Educators of NYC chimed in:
Update:
Meisha Porter's email:
Dear Colleagues,
I hope this summer is treating you well. As summer winds down and we begin to gear up for the 2021-22 school year, I hope you're all getting time to restore before heading into our year of homecoming.
This morning, the Mayor, Commissioner Chokshi and I made an important announcement about health and safety requirements for all DOE employees to ensure we are doing all we can to keep our school communities and colleagues safe. Effective September 27, all DOE employees are required to provide proof that they have received at least one dose of the COVID-19 vaccine.
Employees who have one dose but who are not fully vaccinated by September 27 will still be expected to update their records when fully vaccinated.
We encourage all staff who have not completed their COVID-19 vaccination to do so as soon as possible. More information about locations where New Yorkers can receive a vaccine for COVID-19 can be found at vaccinefinder.nyc.gov or call 877-VAX-4-NYC.
In order to provide the DOE your vaccination status, please upload proof of vaccination through the DOE’s Vaccination portal, here: https://vaccine.schools.nyc/.
For more information and updates, visit the COVID-19 Vaccination Portal page on the DOE InfoHub.
Proof of vaccination can be an image of your vaccination card, NYS Excelsior Pass, or other government record. Submitting this information will support New York City’s pandemic response and recovery efforts, and help ensure that the DOE is a safe place to work for all employees.
The privacy and security of your information will be protected by technical, physical, and administrative safeguards, including encryption. This information will be kept confidential in accordance with federal, state, and local laws. If you encounter technical issues using the Vaccination Portal, please contact the DOE Help Desk by opening a ticket online or calling 718-935-5100.
We will continue to share updates on health and safety policies and protocols for schools as well as borough and central offices leading up to the first day of school. Thank you for all you are doing to keep yourself, your loved ones, your colleagues and the students you serve safe.
In partnership,
Meisha
Meisha Porter
Chancellor, New York City Public Schools
she/her/hers
152 comments:
Notice how the Mayor is making the vaccine mandate for teachers only right now and not NYPD, FDNY, etc. He knows the UFT will bend over and take this crap while the other unions will fight it. He could have just as easily made a blanket vaccine mandate for all municipal workers but he carefully chose not too.
Schools are about to open so I can see why teachers would be first, especially with voices for a remote option getting louder.
Mulgrew sent working teachers to their potential deaths on 3/16, 3/17 and 3/18 to insure an automatic dues checkoff on their checks, so what makes anyone think he has any qualms whatsoever on anything that could hurt or kill teachers?
When I hear the snivelling cowardice of those who refuse to get vaccinated, and listen to their hollow arguments about creeping fascism, (or is it socialism) I'm reminded of the sacrifices of the men who died defending our country. When they were drafted into the army and deprived of their freedom (to a degree) and subject to military law and placed in situations of grave harm, they were not victims of fascism. They were fighting against fascism in a democratic society where individuals often sacrifice for the good of the whole. By the way, their very first day in the army, right after swearing allegiance to the Constitution, they are subject to a whole battery of vaccinations, none of which is optional. So please, spare us the homilies on fascism. Let's call it what it is, sacrifice for the good of the whole. Now roll up your sleeve.
we need a vote of no confidence for this pitiful union leadership and a way to remove clueless Mulgrew
I've been vax long time ago so not am impact for me. I was not going to share my status only so I can continue to be tested weekly like I did every week in fall. I wish the politics of the vax was less.
If you went to school when many others were remote, waited for old to get shots...got infected in school. Still went back in once you were well. So now have natural immunity for 6m+? So waiting for a shot for best effect just about to get 1 but now have to rush? Not me but this must be many DOE staff.
Did the right thing as not high risk and punished like anti v person.
Others just were waiting for more data...but got infected. They are willing to get vax but in reality might have higher protection today than some that got J&J. Maybe yes, maybe no but probably close right?
Vax should be used where most effective. Might be better for NYC to send extra vax to other countries to stop variants before vax for under 40 already infected. No nuance or really following the sci data we have.
Strange we ignore those already infected in the count of vax. It should count for something and focus on the real risk areas.
Most doc and sci avoid the subject about those already infected by covid recently. Yes still most recommend a vax but data shows nuance about when and if to get. Likely only few % improvement so could maybe use the vax for really those at risk.
DOE also is random about how to handle the air exchange in a room.
Fine about horrible masks they supply, joke temp check.
I think forcing this vax is a bad precedent. I think most will get infected/vax Sept-Oct as they see spread without any mandate for a mask or vax. Peer pressure works better in the long run as they feel they made a choice.
The spread is only thing that changes people behaviors.
When Mulgrew allowed/sent teachers into schools we knew the virus was already in back in march leading to some teacher deaths I knew that was the moment. Teachers will either unite against Mulgrew and cause change or will forever allow themselves to be mistreated. unfortunately the majority chose mistreatment after all if sending in teachers to get sick and die didnt wake people up what would??????
The city’s principal’s union was less supportive.
“While CSA has supported all efforts to encourage vaccination, we have also insisted that vaccination and testing policies are subjects for collective bargaining,” said Mark Cannizzaro, president of Council of School Supervisors & Administrators.
“Today, the mayor acknowledged that the city must negotiate the specifics of the new policy with school-based unions, and we will work to protect our members’ rights and interests at the bargaining table.
1:38 i know someone who enlisted in military.when it came to the vax, he got guillan barre and is forever maimed in a wheelchair.not covid vax.this was way before precovid.
To all you who speak our favoring mandates including rotten Randi:di blockhead saw he had support!you guys threw us under the bus.i hope you rot forever in hell!you have no conscience. A para i know is quitting rather than vax.i hope doe is left with a massive shortsge like the brave nurses and yoy all have crowded classrooms as a punishment.
@138pm...
Yep.
Honestly, not $ but political pressure: you know Biden Administration leaned into FDA to approve to try and make way for vaccine mandates and then to vaccine passports.
Who paid the FDA to approve the vax without completed clinical trials?
Facebook bloked the rally info!why are they so scared?
1:38. Some of us feel the exact same way about you. Spare us your anti liberty moral high ground. Vaccinated in April. Still think you’re fascists.
2:12 why should anyone be supportive of such a nasty person like yourself. You're upset and whining that people support the mandate, and yet you all hope that people who support it get sick, die, rot in hell. Are your opinions on this the only ones that matter? Plenty of teachers have young children, they should support your decision to remain unvaccinated over their children's safety? Fuck you all too. Damn wackos.
FACT: Mayor is mandating covid vaccinations to prevent unvaccinated teachers from having to quarantine if exposed. He knows there would not be enough subs to cover unvaccinated teachers. The city was fudging the numbers in saying that upwards of 70% of teachers are currently vaccinated. Go check the Facebook teacher groups and see the tons of unvaccinated teachers who are pissed about being forced to get the shot. This is NYC Babysitting, pure and simple.
I'll bet these hypocrites who are whining and wailing about those who support the mandates would step all over their co-workers for a remote option, even thought they know that those who are vaccinated can get sick too. If remote option is offered it should be based on seniority. Those who chose not to vaccinate should not be rewarded by being allowed to work from home.
This is obviously the right decision. For those complaining, it’s your right not to take the vaccine- it’s not your right to work for the DOE (or any other organization that makes public health decisions based on scientific data.) Vaccinations are a huge part of the reason our average life expectancy is double what it was a hundred years ago. This has never been controversial. It appears political narratives and bad information spreading on the internet, none of it sanctioned by doctors or experts, is responsible for this current divide in our culture.
I’ve had to dig up my childhood and post childhood vaccination records for countless jobs and school in my life. I’d imagine every one of those resisting have had to do so as well. The data is crystal clear. The vaccines, while imperfect, are overwhelmingly safer for public health than allowing Covid to spread unmitigated.
In short, get the shot or find another job. Of course, there are medical exemptions I’m sure will be accommodated. I’m thankful the DOE is making decisions based on data not internet narratives.
@3:14 "Mayor is mandating covid vaccinations to prevent unvaccinated teachers from having to quarantine if exposed".
And this is a bad thing because?? They're trying to run a school system (albeit it's an abject failure, LOL). Nobody has time to pander to right-wing induced paranoias.
@2:49 "anti-liberty moral high ground". Spoken like a Fox News parrot.
Hmmm, so teachers are mandated to get the vaccine but not kids above the age of 12? If the Mayor is so confident about the vaccine why is he not mandating it for kids?
