Monday, March 29, 2021

TRUMP LAWYER USES THE "I DIDN'T REALLY MEAN IT" DEFENSE

We have NY teachers who comment here who have argued repeatedly that the 2020 presidential election was stolen from Donald Trump despite the reality that Joe Biden won without fraud. The election was not stolen by the ghost of Hugo Chavez manipulating Dominion voting machines. 

Nevertheless, as recently as last Thursday, a regular commenter here asserted that Biden got less than 30 million votes, not the 81 million officially tallied. I am tired of having to waste time arguing here with ridiculous theories but maybe you will believe one of Donald Trump's main election lawyers.

This is from Forbes:

TOPLINE  Former Trump lawyer and conspiracy theorist Sidney Powell moved to dismiss a lawsuit filed against her by Dominion Voting Systems Monday, arguing her earlier claims that Dominion was involved in an orchestrated voter fraud effort were so outrageous that “reasonable people would not accept such statements as fact.”

We have more details from the actual court papers the defense filed.

Determining whether a statement is protected involves a two-step inquiry: Is the statement one which can be proved true or false? And would reasonable people conclude that the statement is one of fact, in light of its phrasing, context and the circumstances surrounding its publication.

Furthermore, it is clear that Powell’s statements were made as an attorney-advocate for her preferred candidate and in support of her legal and political positions.  

The highly charged and political nature of the statements likewise underscores their political and hence partisan nature. Powell alleged that “Democrats were trying to ‘steal the vote’ from Trump and that ‘they ha[d] developed a computer system to alter votes electronically.” 

She claimed that she had evidence that the election result was the “greatest crime of the century if not the life of the world.” Reasonable people understand that the “language of the political arena, like the language used in labor disputes … is often vituperative, abusive and inexact.” 

 Analyzed under these factors, and even assuming, arguendo, that each of the statements alleged in the Complaint could be proved true or false, no reasonable person would conclude that the statements were truly statements of fact.

We now move to some commentary. This is from The Daily Beast via Yahoo News.  Matt Lewis explains why we have a real problem in the United States. 

Let’s begin with the suggestion that “no reasonable person” would believe Powell’s assertions. This is (sadly) false. For example, a February poll from the University of Houston found that 83 percent of Texas Republicans believed there was widespread election fraud. Many average Americans (reasonable or not) seriously believed the kinds of lies Powell was intent on spreading. Could it be that the “no reasonable person” standard no longer achieves its intended goal in modern 21st century America, where surreal is the new normal and where shows like Saturday Night Live sometimes can’t compete with reality? I mean, excluding the “reasonable people” still leaves you with, what, 74 million Americans? Sarcasm aside, we are literally talking about a good third of the country. I am reminded of the woman who told Adlai Stevenson, “Governor, every thinking person would be voting for you.” Stevenson, the story goes, retorted, “Madam, that is not enough. I need a majority.”

Lewis concludes that courts might be our last hope to stop the lies. 

I admit that many publications have a bias that often gets in the way of telling the whole truth. It isn't just Trump supporters. It is all sides of the political spectrum, however most are not as outrageous as Sidney Powell or some of our commenters. We certainly have a pro-teacher viewpoint here but we do try to be fair and accurate. Can you folks who disagree attempt to do the same? 

145 comments:

Anonymous said...

Trump is out. Nobody cares about him. Bigger fish to fry such as schools opening up with tons of new kids soon.

James Eterno said...

I agree he is out but not that nobody cares about him. I was responding to comments from last week.

Anonymous said...

Worry about sleepy joe's dementia or Harris in charge of the border. What A Joke.
Is Trump Still In Your Liberal Brain James?

You Liberals Make Me Laugh

Anonymous said...

Trump voters don't believe fake news. Youre wasting your time. We still believe election was stolen. Nothing you or anyone says makes a difference. Agree with 10:07. NY dems want schools open so they are opening. Demss are now the big fish that need frying. Kids still in cages.

