In 2012, Pfizer paid $45 million to settle charges of bribing doctors and other health-care professionals employed by foreign governments in order to win business. The Chief of the Securities and Exchange Commission Enforcement Division’s Foreign Corrupt Practices Act Unit said: ‘Pfizer subsidiaries in several countries had bribery so entwined in their sales culture that they offered points and bonus programs to improperly reward foreign officials who proved to be their best customers’.
By 2012, Pfizer had paid $1.226 billion to settle claims by nearly 10,000 women that its hormone replacement therapy drug, Prempro, caused breast cancer.
In 2013, Pfizer absolved itself of claims that its antidepressant, Effexor, caused congenital heart defects in the children of pregnant woman by arguing that the prescribing obstetrician was responsible for advising the patient about the medication’s use.
In 2014, Pfizer paid a further $325 million to settle a lawsuit brought by health-care benefit providers who claimed the company marketed its epilepsy drug, Neurontin, for purposes unapproved by the FDA.
In 2014, Pfizer paid $35 million to settle a law suit accusing its subsidiary of promoting the kidney transplant drug, Rapamune, for unapproved uses, including bribing doctors to prescribe it to patients.
In May 2018, Pfizer still had 6,000 lawsuits pending against claims that its testosterone replacement therapy products cause strokes, heart attacks, pulmonary embolism and deep vein thrombosis, and were fraudulently marketed at healthy men for uses not approved by the FDA.
This is from the CDC based on NY data. What is the big deal about getting vaccinated unless you are a whack job conspiracy theorist?
What is already known about this topic?
Real-world studies of population-level vaccine effectiveness against laboratory-confirmed SARS-CoV-2 infection and COVID-19 hospitalizations are limited in the United States.
What is added by this report?
During May 3–July 25, 2021, the overall age-adjusted vaccine effectiveness against hospitalization in New York was relatively stable (91.9%–95.3%). The overall age-adjusted vaccine effectiveness against infection for all New York adults declined from 91.7% to 79.8%.
What are the implications for public health practice?
These findings support the implementation of multicomponent approach to controlling the pandemic, centered on vaccination, as well as other prevention strategies such as masking and physical distancing.p
@3.22 and we know exactly who it is that is spouting those views. Marjorie Taylor Greene is one and leaders of her party call her the nicest, most intelligent, most wonderful person on this entire Earth. Sickening.
@3:05 "Why on a Union blog would someone want a colleague to face being fired?". Maybe because they're so nasty about it and some of them have said they don't do any work anyway. They brag about it, scoff at the rest of us and they spew their right wing propaganda behind closed classroom doors. People like that should not be working in NYC DOE's at risk students in any case.
I worked with a woman in an ICT setting. She sure knew how to play the game and was always failing the health survey. Then she actually caught the virus, so she says, and took off another 10 days or whatever it was. Took more time off after that. Other people forced to pick up the slack. Then she was already plotting how to work from home this year by claiming something about the vaccine. Always advising the students the risk of vaccine. Nope, won't feel sorry for her one bit if she's fired. And a first year teacher at that.
4:47, I fact checked with Media Bias Fact Check and then I read the obsolete piece. I thank you for printing Pfizer 's history of payouts but you might have also printed this part of the piece:
"even if it could be proven that there was a need for such a programme of mass vaccination for a virus that the data suggests is no longer present in the UK population in significant numbers and which presents no threat of overwhelming the capacity of the NHS to treat those few endangered by its development into COVID-19;"
Talk about being hopelessly wrong. B-117 and Delta still to come after this came out.
No covid in CA?
Video shows hoards of maskless people at Pelosi fundraiser https://trib.al/ldWbVrc
If you've been vaccinated, and I haven't, why do you see me as a threat to your health? Unless of course you don't believe in the vaccine and you really don't think it is effective. If that's the case then why would you try to push it on another? You are the whack job obviously
Spoken like a true vaccine nazi
Nazis always like to keep it simple.
Can some of you vaccine Nazis please answer this question?
If you have gotten the vaccine, and you believe it to be effective,then why am I, who has not been vaccinated,a threat to your health?
I can only logically conclude it's because you don't believe in the vaccine. Which brings me to the next question. Then if you don't believe in the vaccine, why are you pushing it on everyone else?
AFTER READING THAT PHIZER PIECE, HOW DO YOU TRUST THEM?remember that politicians and agencies are paid off from big pharma.huge money train.how does so m eone from pharma get to sit on fda? Remember the phizer whistleblower as well?