Some attorneys are looking into challenging phizer approval.obviously, it was bought.you prob dont want the site, but i have it if u want.likely removing my fb because they are taking down ads for the rally.
I am 2:12.i say those hateful things because it is hateful to force someone to risk their life for something fraught with lies and cover ups.so if u all do it, you get what u deserve!mant deaths from vaccibes covered up.i would not say these things about a less risky vaccine.it comes to biden.perhaps muldoo paid off.
Btw, nj gov announced option to test 1vor 2x weeklt if not vaxxed.not like constipated ny leaders.
4:17 That works both ways. Vaccinated folks feel YOU are endangering everyone's life and their children's lives. Still, I don't see anyone wishing that you suffer, rot in hell, die. You're blaming those who support the mandate as if we have control over it. If you're even a teacher. Your writing style is atrocious. So when you say hateful things, don't expect people to support YOU. Karma will get you. Maybe you will be the one to get what you deserve.
The doe and data. Lol. Like saying we have the highest grad rate ever while graduating a bunch of illiterates and unemployables. Data.
"De Blasio said the city would engage unions in what he described as “impact bargaining,” which would essentially focus on dealing with the impacts of the policy — not on whether the policy itself should or should not be implemented.
“Either way you slice it, this policy is moving forward and this mandate will be in place,” he said. “That’s the bottom line.”
I just realized:the protest rally is not even mentioned on the uft page.i interpret that to mean that they are going along with it.we are screwed. When they want us to protest, they lwt us know.this means mulgrew is not for choice.he will not back up our rights.i woll request a consult for pension.prob is if i move away where it isnt mandated, who is to say that their laws wont change either.this ass didnt even give us a chance to try out the testing protocol.nj os better.i wonder if they will strictly enforce subs vaxxing since they are short.
The bottom line is that Mulgrew never misses an opportunity to tow the line with De Blasio.
You see how the other unions are not being arm twisted to vaccinate.
One would think that Mulgrew and De Blasio are best friend boyfriends given their partnership in throwing teachers under the proverbial bus.
Here they are working together, planning together for the grand reopening of NYC public schools:
https://www.allposters.com/-sp/Alice-In-Wonderland-Tweedle-Dee-and-Tweedle-Dum-Posters_i6093857_.htm
Mulgrew on the left side; De Blasio on the right.
@4:50 you don't teach your students anything?
Sooooo, does this mean that all full time UFT employees at 52 Broadway and the borough offices will be forced to get vaccinated? Of course not!!!
Mulgrew and De Blasio are having a "mandate". They are best friends.
5:15 if you want to look on the bright side and are serious about moving:
Jersey just instituted the vax OR test, so there's a shot that's what they'll stick with. You'll have to check with the individual district too, which may have it's own requirements. Also remember no ability to transfer pension and no guarantee where you'll be on the salary scale.
In my kids' elementary school in PA, and remember this is with Commie Tommie Wolf in charge, parents chose whether to be in the mask mandated classroom or mask optional. I'm not sure how they determined what teachers have to mask. Also no vax mandate. In most grades there are 6 classes, 2 mask and 4 optional. There is also no mask mandate at grocery stores and no Gestapo asking for papers at the restaurant or casino. Benefits are better than GHI but you pay for them, you pay more for pension (although there is a 20 year option at half pay, you have to pay in like 10% to get it) as well, and salaries while not low like in the Carolinas are lower than NY & NJ.
5:54lol! Tx for comic relief!
4:17how can you say you dont see the hate toward the unvaxxed!it's all over this blog!if people think we should vax, then also put your child at risk and vax, since they think it is so safe.actually, they don't cate of teachets are safe.nobody does.not even the union.and when people say we should be shot and lose citizenship, etc, that isn't hate? Wish i had saved more money.it would be easy to walk. Anyway, i am writing to uft-not that i expect a response!also reaching out to legal avenues before i give up...or rob a bank...just kidding.my point is simply that people who arent willing to risk should not push othets to do so.you say you guys didnt make the rule.that is true, but it was very clear that you guys wanted it. As did rotten Randi.Diblasio had no pushback.he had willing capos!(idk if spelling is correct)
Well, Since our student enrollment is down and we have too many teachers. This is the easiest way of getting rid of 5000 teachers. By making them resign over being told what to do. This way they don't have to lay anyone off, they will have less teachers sick and/or die, and they can say well they voluntarily left and well we just corrected our teacher to student ratio. Great plan.
5k who refuse, meanwhile have had vaccines before, done drugs, smoke, drink, drink and drive, have surgeries, take medications over the counter, behind the counter, eat their crazy uncles food. Butttt no, I will not get this vaccines because you're telling me what to do and I don't trust the medical community hahahhahhahahha
LOL @ 7:35. That's about right. It's all b.s. and all about "owning the libs".
@7:23 - there is no approved vax for children under 12, what part of that don't you understand? What you're suggesting is irrational. SO WHAT we wanted it? Is anyone allowed to have a different take on this? You're referring to one random troll post saying people should lose citizenship. Does that even sound like something that is on the table. So your response to that is to wish that everyone who supports a mandate should rot in hell. Go ahead, keep wishing it, because it will come right back to you. Frankly, with writing like yours I don't even think you're a teacher.
The UFT is garbage! What do you do with garbage? THROW IT OUT! Mulgrew needs to GO!
DeBOZO knows that he can use us an example because MULGREW allows for UFT members to be consistently bent over and fucked!
Mulgrew constantly uses the excuse "it's for the students or our livelyhood"
Bullshit! Teachers will always be needed!
Think about it! Why not include the FDNY? NYPD? Because DEBOZO knows Pat Linch would tell him to go fuck off!
Does Pat Linch ever feed BS to his members be saying the NYPD members must do this or that because it's for their livelyhood?? No, of course he wouldn't BECAUSE HE ISN'T A PIECE OF SHIT LIKE MULGREW!!
Remember teachers Mulgrew DOES NOT PROTECT UFT MEMBERS! He protects his OWN WALLET!
TEACHERS NEED TO WAKE UP AND GET NEW LEADERSHIP!
YES, I AM VACINATED BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN I THINK OUR UNION LEADERSHIP SHOULD KEEP THROWING MEMBERS UNDER THE BUS!
8:29 embarrassing!
The two dunces running the UFT and NY city schools will never change.
They are hopelessly incompetent.
Their abuse of power, their authoritarian actions are Trumpian.
Donald Trump is not the only egomaniac around.
Why are you progressives supporting Mulgrew and De Blasio?
Patrick Lynch is just a blowhard. What has he delivered?
People like Mulgrew do not learn from their mistakes and they don't evolve.
Nothing in the UFT will change by ranting on this blog.
Can’t wait to see what all those nyc teachers who said they’d quit before getting the vaccine do next 👀
How do u know its a troll?what about people saying we should be shot and lose citizenship?i think the gov is hoping for civil war as an impetus for lockdown.sick!
I wrote those things because i think ot is wrong for parents to say we should risk our health and life while they would not risk that of their child's.i am opposed to mandated shots for anyone, especially choldten.but if the parents want to press us to do so, they too should be willing.and dobt mandate for some and not others.
Fyi, i gave mulshit a piece of my mind.i hope othets will do the same!
Valarie Honeycutt Spears
"Mon, August 23, 2021, 3:10 PM
Officials in another Kentucky school district have announced that they are shutting down for the rest of the week due to COVID with no remote learning.
‘Due to an increase in Covid cases in our schools and additional class quarantines, school will be canceled through August 27, 2021. These will not be NTI days but will be made up later in the year,” Leslie County Schools officials said in a Sunday Facebook post.
Lee, Magoffin, Knott and Jenkins Independent school districts are among those that have shut down for multiple days due to COVID. Some school districts have announced they will have no virtual learning."
7:35 that might apply to some.i dont smoke drink, etc.i had a shit summer avoiding this virus....because of the assholes that think we shuld vax while they hang out unmasked in crowded bars.
We can live without the conspiracy theorists who think the vaccine is going to kill them.
The same assholes who hate Trump loveeee his vaccine now. Meanwhile, worthless Kamala and Worst president ever Biden kept saying anything from Trump never take. Otherwise, we would be remote for 5-7 years because Biden was too incompetent to get a vaccine out.
I proved to James 30,000 teachers opposed to vaccine mandate. The projection is real all talk about trump and nazi when the liberals literally the nazis. Mulgrew has 50 million on the line with pissed-off members.