Anonymous said...

Always thought that promoting ‘critical thinking skills’ played a major role in the daily instruction of all teachers-by incorporating the high end elements of Blooms Taxonomy or Depths Of Knowledge. Apparently, that is not the case with most adults—so many have just chosen sides—due to the divisive disinformation of too many demagogues—and people just come to unreasonable conclusions by disregarding evidence and in many cases—their own common sense..

Anonymous said...

Trump lost. He deserved to lose because of his initial handling of the virus and his overwhelmingly revolting ego. (I like the relative quiet, but understand it’s extremely troubling from a censored press.) Biden however didn’t deserve to win because of it. Trump, the blathering idiot, was a much better candidate. A sad state of affairs.

Anonymous said...

You can have a million documents and a billion people testify how Biden won fairly, but people believe what they want to believe. Many people are still going to believe the election was stolen no matter how much evidence you give that it wasn't.

Anonymous said...

My mind is made up. Please don't confuse me with any facts. Trump won. Coronavirus went away last Easter just like Trump said it would. Cuomo never sexually harassed anyone. Nobody died in a nursing home. Great country we have.

Anonymous said...

There’s a real danger here. It isn’t over the election or voting machines. It’s over both sides punishing the other for having different opinions. Trump is out of office, but the anger and violence is getting worse. It’s actually worse from the winning side. We need a leader that will bring people together. Biden and Harris aren’t the answer. I drove by a gun shop Saturday in Dutchess, there were about a hundred people on line.

Anonymous said...

With Trump, blacks were lagging less in salary and unemployment.

Anonymous said...

This doesn't refute that Trump lost the election 12:21.Covid response did Trump in. Loser.

Anonymous said...

Liberals are losers. everyday you guys complain ( and rightfully so) about many of our institutions that are controlled by liberals. Do you guys see a pattern or a common denominator? Send Me Your Addresses/ I'll Send You Some Glasses.
In Case It Slipped Your Minds, They run our state, our city, the DOE an our union

1:01 Set The Precedent On Personal Attacks
I Thought Personal Attacks Were Censored
Orwellian James

Anonymous said...

For the record Trump is the loser, not you 1:01. I don't know you and got nothing against you.

Anonymous said...

—When it comes to the truth and evidence.—it all boils down to the Supreme Court. For the most part, the Justices were an an excellent check against Trump. But what will happen with the constitutionality with many of these individual state proposals to cut back on the mail-in voting, early voting etc.—still is uncertain.

Anonymous said...

Trump or Biden? Who won the election was irrelevant to me. What important to me was the same color from bottom to top.
This way there’s no longer fighting between House, Senate, President. And it’s even better if it’s blue, so nyc will gets more federal funding.
Blue or red, we all love USA. We just have different points of view.
The beauty about our country is that we can change color every 2 or 4 years.
May god bless America!
USA USA USA

Anon2323 said...

FAKE NEWS!!!! 😂🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
https://erniespeaks.com/2021/03/25/axios-spreads-fake-news-about-sidney-powell-and-dominion-lawsuit/

https://palbulletin.com/2021/03/28/patrickbyrne-03-26-2021-sidney-powell-responds-to-the-fake-news-about-1-3-billion-dominion-lawsuit/

LOL YUP I SAID IT 30 MILLION VOTES, LOUD AND PROUD!

LOVE TO SEE DISCOVERY. Mike Lindell laid it out millions he spent on Absolute Proof. Arrests have been made on election fraud, looks like states are finally looking for voter ID, whyyyyy do dems think its racist?? Why are they not on board with it, the biggest cheaters do not want system fixed.

Trump said the pandemic will be gone by April, never stated the year, seems like it is going away. 38 million flu cases and now less than 2,000. Sounds like lots of false positives on the flu.

Wheres article on dictator Biden, for gods sake executive order after executive order from puppet masters. Where is the article on the disaster at the border which is worse than you guys can imagine. WHERE IS AOC!!!!! SHE SHOULD BE APPALLED!!!