THE POST LISTED PAYOUTS.THERE IS NO RECOURSE OF THIS SORT FROM THE VACCINES.GEE, WHY NOT??
Also remember that these drugs were tested over years.mrna not
Just because I am a trade unionist does not mean that I am willing to support all my brothers and sisters in their incompetence and shirking. I worked very hard for 30 years in the classroom and I took very few days off from work. I was blessed to be in a good environment and thrived. But don't expect me to support others who don't want to work hard. I don't consider them to be good union brothers and sisters, they are shirkers
Everybody must work.why not let the mask refusers work with like minded staff.let the unvaxxed but masked work with like minded staff, and let vaxxed work with their like minded staff.everyone works, everyone is happy, no milking it...why not then we can stop the hate.
It will be interesting to track cases and illness comparing the groups.
It will be interesting to track cases and illness comparing the groups.
7:54 the unvaccinated are never happy about anything. They're just miserable folks looking for something else to complain about while hiding between "freedom" and "liberty" or whatever other catchphrase they pick up from their right wing media that day. They all come online parroting the exact same phrases at the same time.
Lots of shirkers even pre covid.admin creates the ass kissing shirkers.rats get away with murder while hard workers are targeted.even so, the union serves us, that is why we support it.not trying to open another fight about dues...not imposing religion, just saying if we have our faculties, ie everything works, we are here to serve.if nit, are we needed on the planet?
Educat-- Although I find your and others' use of the word Nazi offensive, I will answer your question which I have seen/heard often.
Unvaccinated people are more likely to contract the virus and more likely to spread it.
The more it spreads and replicates, the more chances there are for mutations/variants which could be worse than Delta for everyone.
Unvaccinated people are more likely to be hospitalized which puts further strain on our healthcare system. More vaccines = Less death
Being vaccinated greatly reduces the danger but we know it's not perfect.
In fact, I consider the vaccine the second line of defense.
The first line of defense is social distancing, masks, avoiding indoor gatherings, etc.
However, IF someone contracts it, the vaccine has been proven to be far more protective than being unvaccinated.
I hope that clarifies it.
Regards.
Also, to 7:45-- study and use of mRNA has been around for many years. It is the use as a vaccine against corona virus in this way that is relatively new.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/different-vaccines/mrna.html
Regards to you as well.
Teachers need to stop turning on one another and band together against the people who are putting US back in these poorly ventilated buildings.
CDC-All people should be vaccinated 6 feet apart masked and with proper ventilated.
Teachers-work with ALL UNVACCINATED elementary students, 3 feet apart(ONLY when possible) open a window in a classroom and NO fresh air in stairwells.
Does this make any sense? Crowded classrooms with small unvaccinated children is what's best for students and parents? I think it is truly sick that this is the guidance of "experts"
May the CDC rott in hell!
Anon 2323 and the other antivaxxers,
I have read what you have written and gone to every conspiracy theory site you send me to. How can I politely say that each piece is easily proven false, misleading and/or lacking context?
To be specific on tonight's link, I didn't drop dead two weeks after taking the mRNA vaccine and neither did my wife, my daughter or all of my extended family and friends who took either mRNA vaccine. Your own piece conceded that basically as many people died (very few) in the trials who took the placebo as those who took the Pfizer vaccine. On the other hand, family and friends including blogger Chaz have DIED FROM COVID-19. Although I last took a science course in college many years ago, I am quite confident that you won't die within two weeks of taking the COVID-19 vaccine. If you are afraid of mRNA, take Johnson and Johnson that is based on more established vaccine technology.
At least TJL has respect for the rules on sources. Anon2323, Doug and the others: I don't have the time nor desire to chase down and read every alt right, dark web, anti-vax piece you try to post and I will not allow this blog to be hijacked. You have had your say and I have listened to you for sure.
I know where you stand and you know where I stand. You have other places you can go to so I think it is time to end the anti-vax discussion here. As a parent of NYC public school students, a husband of a NYC teacher and someone who works part time in schools, I want everyone in those buildings vaccinated as part of the process to minimize, not stop, the spread of COVID-19 along with other mitigation strategies. It is a deadly virus and over 620,000 Americans are dead from it. Deaths are way up compared to prior years.
There is a site that caters to those who think like you do. I have been respectfully recommending for weeks that you go there.
Kindly respect the rules here. No more anti-vax stuff please unless you have a source most of the public would consider reliable.