Mugrew said "my first proirity si to keep students safe and schools open" never mentioned teachers at all .His first proirty is to keep teachers safe then all others will follow including keeping schools open I thought he worked for teachers.
You trust some medical advice and take aspirin(which is worse), but don't trust all medical advice.
Got it
About 5k of you who don't want the vaccine. Don't know if you know, but to get the vaccine, you need to supply personal information into a database. Guess who can see the database? Well the people that run the city and state of course!
Everyone talks a big game.. Some will get the vaccine, some will resign, but you're so off on the number.
"I proved to James 30,000 teachers opposed to vaccine mandate."
I asked for the evidence. I want to see the poll. I am still waiting.
Why must you call people names? I get that we get our news from totally different sources and yours are anti-COVID Vax. I am no scientist but my wife, daughter and I have taken the shot and I had a sore arm for two days. It is not a live vaccine. You will be fine. Let's forget science, however as I do not want to spend two hours reading some dark websites you will send me to that to me are frightening.
However, I will ask you the same question I asked TJL: Since mandatory vaccinations have been ruled legal by the Supreme Court in 1905 and upheld ever since and the Pfizer vaccine is now fully FDA approved, what do you think Mulgrew can do besides asking for, properly by the way, a medical exemption?
No name calling please.
9:51 It's not Trump's vaccine, he's not a scientist. He wanted you to inject a disinfectant as a cleansing. ROFLMAO. Then when the vaccine finally came out he was too busy trying to overturn an election to give a damn about getting the vaccine into people's arms. He placed so many doubts in people's minds, and discredited science, that now he can't reverse the brainwashing and you idiots are too afraid to take it. A lot of good the vaccine does if people are afraid to take it.
You are a liar. You posted that 30,000 were opposed and he asked you for a source and you never provided it. I was wondering if it was in NYC, was it the country, the world? You gave nothing. Stay pissed off, nobody cares. Walk out like you threatened.
You are the real coward. You have been vaccinated but are still afraid to live life. You most likely don't believe in the vaccine and you feel you made a mistake. And now you want your fellow teachers to do the same.
Here is a laugh:when diblockhead was questioned, he said he wadnt worried that the mandate would cause a staff shortage because so many want to work hete because of their compensation!
9:31 "I think the gov is hoping for civil war as an impetus for lockdown.sick!' You think your imaginary scenarios are sick? LOL. You're not making any sense and are deliberately dense. The vaccine is approved for adults. It's NOT APPROVED for children under 12 and therefore you can't compare the risk. Maybe the stupid act of yours is not an act afterall. The only risk to teachers is in your own head, just like it's in your head that the Gov wants a civil war.
10:08 oh look, another pathetic straw man.
I have yet to hear anyone answer my question. Why are those who have been vaccinated afraid of those who have not yet been vaccinated? Do you not believe in the effectiveness of the vaccine? If you don't believe in the vaccine then why are you insisting everyone else get it?
And by the way, I have had covid and my doctor advised me not to take the vaccine because natural immunity is the best defense.
@10:08 it's the truth. Nobody is indispensable. They'll fill the job before the chair gets cold.
10:08 has to make up stuff in his head in order to feel good. Doesn't want the vaccine, and wants to convince himself that those who took it don't want it either so they're engaged in an evil plot to force those who are unvaxxed to take it too. Maybe he teaches fiction. Hahahahahah
There's a walkout alright: "A group of around 75 South Florida doctors staged a walkout on Monday to protest the number of unvaccinated COVID-19 patients flooding their hospital in Palm Beach Gardens, Florida, MSNBC's Morning Joe reports.
The frustrated doctors want people to "ignore the nonsense and the absurdities that you're hearing people say at public meetings and recognize the value of what a vaccine will do," said Kerry Sanders, reporting on the ground in Florida. He added that 85 percent of the ICU beds in the state are full."
In the week beginning August 14, for instance, at least five South Florida police officers died after contracting the virus, writes CNN.
"A new Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research poll finds that most Americans support mask and vaccine mandates for students and teachers in K-12 schools (Aug. 23)"
Teachers: 59%
Students: 58%
You Lose anti-mandaters.
Anti-vaxxers want to the freedom to not move on with their lives, and they drag the rest of the country with them, or rather keep the country stuck in a state of pandemic.
@10:15 Educat you are so disingenuous. You ask the same question every day, people answer it, and then you post again "nobody has answered the question".
The last time you asked "Educat-- Although I find your and others' use of the word Nazi offensive, I will answer your question which I have seen/heard often." The poster went on to list all of the reasons. A complete waste of her time since you pretend you didn't see it as you always do. You may not like the answer but stop pretending that no one has answered your question.
I'm vaccinated.
I don't like mandating people to get vaccinated however all students in NYS are required to get certain immunizations to attend school regardless of race, creed or religious beliefs.
If FDA approved vax for 12 and up it would be mandated for them.
This is a vaccine that has been tested and examined more than any other in history.
The mRNA vax has been tested for many years. The vaccine is safe for a majority of us.
Those with medical issues should be exempt.
Not a fan of the mayor but he got this right, no testing option. If there is a testing option then there is no mandate.
I still wouldn't mandate anyone but I would encourage those physically able to get vaccinated to do so but I respect your decision even though I believe you are putting others at risk.
Still, the only thing this “vaccine” provides immunity from is law suits.
This is in response to Anon 2323,
You know I am not going to print a link to any petition by anti-vaxxers. Find it yourselves, please.
This is from Anon 2323; I assume this is your answer to what Mulgrew should be fighting for:
"1. medical exemption
2. exemption for people trying to have kids
3. religious exemption"
I don't believe there is a religious exemption in NY law for vaccines and there is no evidence beyond the dark web that I know of that says the vaccine makes one less likely to produce children. Please don't send me to some off-the-walls alt-right source that will scare me late at night because I can't believe intelligent people believe such crazy nonsense and some teach children.
My response is from the CDC:
"There is currently no evidence that any vaccines, including COVID-19 vaccines, cause fertility problems." https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/vsafepregnancyregistry.html
I think we can conclude Mulgrew and de Blasio know you guys aren't going to quit or walk out so de Blasio basically called your bluff and besides asking for a medical exemption which I fully support, there is nothing much else the UFT can do.
Further on,
Anon 2323 said:
"This is from 2019, maybe let your brother handle the case you have issues connecting the dots 🧐🧐🧐🧐. Very simple reason why this was put through so fast by FDA."
https://www.businessinsider.com/scott-gottlieb-goes-from-fda-commissioner-to-pfizer-board-member-2019-6?op=1
That line of reasoning discredits all of the good people who are career science folks at the FDA. I have a relative who has worked for both FDA and CDC in a science position. I have met some of her colleagues and you are really insulting their integrity with this insinuation. They wouldn't put us at risk if they thought a vaccine wasn't safe and they are real professionals.
By the way my brother who is a retired NYPD Captain is fully vaccinated as are two other former NYPD officers in the family.
Then why doesnt the cdc take their own vaccines?
It's late and I don't want to do this but since you asked a question based on internet rumors:
https://www.kens5.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/vaccine/cdc-white-house-fda-moderna-pfizer-johnson-mandate-covid-vaccines-employees/536-e2080147-2e26-4b79-8451-13ceac2e44b8
Anyone working for a federal government department or agency is a federal employee, including the CDC and the FDA, which are both federal agencies under the Health and Human Services Department. That means the White House’s vaccine mandate applies to employees at the CDC and the FDA just as it does to employees at the White House.
Too bad cuomo didnt fire diblockhead when he threatened to.
https://www.ynetnews.com/health_science/article/sk84ozmzk
Health Ministry reports 9,831 people had tested positive for coronavirus on Monday, dangerously close to all-time record of 10,118 reported on January 18; since start of pandemic in Israel, one million people have contracted the virus
Fake news. Florida doctors did not walk off the job. Read more. They went outside their hospital for community outreach to convince people to get vaccine. To deny people have had serious adverse effects from vaccine is denying science. It may be rare but it happens. You know what else is rare? Healthy people under 50 dying from COVID. Vaccinated and believe in freedom of choice.
The option should be left to the individual. Vaccinate or submit to weekly testing as a DOE employee.
You all know it takes years of study to know the effects of this shot.
Why force people? This is not the America way!
People who have concerns have rights too!