James Eterno said...

We printed right from court papers because we figured someone might say it was taken out of context.

51 million fraudulent votes? If I thought there was that much fraud, I would be out and working on fixing it and I doubt I would have time to comment anonymously on a blog.

Anonymous said...

4:02 Let’s start with the 404,000 ballots in GA with no chain of custody. Biden didn’t need to cheat by 51 million to win the election. We all know how presidents get elected, don’t we? Had Hilary cheated by what? 100,000 in a few key states, she could have turned things around. I’m sure she’s still kicking herself. I listened to witness after witness at state hearings. Don’t tell me no election fraud occurred. The Sidney Powell “confession” has been debunked along with the drink bleach and fine people hoax.

12:10. There will be no unity. The best we can hope for is minimal violence. Liberals are on the gun lines. We conservatives have been well armed for years.

Kids still in Obama cages and a helluva lot more of them. All cramped together too, peas in a pod style now that COVID is gone.

Anon2323 said...

James I do not have an exact 30 million was an estimate, it would not surprise me. I would bet my life Biden did not get 81 million. He barely gets 3,000 likes when on youtube and has thousands of dislikes.

I have the utmost respect for you and blog and stance on education, politically you have little standing. 2008, 2012 the elections were fair, 2016 russia interfered!!!! 2020 cleanest election ever lol, you see a pattern? I bet you my 50 to your 500 by end of the year or sooner you will see clear evidence. If Georgia was not enough on top of dems changing all rules unconstitutionally in swing states, dominion which many dems including pelosi have said for years is corrupt and needs to go, no signature match, barely throwing any ballots away, getting 130,000 dumps, down 700,000 than literally swinging it by a million.

https://www.newswars.com/mathematician-says-biden-election-win-a-statistical-impossibility/

waitingforsupport said...

@12:10 why are people buying guns?

Anonymous said...

Why am I not surprised? You've allowed these lies as long as the comments were also in support of your own political motives. And look at the source of a recent link: NewsWars, run by the self-described psychopath and sociopath Alex Jones. I guess you've reaped what you've sown. And to add insult to injury I will make sure to vote for Unity since most everyone on this site opposes them and I certainly can't be on the same side as them on anything since they've shown that they are a bit nuts.

Anonymous said...

Trump supporter here. Trump lost. Was there fraud? I'm sure. Enough to flip the election? Not likely. Dems main fault was not being transparent enough during the election to not create any element of doubt.

We are a country tun by 2 minority extremes. Far right and far left. Problem is it's a battle as to who is the loudest and most publicized. Dems control the media so they have the most powerful voice. The silent center majority are forced to choose.

Trump didn't handle beginning of the pandemic well. His efforts though got the vaccine out which Biden takes credit for. Trump was in a no win situation. Either panic the country or say it will be alright. Neither would work.

Clearly dementia is setting in with Biden. It's sad and should have all our sympathy. Harris is not qualified to be President but she will be. This administration is the least transparent in history. All have to admit Trump's press conferences were more interesting.

James Eterno said...

Hillary Clinton lost all on her own in 2016 because of the antiquated electoral college and her refusal to campaign in the Midwest. It had nothing to do with the Russians. See how easy it is to go where the evidence takes you.

Republicans and Democrats want power. David Purdue and Kelly Loeffler are not stupid people. If they saw how the Democrats cheated to win in November, then surely they could stop it in January. But no, they lost twice and by more votes than Trump. Then, they both conceded instead of making asses of themselves.

https://www.11alive.com/mobile/article/news/politics/elections/georgia-senate-runoff-kelly-loeffler-concedes-to-raphael-warnock/85-dbd21790-687d-4795-92c1-b5ee22c05c72

https://www.nbcboston.com/news/national-international/gops-david-perdue-concedes-to-jon-ossoff-in-georgia-runoff/5717336/

If dear Sidney has the evidence to prove she was telling the truth about Dominion, then tell the court. Wouldn't that be better than hiding behind the "Oh it's just political rhetoric" defense?