I am always happy to discuss on email but you guys won't email as you are afraid I will find out who you are and out you which is crazy as I have never done that.
Thanks
If the hundred million who took the Pfizer shot all get sick and die from the vaccine which will have regular FDA approval in a day or so, who is going to be left to sue?
From a science teacher:
Vaccine remains the MOST EFFECTIVE WAY to protect against Covid-19 Delta variant. My simple request to my FEW friends, please STOP misleading people about vaccine.
Saturday, August
.@CDCgov @CDCDirector you issued new guidance on cruise ships advising older immunocompromised people, even if vaxed, to NOT GO!How can you honestly recommend that schools stay open, fully, under the same conditions? Cramped, overcrowded, poor air flow? #CDC #cruises #schools
https://nypost.com/2021/08/22/video-shows-hoards-of-maskless-people-at-pelosi-fundraiser/
Here’s my prediction. Within a week, a ton of people are quarantined. The first week or so of school will be a disaster of epic proportions.
In a perfect world, the doe would be vigilant with masks. Send kids home who don’t wear them. That won’t occur.
As an adult, get vaccinated and wear a mask. All you can do.
We just can’t have remote as an option. Kids haven’t been in school since March of 2020. Forget about education. That’s terrible for habit forming for a job.
This school year will be a bigger disaster than last year. My early prediction.
2:07 when has she pushed for masked outdoors?
The only thing that saved last year from being a total disaster was that so many kids did remote schooling. I did summer school and it wasn't too bad. Many kids, however, never came to school thinking all they had to do was Edmentum on-line. I think the biggest issue we are going to face at least on the high school level is kids not coming in giving the excuse that they are scared to catch Covid.
Vaccines and masks 1000%. And that’s it. Suck it up wusses. No remote option. Full tilt in September or just retire or resign or take leave of absence. Don’t keep killing the future of our students
Agreed @1:26. They say Liberals want control but they're the ones with the control issues. No masks, no self-reporting so we ALL had to wear masks, no vaccine, they cried about seeds and paint, and they cry about testing. They want to dictate all terms during a pandemic that wont die down because of their selfish ways. Fuck 'em.
@9:43, how nice of you to response to Educat so intelligently after he asked such a vile question. That same question has been posed and answered many, many times, and those who ask again are either stuck on stupid, or trolling.
He's already set on his answer and wrote this "I can only logically conclude it's because you don't believe in the vaccine. Which brings me to the next question. Then if you don't believe in the vaccine, why are you pushing it on everyone else?"
Classic strawman. He puts up a straw man "you don't believe in the vaccine", then knocks it down "if you don't believe why are you pushing it". People like him can't be reasoned with.
Educat asks an honest question. If the vaccine works as Big Pharma says it does, which is to prevent serious illness in the vaccinated, why do you care if others do not vaccinate? I’ll ask another question. If your response has to do with controlling transmission, mutations then how do you see this working exactly? Do you really think nyc or the feds or whoever can get people who don’t have a job to lose vaccinated? No one addresses this. Forcing some and not all will have the same effect as forcing none. There will still be plenty of unvaccinated causing transmission and mutations. Look at Harlem as an example. About 45% not vaccinated. They’re not all UFT members. How will you force the rest of them? No plan for that means the plan for UFT members is worthless. It may make you feel better but from a science perspective forcing vaccines on only a handful of people will not get the results you’re looking for. This move by DeBlasio is for show. He doesn’t have a way to force all the people necessary to reach a high rate in nyc. My guess, like graduation rates, they’ll just fudge the numbers to make you feel good.
@7:57 it's not an an honest question because it's already been answered several times on multiple threads. He always claimed "no one can answer this". Nope, not honest in the least. Notice he never responded here (unless you're really him) yet he asked again after the response here. LOL.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/08/31/health/covid-delta-variant-children/index.html?__twitter_impression=true
(CNN)More kids were hospitalized with Covid-19 this month than any other time this past year -- further proving how seriously the Delta variant can hit any age group.
Between August 20 and 26, an average of 330 children were admitted to hospitals every day with Covid-19, according to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
This is not an adult disease anymore': Hospitals report children in ICUs or on ventilators
'This is not an adult disease anymore': Hospitals report children in ICUs or on ventilators
That's the highest rate of new Covid-19 hospitalizations among children in more than a year -- a record that was broken several times in August, according to CDC data.
Post a Comment