The same people crying the loudest about freedom, liberty, privacy are the same ones trying to take away a woman's "Right to Privacy", which is how the abortion battle was won.
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Legal challengers are expected to raise some of the arguments already brought against "COVID-19 mandates in lawsuits across the country, and ultimately force courts to grapple with the 1905 Supreme Court decision, Jacobson v. Massachusetts. In Jacobson, the court said that states, under their police power, could require the smallpox vaccine.
“Jacobson is an old case, and how much force it will have, I think it depends,” Jim Oleske, professor at Lewis & Clark Law School, told Yahoo Finance earlier this month.
Most ripe for debate, Oleske said, is whether state and local governments need to provide exceptions to mandatory vaccination policies — either to protect the constitutional right to the free exercise of religion, or to protect the constitutional right under the Due Process clause to remain free from bodily interference."
@9:31 wow. Nobody can be this thick. "i think ot is wrong for parents to say we should risk our health and life while they would not risk that of their child's."
You're just making up stuff. No parent has said that anything of the sort.
James I do not agree with you. I am vaccinated. I would NOT want to be vaccinated if I were trying to have a child. You say "there is no evidence currently that the covid 19 vaccine causes fertility problems"
Ok, but the vaccine has not been around long enough to collect this data. The cdc will say there are other reasons for fertility problems and it will take years to collect data to prove this one way or another. We also do not know the effects of the covid 19 vaccine on fetus' and babies.
I would not want to take the vaccine if I were trying to conceive. I remember about 11 years ago when the swine flu vax came out I did not take it. I was afraid. People have a right to their feelings and not forced to do something they are not comfortable with.
My body my choice. Again I am vaccinated but I do understand people not wanting to get it and feel terrible for people to be forced to choose between their beliefs and their jobs.
PS. I am not Anon 2323. I am just a person who believes in Pro-choice for all these decisions.
One size does not fit all. Parents should have a choice to have virtual learning. This is the problem here. No, virtual is not best for all but elementary parents whose children are under 12 should have a choice to not have their children in a crowded hallway, stairwell, classroom. The virus closed classrooms in my school over and over. It was the students not teachers testing positive.
Prochoice is where our union should be and take a stand.
I am vaccinated for CoVid but I am a conspiracy theorist when it comes to CoVid. Too many unanswered questions, monetary incentives, and political motivations to get everyone vaxed. I do not believe there should be a mandate to vax for anyone. I know of two young people, late teens, who experienced the heart inflammation issue after getting the vaccine. This is easy to dismiss when it is not your child.
This has opened my eyes as to how easy it is to manipulate people and have the general public believe anything; no questions or opposing views accepted.
Weed, abortion, porn, debauchery, vulgarity, illegal immigration, $30 trillion in debt, no personal thought or opinions....all great but anti-vax...bad. What the...? Where is this going? The frog is happily starting to boil.
Some other things the FDA approved:
Risperdal (antipsychotic that makes men grow breasts)
Cerivastatin (caused 100,000+ wrongful deaths)
benzodiazepines (responsible for 35% of drug-related hospital stays)
Dsuvia (opioid 10 times more powerful than fentanyl)
Gotta keep that faith in the holy church of the FDA !
The thing I don’t get is why wasn’t there a sit down with Mulgrew or the Uft to hash out any potential problems. I agree with the mandate, I just don’t agree with the top down authoritarian rule that seems to be a continual slap in the face to the teachers of New York City and to the ridiculous union that the Uft has become. This wouldn’t fly with any other union in New York City and deBlasio knows it. This is just another example of the need to get rid of Michael Mulgrew. The mandate is correct, but the way it was enacted was an insult to everyone.
https://www.fda.gov/media/150386/download
The "Approval" letter is not an actual approval but a revision of its Emergency Use Authorization. It states it all over the letter.
Page 2 Paragraph Two: On August 23, 2021, having concluded that revising this EUA is appropriate to protect the public health or safety under section 564(g)(2) of the Act, FDA is reissuing the August 12, 2021 letter of authorization in its entirety with revisions incorporated to clarify that the EUA will remain in place for the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine for the previously-authorized indication and uses, and to authorize use of COMIRNATY (COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA) under this EUA for certain uses that are not included in the approved BLA.
So once again your trusted sources are lying. As long as the “COVID emergency” is extended by the gov., this symptom retardant based on perpetual boosters will be emergency authorized, not approved.
Also before this comment, I shared a source from the Economist, Why did you censor it? That’s the second time you’ve censored me for using legitimate sources. I never post “dark web” sources despite your absurd claims.
Where in my post did I write that they "walked off the job". They DID stage a walkout so it is NOT fake news. Nobody said they quit, or went on strike. Learn to read.
PALM BEACH COUNTY, Fla. (NBC) – Dozens of South Florida doctors staged a walkout on Monday to protest the number of unvaccinated COVID-19 patients flooding their hospital in Palm Beach Gardens, Florida,
Just before sunrise, about 75 doctors stepped outside their hospitals and offices to stand together and encourage the community to get vaccinated
@5:20 "To deny people have had serious adverse effects from vaccine is denying science. It may be rare but it happens"
Who denied it? Any prescription or surgery, or medical intervention, lists possible side effects. Is that supposed to be some sort of newsflash.
"my body, my choice". Where have I heard *that* before? I KNOW. Women who fight for "right to choose" and are attacked for it by the rabid right wing.
Fire the nayor? Is that possible?
Doug - nobody is putting a gun to your head and forcing you to get the vaccine. Stay away from unvaccinated children in the meantime and stop whining about it.
The Kansas City Star Editorial Board
Tue, August 24, 2021, 6:00 AM
From his Kansas City hospital bed, 42-year-old Ben Anderson, of Cameron, Missouri, has a message for those who, like him, have for whatever reason not yet gotten the COVID-19 vaccine: “These nurses, doctors, are overwhelmed. They are doing the best they can but the emergency rooms are so busy with COVID patients they can’t even stop to clean up the vomit from one patient before they get a code blue and have to run because someone is dying. They are not showing us that on the nightly news. People don’t get it. This is not the sniffles.”
It wasn’t that Anderson was particularly opposed to getting vaccinated. “I wasn’t vaccinated because work was busy,” the software product manager said during an interview in Research Medical Center, where 95% of COVID patients in intensive care unit beds are also unvaccinated. Anderson took frequent breaths, as air seeped through the hole in his neck where a tracheostomy tube had been. “I just never had time.”
Six weeks ago, Anderson lay in an intensive care unit, unconscious and on a ventilator. An end-of-life team at the hospital called his wife Tammy Anderson to discuss removing him from the breathing machine he’d relied on for more than 20 days.
He knew that COVID had claimed the lives of more than 600,000 people in the U.S. alone. But he thought he was too tough to become one of them.
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“I never got better. I just kept getting worse,” Anderson recalled. On July 10, Anderson’s wife returned from an errand and found him sitting on the shower floor, unable to stand."
James, Anon2323 is a troll. He has continues to violate your blog terms of service, and, worst of all, he's an imbecile, an illiterate, and, frankly, a dick. Get him out of here.
What Mulgrew should be doing is fighting for members, not leaving members to file their own lawsuit. This is very reminiscent of how those in the rubber rooms were treated. They, particularly Portelos, had to get their own lawyers at their own expense because the Union would not do its job.
I would hope even the pro mandate people would recognize that you don't want the Mayor imposing these things unilaterally without collective bargaining.
9:30 what if most members want a mandate? Maybe he should survey the members and find out where they stand. Or do you guys think it should just be your way?
I have no idea who or what Portelos is but I know the anti-mandate group can't be trusted because they are not honest. They claim they want to wait for full approval, and when it comes through they don't trust the process. They say they don't mind masks and tests, but when left to an honor system they just flout it. When asked to self-report they whine that the Principal will know and retaliate. They whine when things shut down, they whine when there are gatherings and use it as "gotcha" moments. They wail about "my body, my choice" and then wail that children are not mandated also and accuse others of wanting the police to bash down the doors of black and brown people. I know that the anti-vaxx group is not reasonable, nor rational and they are responsible for the heavy handed tactics that we are seeing.