Political speech is supposed to be "inexact"my foot. I was a chapter leader long enough to recognize bullshit when I see it. BS is all Sidney's got. Even Fox and OAN stopped reporting the BS conspiracies because they know they would be successfully sued. But it is still spewed in the comments here.

Anonymous said...

Take Powell out of the equation. State hearing after state hearing. Many witnesses. Real people. No mainstream news coverage. Anon2323 is right.

Anonymous said...

Plenty of coverage of the freaks at state hearings. Same assholes at capitol on Jan 6.

waitingforsupport said...

@4:54 pm...armed for what?

Anonymous said...

WFS, I’m not 100% sure. If I had to guess I think it would because they expect violence. There’s a unspoken fear that reparations will be coming and homes taken. Or complete anarchy. I don’t know. I think as people become more and more filled with hate and fear, and our politicians and media feed into it, there is real danger. As I drive around New York State I see completely segregated communities. When I’m in parts of Poughkeepsie, I’m in all black areas and I’m the only white person some of my friends up there know. They got plenty of guns too. They are more about the guy next door than the guy in the million dollar home with the rifle. I left there today and went to Bronxville and didn’t see one person of color. It’s racial segregation via economics - a subtler form, that is just as despicable and entrenched, but much more difficult to end than in your face racism or degenerate cops.

Anonymous said...

From author Heather Cox Richardson:

The Civil War began the process of linking the political power of people of color to a redistribution of wealth, and this rhetoric has haunted us ever since. When Ronald Reagan talked about the “Welfare Queen (a Black woman who stole tax dollars through social services fraud), when tea partiers called our first Black president a “socialist,” when Trump voters claimed to be reacting to “economic anxiety,” they were calling on a long history. Today, Republicans talk about “election integrity,” but their end game is the same as that of the former Confederates after the war: to keep Black and Brown Americans away from the polls to make sure the government does not spend tax dollars on public services.

waitingforsupport said...

I see. People are afraid that someone will take something from them. I can't wrap my mind around reparations and people having their homes taken. I mean who is going to take someone's home? The gov't? Hopefully it won't come to a civil war because i don't think too many rich people will suffer. Just us working stiffs. Stay safe. I have my gun. I don't want to use it.

Anonymous said...

Baltimore’s last 3 mayor’s were all arrested and charged with a crime.

Guess what party they belong to.

Anonymous said...

How do the gop election laws stop blacks but not whites? Blacks can't get ID?

Anonymous said...

The Brennan Center answered this one:

Over the past decade, half the states in the nation have placed new, direct burdens on people’s right to vote, abetted by a 2013 Supreme Court decision that struck down a key provision of the Voting Rights Act. And the racial cause and effect of these seemingly race-neutral laws are hard to escape.

Take strict voter ID.

These laws require voters to present a government-issued photo ID in order to vote, and they offer no meaningful fallback options for people who do not possess one of these IDs. Like their Jim Crow predecessors, strict voter ID laws are often defended by reference to a racially neutral need to defend the “integrity” of elections. Specifically, defenders claim that voter ID laws are needed to combat voter impersonation fraud. But study after study has shown that voter impersonation fraud is vanishingly rare.

Many also claim that these laws impose little burden because everyone has the requisite ID — but the reality is that millions of Americans don’t, and they are disproportionately people of color.

Look at North Dakota: a federal district court found that, when the state enacted its current ID law in 2017, 19 percent of Native Americans lacked qualifying ID compared to less than 12 percent of other potential voters.

Likewise, Texas permits voters to use a handgun license to vote, but not a student ID from a state university. More than 80 percent of handgun licenses issued to Texans in 2018 went to white Texans, while more than half of the students in the University of Texas system are racial or ethnic minorities.