Cases among children are still rare, and severe cases among children are very, very rare, but I know that parents are thinking about their own kids. It's not as reassuring as anyone would like it to be," Biden said on Monday.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/analysis-fauci-s-new-2022-timeline-for-covid-fight-could-be-a-political-disaster-for-biden-and-democrats/ar-AANER45
@9:48 - you forgot this part which is right after what you posted:
"While the President is right that severe cases of Covid-19 are rare, hospitalizations of children with the disease have hit record highs this month as the national daily average of all new infections hit 150,000 per day and average daily deaths hit 1,000. Anecdotally, many parents now have experience with kids or their friends testing positive for the much more infectious Delta variant."
TJL, Mulgrew demanded impact bargaining to get exemptions from mandatory vaccines. UFT lawyers have advised that the mayor has the right to do this. What else would you propose Mulgrew do?
I’ll be going back to school myself soon - I am vaccinated, but there is no mandate for anyone. I guess the question for the UFT, is why isn’t there a mandate for kids 12 and over, if their teachers have one? And of course, why are kids 12 and under sent into schools if they can’t get a vaccine? Logically, the remote option has to be brought on the table and that is what the Uft should be discussing and hammering out right now.
Doug, I am not posting obscene comments on a regular. I let you curse me out the other day but as I said, my kids are old enough to come by here sometimes and they show their friends. Be professional and respectful, please. Thanks
Once again, to quote Churchill,-When will the lesson be learned.’ —when trying to convince the appeasers —to fight against the Nazis.
This is and has always been a global public health crisis and the idea of ‘American exceptionalism’ does not apply to Covid.
So, enough with the anti-vaxers comments of ‘my body,, my choice’ etc. Where would these same people be today—if it wasn’t for the polio and smallpox vaccines, penicillin, anti-biotics, MMR shots, etc. Perhaps some of these same people are still content with ruining their health with smoking or consuming larger than usual alcoholic beverages, or eating all kinds of fast food crap—all because it’s their right. The only exemptions should be for some medical reason. Perhaps these people are still in denial—and they believe nothing will happen to them or I’ll take my chances.
In the meantime, the Pfizer vaccine has been FDA approved and Moderna by sometime next month. But with still only 51% of the population to be vaccinated with such a surplus of vaccine and boosters to be available in a few weeks—-this continues to be nothings more than an American tragedy—just no excuse.
So once again, when will the lesson be learned. The enemy is the virus and public health mandates help fight the virus.
@955am cases don’t equal hospitalizations don’t equal deaths. Stop shilling for totalitarianism.
No dark web, once again.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2021/08/04/covid-cases-among-children-jumped-84-last-week-here-are-the-states-where-hospitalizations-are-increasing/?sh=6e5174293be9
As there is no regularly updated, comprehensive data on child Covid-19 cases available, it’s unclear whether the rise in hospitalizations is occuring nationwide. The last report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), in early June, found hospitalization rates among children peaked at 2.1 per 100,000 in January. Meanwhile, the American Academy of Pediatrics (which acknowledges it is missing data from some states) reports the number of hospitalizations has remained steady throughout the pandemic, with children accounting for between 1.3% and 3.5% of hospitalizations, depending on the state. Overall, the risk of death and hospitalization among children who contract Covid-19 remains low. Just over 520 children have died from Covid-19 since the start of the pandemic (0.08% of the U.S.’s 612,000 total deaths) and only around 0.01% recorded cases result in death. However, the CDC highlights it is still possible for children to suffer from severe disease as it “occurs in all age groups.”
What are you really afraid of?
Oh. I get it. I apologize. I was trying to be funny with the ODB lyric. I actually like raw data. That was supposed to be the joke.
Here’s the economist link again so people can make their own choices with their doctor.
https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/covid-pandemic-mortality-risk-estimator
@944am..
Absolutely. They do
what is called, talking out the a** or talking out both sides of your mouth or plain old bulls^itting.
What so many of you are failing to realize is that there are a whole bunch of former democrat voters who voted for Trump. We are done with the party that abandoned the working class. We are new republicans who want to primary out the Romney’s and Cheney’s. Many of us are pro freedom of choice. Choose the vaccine. Choose the abortion. Freedom! Just because the far right is wrong about abortion rights doesn’t mean they’re wrong about vaccine choice. When this vaccine has long term studies and the same proven track record as vaccines for polio, smallpox etc, then a comparison can be made. Until then it’s apples and oranges. Maybe NYC can force all working people but what are you all going to do with all the non working people who refuse? If in the end we still can’t vaccinate enough, what’s the whole point of forcing working people? I’m retired now so the DOE has no control over me. Vaccinated but not getting any more shots anytime soon. I’ll reevaluate if the media and government allow the free flow of information. People with something to expose shut down dissent. Not trusting these fuckers one bit with any more shots.
@10:30 the mandates from Universities are coming. My daughter's school did not assign dorm rooms/apartments to anyone who is not vaccinated. Commuter students have an option to test, but that was pending the full approval so that will likely change very soon.
(I tried to post this earlier, but my phone may have another type of virus so please erase any duplicates, thanks James)
Churchill was always trying to teach a lesson - mainly that everyone should want to be English and under English control if at all possible - he executed many noble people while doing it. (Anglophiles not under the Union Jack were tolerated and still are of course. Ronald Reagan, Papa Bush and Trump were in that camp. Obama sent Churchills bust back to England and Biden announced he was Irish Catholic at his inauguration, much to dismay of American Anglophiles everywhere.) The enemy here is not entirely ‘the virus’ - the serendipitous or some may say planned virus - seems more and more to be part of a covert goal towards controlling the populace. Paranoia is part of this massive hysteria, in which people are too focused on distraction to protect their civil rights. Look at 9/11 and the Patriot Act. The Patriot Act is so pernicious, it really behooves all Americans to study it. Sure, fight the actual virus, but don’t out of hand allow an erosion of civil rights that won’t be regained in doing so.
Yes. I agree.
Misinformation and hysteria should not be leading our country to force mandates like this.
We should have options like in New Jersey.
James, I am surprised you are for mandates without proper medical research!
As for the dark web: maybe you and your data are the dark web!
For the people who talk about abortion: what about the unborn child’s rights?
@11:56 Unhinged blather. "When this vaccine has long term studies and the same proven track record as vaccines for polio, smallpox etc,"
Do you think they waited for "long term studies and proven track record" before people took the vaccine to get the virus under control?? LOL.
If you're retired then you have no dog in this fight. Stay out of it. Clearly the DOE still has control over you if you're retired and they can still send you into a rage.
I’ll fight whatever fight I want 1:36. But thanks for thinking I give fuck about your obedient thought process.
Bronx ATR—all due respect- the possible erosion of civil rights—is a real stretch-as some of these anti-vaxxers will do an about face—when tell you they agree opposite when it comes to pro-choice involving abortion.
In the case of Churchill—-sure he was purely interested in England and its empire—but he had to put up with the disinformation of Chamberlain/Halifax as they were ignoring important military data along with seeing what was really happening in all of Europe laced with false hopes of any peace deal with the Nazis.
In the same way—there is too much disinformation and the politics have prevented nearly half the country from being vaccinated—when there is a global/national health emergency. The virus is the enemy for every country. So, when we learn the lesson.
@1:56 of course you can, but as you're not affected it's irrelevant. Stay mad. Nice way to enjoy your retirement, still gnashing teeth. LMAO
WE PARENTS NEED OUR CHILDREN TO HAVE A REMOTE OPTION SINCE U ALL OVERCROWDED THE SCHOOLS & HIGH SCHOOLS THAT ARE ALREADY PACKED LIKE SARDINES and THOSE OF US WHO ARE HIGH RISK FATALITY FOR COVID AND OUR TEENS ALSO HIGH RISK FATALITY FOR COVID AS WE ALL KNOW & I'M SAYING THIS ON A MEDICAL BASIS & TECHNOLOGY BASIS & THE CDC ALSO SAID IT.. VAXED PPL STILL GET THE VIRUS TOO & SPREAD IT, & CAN BE ASYSTEMATIC SAME WAY UNVAXED CAN SO US WHO ARE HIGH RISK FATALITY FOR CV19 ARE IN DANGER WITHOUT THE OPTION OF REMOTE!
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2:55: I'D AGREE WITH YOU IF PARENTS POLICED THEIR KIDS MORE. I CAN"T TELL YOU HOW MANY STUDENTS NEVER SIGNED IN ALL YEAR TO ZOOM OR GOOGLE CLASSROOM. REMOTE WOULD WORK IF PARENTS WERE MORE INVOLVED AND DON'T GIVE ME THE JOB EXCUSE EITHER. IF YOU INSTILLED THE VALUE OF EDUCATION IN YOUR KIDS IN THE FIRST PLACE, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO POLICE THEM. THIS ISN'T DIRECTED AT 2;55 DIRECTLY.
@1:56 You’re right. I’m a Democrat, as are most of my friends and the majority of us voted for Trump. He was the better candidate, as can be seen daily.
Tuesday 9:14 re: Doctors "DID stage a walkout..."
You LIED again! They did not walk out either.
Joe Scarborough spread this LIE on MSLSD. Even the far-left Associated (Apparatchik) Press has debunked this lie:
https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2021-08-24/fact-focus-florida-doctors-did-not-walk-off-the-job
By Associated Press
Aug. 24, 2021, at 2:09 p.m.
By JUDE JOFFE-BLOCK and ALI SWENSON, Associated Press
A news conference held by doctors in Palm Beach Gardens, Florida, to urge the public to get vaccinated amid a statewide surge of COVID-19 was undermined online as false reports claimed the physicians had walked off the job.
Doctors who participated in Monday's event told The Associated Press that they did not walk off the job or refuse to treat patients. The false claims, they said, have led to threats and harassment toward their colleagues and hospitals.
Here’s a closer look at the facts around this event.
CLAIM: A group of 75 doctors in Florida walked out of their jobs to protest the number of unvaccinated patients overwhelming the state’s hospitals.
THE FACTS: No, that’s not true. The news conference took place before office hours and was intended to encourage people to get vaccinated against COVID-19 and wear masks, according to doctors who participated. It wasn’t a protest or walkout.
MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” covered the news conference early Monday morning with a misleading on-screen caption: “SOUTH FLORIDA DOCTORS WALK OUT IN PROTEST.”
The network clarified on air Tuesday morning that doctors didn’t walk away from their jobs, but social media users and other news outlets had already picked up the language. Some criticized the doctors for allegedly withholding treatment.
“BREAKING REPORT: More Than 75 Doctors WALK OUT OF SOUTH FLORIDA HOSPITAL Rather Than Treat the Unvaccinated,” read one widely shared tweet.
@5:02 that's just not true. My own child was an honors student all of her life. I never, ever had to police her assignments. She went to a private school where the work was rigorous and they didn't accept late assignments and although I kept an eye on things I didn't have to hover over her. In her last year it was really such a such a struggle with remote and it took a lot of energy to finish off strong, even though I am an educator and presumably can offer the guidance and tools needed to succeed. Same thing with the next door neighbor. Her elementary school child was just not having it and the parent struggled so much. It's not the parent, as her other child received full ride scholarships to top colleges. It has NOTHING to do with instilling the value of education in your kids in the first place and as soon as educators can get that through their heads the better off the students will be.
Some students simply did not transition well to remote learning, and we can't keep teaching as if things are the same. Some students did transition well but for others that doesn't necessarily translate to "the parents did not instill the value of education". That's offensive. I had so many parents who said they tried and tried and the kid refused so they were looking at alternatives, trade schools, job corps, or whatever. They were very sad. It was a bad situation all around. We had so many conferences with parents and students, especially the seniors who needed to make up work. I sat with some of them for hours. When they took an hours long break, I would not move too far from my seat because I knew that when they returned, if I was not there, they'd be gone again. But that approach is not sustainable when you are talking about hundreds of students, and thousands of classes that they have to make up. Students have to go back in person or we are looking at a lost generation.
Thank u for saying not directed at me directly because not only is my teen an IEP kid but my teen attended classes 90% or more of the time for the zooms/Google.. I was on top of my teen to the point that I PUSHED DAILY to finish assignments my teen didn't so as to get everything in on time. It was so close that they had my teen in for summer school but my teen finished at the last minute and for the first time in my teen's school years (my teen will be going into 11th grade in Sept) my teen didn't have summer school. I do definitely agree the parents involvement does pay a big role & many dnt be involved for whatever reasons legit or not. I also feel the ones who are pushing the in-person so hard are ones that look to the schools & teachers as babysitters because not all work who are pushing it. Many of them are stay at home moms or dads. I'm a single parent to a special needs teen so if I can do it all w/ a teen thats much harder than most.. then there's no excuse to not be active in ur kids schooling & including remote. If u were to ask my teen's teachers last year? I was CONSTANTLY sometimes DAILY in contact with them either by phone text OR email. Even had my teen email teachers too since my teen is 16 & needs to learn to self advocate. (DISCLAIMER: I by no means am insinuating I'm a perfect parent because I have TONS of flaws & do things in ways many may feel are unconventional & may disagree with..but if it works in our case it is what it is..)
Remote worked for my teen & in this house both me & my teen are severely high risk fatality for cv19..I personally being that I have been in the medical field for over a decade & have my Bachelor's double major (& graduated with a 3.99 GPA April 2020) one being technology am not very keen on the vaccine. I dnt tell ppl to take it or not take it because it's not a one size Fits all & I can't tell anyone to put chemical cocktails into their body. I DO HOWEVER feel masks NEED mandating & worn PROPERLY & the correct masks. That's what's been saving me & my teen so far along with social distancing. I actually can't take the Vax tho even if I agreed with it as I am highly allergic to ingredients in it and that will murder me same way cv19 will murder me. The DOE has added over 100 kids to my teen's already Overcrowded high school that in 2019 precovid ALL the hallways/stairwells/elevators were packed like sardines in a can. I got claustrophobia in those hallways (I volunteered to do things like bake sales back then so I was there during school hrs) so now how can they even do proper social distancing for 1500-1600 students????
Hence the links I posted in my original post. We NEED a remote learning option for us who are high risk fatality & our kids who are also high risk fatality for cv19.
They held a press conference before work to urge everyone to get vaccinated and wear masks. MSNBC clarified that they didn't walk off the job. No fake news. We did before school actions many times.
I'm sorry but if your kid simply refuses to do what he/she is told, and doesn't even try remote learning, then the parent is guilty for allowing that. I'm sure the kid was able to use his/her cell phone and play video games. If they can use their phone and play video games, they can attend zoom meetings. I agree that remote learning is crappy, but if they are choosing to do it instead of going to school, then they should do it. I'm sure the 70 percent of high school students who chose remote didn't choose it because they were afraid of catching Covid. The teachers can only do so much. We tell them what to do, if they refuse to do it, the parent has to get on them. Also if your child's doctor told you your child had to go on a diet and lose weight and that child refuses to do it and just gains more weight is that the doctor's fault or the parent's fault?
Did someone just call the AP far left? All hope is lost for this country, I swear.
8:51 www.homeinstructionschools.com
You may be eligible, get your documentation in order now, including note from doctor.
The Monday before Labor Day make 2 calls:
Call home instruction.
call your school talk to the AP.
Good luck.
@James Yes indeed I did too in 2005. That wasn't a strike or walking off the job. Morning Joe lied and the network only retracted the next day when caught redhanded.
Calling that a lie is a real stretch TJL. The central theme that the doctors want to get more people vaccinated is essentially correct. Technically, they walked out to hold their presser but they clarified it was before work started so they did not abandon patients.
10:31 "their parent has to get on them". How old are you? Do you have teens of your own? Stop thinking there's just one narrative out there.
"Also if your child's doctor told you your child had to go on a diet and lose weight and that child refuses to do it and just gains more weight is that the doctor's fault or the parent's fault?" What kind of ridiculous analogy is this? Have you ever tried to force a teen to eat his vegetables? Grow up child.
Bottom line, the DOE screwed up in rolling out remote learning and they lost a lot of students early on. And not just "kids". Even adult learners struggled. You had students who were in shelters who had NO access to internet. OR they were trying to attend classes with their siblings sitting right next to them because there was no room in the small apartment. Not everyone has ideal home conditions for remote learning in a home full of kids. Our VALEDICTORIAN went missing after their parent passed away. Nobody's saying it's always the teacher's fault, and there are plenty of times it is, but it's certainly not always the parent's fault either. Your "one size fit all" blame is ridiculous.
@TJL - they did walk out you buffoon. It's no different than students who walk out, take a walk around the track and go back to school. Not that you've ever stood for anything, so what would you know what that looks like. Nobody but you idiots said they "walked off the job". The post said they "walked out". Idiot!! Go back to asking your daily question "nobody ever answered, but what's the difference".
"You LIED again! They did not walk out either.
Joe Scarborough spread this LIE on MSLSD. Even the far-left Associated (Apparatchik) Press has debunked this lie"
They DID walk out but of course they're trying to sugarcoat things because RIGHT WING LUNATICS are making threats and harassing them and making all sorts of accusations. Who knows if this post even gets through, James seems to be censoring any of my posts directed towards you so as to not offend your delicate little feelings, even as you insult everyone.
TJL, That charmer is the Pseudo Ms. Linda Blair, aka TP (Trump Possessed). I feel sorry for her and hope she gets the help she Desperately needs. Trump is destroying every facet of her being. - Jim M. ( Watch her head start spinning and the obscenities that will flow out of her like pea green soup.)
I’d love to go into a big treatise on this - maybe some other time. The Anglo-American world is being rocked right now. Civil liberties are being taken away. I just saw this on YouTube and found it pertinent - https://youtu.be/Xyd-Y3spt4U
3:43: I'm not saying there's only one narrative out there. Neither of my parents graduated high school and my mom worked two jobs when I was in high school and my dad was disabled. I also had to work after school when I was 15, but my education was always my top priority and that was instilled in me by mother who wanted my life to be better than hers. My parents never had to get on top of me to do my homework and I went to school every day from first period to end of 8th period rain or shine. It was the norm. Whether you think it's rhetoric or not, it all starts in the home.
No hard feelings, I'm not the one projecting "buffoon" "idiot" "lunatics", etc.
The buffoons and idiots at Oxford dictionary define a walkout as follows:
walk·out
/ˈwôkˌout/
noun: walkout; plural noun: walkouts; noun: walk-out; plural noun: walk-outs
a sudden angry departure, especially as a protest or strike.
If their shifts didn't start yet, that's not a walkout. Name calling and making false assumptions about me neither changes that FACT nor the fact that you are continuing to push a media lie even after it has been exposed. No insults necessary.
Yes - "a sudden departure". Originally they said they walked out in protest against the unvaccinated.
YOU are the one who continues to bring it up and everytime you do I respond. I know you like getting the last word and all but TOO BAD. NO insults? Well, weren't you the one screaming that I was a liar. Even if they did clean it up, I was going based on what was originally reported so YOU are full of it.
@5:56 Jim M, wasn't that you obsessing over Trump in another thread, and here you are still bringing him again when he's not even the topic of conversation. And you say "others" are Trump obsessed? Bwahahahah. You must've gotten smacked down real good that you're still licking your wounds. And once again whining and crying about being insulted after hurling your own insults. You make quite a spectacle of yourself around here. Go back to nursing your wounds - clearly you're not healed after your last beat down.
@6:46 you say it's not one narrative, and yet you continue with the 'one size fit all". That's lovely that you think it starts in the home. Some students are dealing with parents on drugs, alcohol, they're in foster care, homeless shelters. The school itself is an escape for them, and now it's closed. You just don't get it.
Jim M is still butt hurt over a comment taken at Trump. He's never gotten over it and is now hurling strange imaginings at anonymous posters. WEIRD. Seek help for your cultish behavior, and don't go out without adult supervision.
Jim said: aka TP (Trump Possessed). I feel sorry for her and hope she gets the help she Desperately needs. Trump is destroying every facet of her being.( Watch her head start spinning and the obscenities that will flow out of her like pea green soup.)
It's too bad everyone can't be more respectful and cordial, and not have Trump on the brain every minute of every day like Jim M. ROFLMAO
9:11: I'm not talking about those kids. I'm talking about the kids who waste their time cutting class and spending time on their phones and video games. All you keep doing is making excuses for the kids. People who succeed in life don't make excuses. If school is an escape for these kids why were so many kids doing remote when we went back to school last year?
@11:14 I responded to this ". IF YOU INSTILLED THE VALUE OF EDUCATION IN YOUR KIDS IN THE FIRST PLACE, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO POLICE"
What you call "excuses", I call empathy. You say you weren't talking about those kids but I WAS and oftentimes teachers don't know one from the other. They just "assume" everyone is just goofing off. I said there was no "one size fit all" because all you (or whoever) seemed to be doing was painting with broad brushes when blaming the parents.
Why were so many kids doing remote? Holy Cow. The schools were a shell of themselves for all intents and purposes. No cafeteria for lunch, no sports, no after school activities, those who came in did their work from a "computer lab" because their teachers were sitting at home on accommodations, and NO VACCINE.
"CHILDREN" who succeed in life have support systems and guidance and that can come in many forms. Good teachers see themselves as having a role in that instead of always blaming the parents.
Judge Judy, who worked in Family Court for 25 years often says "children thrive best in the widest circle of love and affection" I doubt you'll understand that, but perhaps someone else reading may get something out of it. You are hung up on bashing kids and their parents without any empathy at all for the nationwide educational disaster that transpired last year and it seems you would just love to continue it "if only parents would".
Jim M is a she, not he. And she has blood coming out of her wherever. Unhinged stuff. And Linda Blair?Geez. Gotta be at least 60. How about a reference from the last couple of decades. How old are these teachers?
“For years, lower-income children and families have struggled without reliable connectivity, and the severe impacts of this digital divide were only exacerbated when the COVID-19 pandemic hit,” said Comptroller Stringer. “The DOE had a responsibility to provide remote learning devices to hundreds of thousands of students, but our audit shows the agency did not have consistent protocols in place to ensure that devices were distributed when they were needed most. Even one child falling behind in schoolwork because of these errors is unacceptable. The DOE must promptly correct the deficiencies and implement our recommendations to make sure remote learning devices are distributed equitably and that every student who needs a device receives one.”
https://comptroller.nyc.gov/newsroom/comptroller-stringer-audit-does-inadequate-controls-over-remote-devices-increased-risk-of-learning-loss-inequitable-distribution-and-waste/
You all sound like 13 year old mean girls. TJL thanks for trying to have an honest conversation.
Everyone knows what a fucking walk out means. It implies they walked off the job. Comments like Buffoon etc show me you’re morons who can’t argue your way out of a paper bag. You are incapable of debating an idea because you are personality obsessed. If Trump told you NOT to douse yourselves in gasoline and play with matches, you’d all burn alive. Any asshole, myself included, can call names. TJL is a better human than I. You’re too stupid to live.
There it is everybody, TRUMP, TRUMP, DRINK. LOL. She thinks "debating ideas" is obsessively bringing up Trump proving she's the one possessed. So angry and deranged over whether they were on the job or off the job when she wasn't even part of the conversation. Seething in her dark corner like a miserable human being. Yes, you are an asshole, glad to see you finally admit it. Yes, TJL IS a better human being that you. The bum on the corner is a better human than you, for that matter. Very sad.
514 Are you serious? You're a whiney little coward. You go around this blog lowering yourself with your disgusting insults, interjecting yourself into other people's discussions, and now you're crying about mean girls? They said buffoon? That pales in comparison to the vile and creepy things you've posted, and are still posting. You're the one obsessed, and possessed, and high too. Stop trying to hide behind TJL, you're embarrassing yourself.
514 Did they walk out of their house? Out of the grocery store? They weren't at work in their scrubs? LOLOLOL. You're so desperate for attention. Do tell what ideas you've debated any time recently? Everytime you show up is like someone coming to the discussion and taking a dump on it. It's like a troll under the bridge who waits there just waiting to whack someone with nonsense because they're not being paid attention "look at me, look at me". Seek help.
514, somebody who writes all of this deranged shit doesn't get to call others "mean girls". "TJL, That charmer is the Pseudo Ms. Linda Blair, aka TP (Trump Possessed). I feel sorry for her and hope she gets the help she Desperately needs. Trump is destroying every facet of her being. - Jim M. ( Watch her head start spinning and the obscenities that will flow out of her like pea green soup.).
People curse and call names but your posts are some of the most disgusting and Trump obsessed on this entire blog, bar none.
Didn't you post all of this, 5:41
"voted for Trump twice. Trumptard 2024 if the other options are Senile Beijing Biden and the cackling fool top cop Kamala."
"Best of luck with your psychosis and Trump withdrawal."
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You think it's normal to chase people around this blog screaming about Trump?
"Pro-Trump vaccine resistance exacts a harsh cost from pro-Trump loyalists. We read pitiful story after pitiful story of deluded and deceived people getting sick when they did not have to get sick, infecting their loved ones, being intubated, and dying. And as these loyalists harm themselves and expose all of us to unnecessary and preventable risk, publications—including this one—have run articles sympathetically explaining the recalcitrance of the unvaccinated."
"The leaders in Trump’s America have talked a double game: Like Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, they urge vaccination one day, then the next they fundraise by attacking public-health officials such as Anthony Fauci. The consequence of DeSantis’s weeks of pandering to COVID-19 denial: More than one-fifth of all new COVID-19 cases in the United States are arising in the state of Florida—24,000 recorded on a single day, July 20."
"Donald Trump caused Americans to needlessly die through his negligence, denial, and misinformation about the pandemic. The vaccines were already in development before Trump started his Operation War Speed, which was also designed to be a publicity stunt to help him win reelection"
"What attracts people to Trump? What is their animus or driving force?
The reasons are multiple and varied, but in my recent public-service book, Profile of a Nation, I have outlined two major emotional drives: narcissistic symbiosis and shared psychosis. Narcissistic symbiosis refers to the developmental wounds that make the leader-follower relationship magnetically attractive. The leader, hungry for adulation to compensate for an inner lack of self-worth, projects grandiose omnipotence—while the followers, rendered needy by societal stress or developmental injury, yearn for a parental figure. When such wounded individuals are given positions of power, they arouse similar pathology in the population that creates a “lock and key” relationship."
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-shared-psychosis-of-donald-trump-and-his-loyalists/
Great article from another thread, since it looks like a poster above turned it into a Trump thread:
'Trump's rhetoric hurting vaccination efforts isn't limited to his specific commentary on Covid-19 and the vaccine. His entire presidency was devoted to the idea that The Establishment couldn’t be trusted, undermining the ability of mainstream media, health professionals and scientists to educate his base about Covid-19. In other words, Trump’s meager attempts to suggest the vaccine might be worth trying is overshadowed by his systematic efforts to sow mistrust in anyone outside of his political cohort.
This problem is unlikely to go away, and not just because Trump is afraid of the monster he’s helped create. Those who want to operate in the Trump lane in 2024 like Govs. Ron DeSantis and Kristi Noem are showing that they want to continue Trump’s tradition — decrying commonsense public health measures as a betrayal of conservatism and a surefire way to generate more attention for a White House run."
TJL,
Thanks I knew about home instruction due to my teen's hs being very thorough but the problem with that is ITS NOT COMPARABLE TO EVEN REMOTE FROM LAST YEAR OR REMOTE THAT CAN BE IMPROVED THIS YR..The homeschooling program is so subpar that it really doesn't further the child's education to h.s. diploma eligible. Now remote like last year can be improved & done simultaneously with in-person students so that ALL are learning the same thing at the same time,the teacher if also a high risk w/ underlying medical issues can remotely teach remote & in-person students simultaneously..I'm a Techie.. ITS NOT CONFUSING OR HARD TO DO! There's tons of kids in 3k thru 12 that need remote to be safe due to underlying issues.. this includes IEP children in all grades. Even vaxed the high risk fatality for cv19 can kill the teens. Neither the teachers nor the teens nor us high risk fatality for cv19 parents should lose our lives & die just because ppl in charge want to have a power struggle & not care about humanity & saving lives.
Lolol why do u all turn everything into stupid trump vs biden malarkey ��
FYI TRUMP HAD NO BUSINESS BEING IN THE WHITE HOUSE... biden ain't a prime candidate either but trump needed GONE! UNTIL REAL PEOPLE who know the struggle are nominated into office & not about money i.e. the candidates we have right now for mayor all the frontrunners are trash. None of them are going to care about us constituents..ALL OF US NYCers and our struggles ... they have NO IDEA what struggle means bc they never FELT the struggle.. the ones who would serve us better are the ones that weren't allowed on the debate all because they didn't have enough stupid money raised for campaigns. That's the most superficial crap ever.. the unknown basically candidates for mayor can relate to us, they interact with the public unlike dumb sliva & adams. We need deblasio gone but u all want to put another cancer in his place. Trump is a deadly disease & even tho biden isn't great TRUMP IS NOT & NEVER WAS the answer.. Hilary wasn't either. U all keep electing dipshts to run this country & then u all fight back and forth like 2 yr Olds. Guess what BOTH DEMOCRAT AND REPUBLICAN SUCK! So stop this disgusting ignorance far right vs far left �� .. makes everyone screaming conservative vs liberal to look like a bunch of low brain functioning fools..
Stop the lost generation bs sorry
N stop the have to go back in person crap too.. u all too afraid of CHANGE .. cut the crap ..
One size never fits all but to be honest the parents have to DO MORE to be on their kids backs in remote and let's face it... many parents didn't do that.. they didn't want the Hassle.. so don't be coming with excuses. I'm a PARENT saying this .. I dnt work in DOE .. but I'm a parent who is a techie & u all too afraid of Technology period..
U all got to stop living in the past & embrace the future.. FYI what we knew in 2019 is history.. that normal is gone .. precovid Era.. we are now in the covid Era (not even postcovid) & it's an entirely different normal. So soon as all of society stops their ignorance & understands we have a new normal & accept it .. the better off the world is going to be.
6:22 stop the WHINING and the CRYING. Schools are opening in September and parents can not work if they don't open the schools and then there will be even more poverty. But what the hell do you care as long as you can sit your fat ass at home. Whether they can maintain the openings for any length of time is anybody's guess. Look in the mirror if you want to see why your students are failing. You totally dismiss the audit findings that there wasn't even equity in the distribution of the equipment, just keep repeating, parent, parent, parent, like a Chatty Cathy doll.
Who the hell is afraid of technology? There you go pulling stuff out of your ass again. Open your fucking eyes and see that the Great United States of America FAILED when it came to remote learning because they were, and are ill-prepared. I already posted that as soon as I get back in the building, I am prepping my new students to go remote on a moment's notice, making sure they have what they need and are prepared. YOU are stuck on stupid just ranting and preaching like the crazy guy on the Times Square corner.
7:43 are u stupid or something? And u are a teacher???? Sonn I said I'm a PARENT & MY TEEN DIDN'T FAIL .. maybe you need to be fired & go back to school to learn READING COMPREHENSION.. oh and how to be professional.
What u said your name is? What school u work for? Oh that's right u didn't because you're too weak to come at ppl WITH YOUR NAME & school u work for because you're a PUNK a waste of air and a keyboard warrior .. oh & since u want to be vile & nasty and disrespectful & ignorant & unprofessional.. you can go suck your mother father everyone in your family.. �� since u ASSuming making yourself looking like a donkey's behind because ppl do have remote positions & many parents use school as a babysitter lol .. ironic how deblasio had those dumb concerts outside but canceling jouvert & I'm sure labor day Caribbean parade also OUTSIDE like his midlife crisis concerts but they are more risky? Sounds a little bit racist .. �� yet..... INSIDE WHERE TRANSMISSION IS DONE.. inside as in schools .. PACKED LIKE SARDINES IN A CAN.. no distancing etc.. are ok �� .. remote options are needed
Oh FYI.. yes u have made one correct statement I'm fat so u best watch what u say before I SIT On ur trachea because u are polluting good good air with ur inhumanity, keyboard warrior bullying & vile words (fyi DISCLOSURE: ppl reading I am not THREATENING THIS INCOMPETENT teacher *thankfully my teen's teachers are respectful, professionals & not psychotic like this one I'm replying to* I'm just giving back what the loser tried to shove out) .
Btw you who I'm replying to: #1 I'm a female so you're the idiot stuck on ignorance trying to compare me to a male because you felt TRIGGERED by my comment so I guess you're GUILTY of what I said ��������������
Oh and sign these petitions �� thx
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7:43 Whoa, what is all this garbage? looks like somebody hit a nerve.
'u want to be vile & nasty and disrespectful & ignorant & unprofessional.. you can go suck your mother father everyone in your family." Good thing you're not vile, nasty, disrespectful, ignorant, and unprofessional.
utterly disgusting and not worth a minute more of my time. Nobody's clicking on your stupid links that are probably viruses. What a low-life post. Seek help. NOW I see what people are saying about the violent parents they have to deal with. I thought they were just making it up.
P.s if you want to get hysterical about not giving their name, you might want to give yours first. BITCH.
BTW @4:38 I've been one of the few and maybe the only one defending parents and students, but I got your post confused with one of the trolls who blames parents. But now I see that they have a point. The argument wasn't about remote option for kids, but the remote option for TEACHERS. But after reading your filthy and disgusting, post, I no longer give a fuck.
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