Anonymous said...

Hey 10:14
Liberals See Race In Everything. Must be A Real Burden

Just Curious About Texas Voting Requirements
You Mentioned Race But Not Citizenship

Isn't It True For The Most Part That People Getting Handgun Licenses Are American Citizens. And If Its True Their Gun License Would Be An Excellent Form Of ID For Voting

But A State College Id May/Might/Can Be Issued To Non Citizens So It Might Not Be A good Form Of Voting ID

Anonymous said...

Why don't people of color have an ID? How do they get an apartment, bank account, credit card, go on a plane, buy alcohol, get a hotel, go to the doctor?

Anonymous said...

A private social services nonprofit near Seattle booted a foster family with four kids from its home. In their place? Friends of Youth will house unaccompanied migrants from the border.

This is absolutely soulless

Anonymous said...

Randi says this is presidential leadership.

Teachers will be sent to the San Diego Convention Center to provide in-person learning for the migrants being sheltered there.

But, many schools across San Diego have yet to resume in-person classes.

Anonymous said...

So help them get ID. It’s needed for every other significant thing done in America. Boarding a plane, getting into a courthouse, etc. it’s not racist. You lose the argument when you go there. It’s not poll races or literacy tests. They were racist. Anyone can get an id. If voting is important to them

Anonymous said...

We need voter ID. We also need to have convenient access and free ID for those who can’t afford it. Both can be done. The two sides don’t have to work against each other.

Most people I know who own guns, own them for home protection from common criminals. Others hunt. Not one person I know thinks their home will be confiscated for reparations and that they’ll shoot their way through it. Conservatives may be on line for ammo because like toilet paper it was scarce but it’s the liberals who are becoming new gun owners.

We’re all already in a kind of civil war. We are a completely divided nation. I’m not giving up my beliefs. Are you? Probably not either. So there will be no unity.

There will be continued violence. Our best hope is that it’s kept to a minimum. If Chauvin is acquitted, cities will burn. Suburbanites and those in the sticks will be just fine because that’s where the antifa common criminal crowd always meets it’s first resistance. They know they can burn the cities. They know they’ll have their asses handed to them elsewhere.

Anonymous said...

The poor don't get ID because they trust the government less than you anti-government libertarians. You conservatives are willing to sponge off of them by teaching in the Bronx but heaven forbid they vote because they may get some power. WOULD will lose every trick in the book and creat new ones to keep them down. Back to the topic, Trump still lost and Powell presented nothing to refute that where it matters, in court.

Anonymous said...

So it’s not the poverty or their skin color. It’s their paranoia that stops them from obtaining ID? Ok. Still no ID, no vote is a good idea. I don’t trust my government. Never have despite who is in White House. I have 3 forms of legal ID. Driver’s, gun, passport. People who function in society have identification. Don’t expect me to feel bad because the Ted Kazinskys of the world don’t want ID. Not trusting the government is a lame excuse. They don’t trust the govt but they think the government runs fair elections and their vote counts and want to vote without ID. Are they all so fucking stupid that they don’t realize they submitted their info to a government agency in order to register?

Anonymous said...

Scholarly research:

Texas had more stringent requirements in 2014 — it required a photo ID to vote. Fraga and Miller estimate that voters without an ID in 2016 were 14 percentage points less likely to vote in Texas two years earlier than individuals who voted with an ID in 2016.

Texans offered various reasons why they didn’t have a qualifying ID for the 2016 general election. Nearly 30 percent said their IDs had been lost or stolen. About 11.5 percent cited work obligations while another 4 percent said family obligations prevented them from getting one.

Nearly 36 percent of individuals without IDs checked the “other” box, many of whom indicated they had moved so their current address didn’t match what was listed on their IDs.

Of those who selected the “other” option, 1.4 percent — 82 people — cited cost as the reason they didn’t have the appropriate ID.

Anonymous said...

This is from ACLU:

Millions of Americans Lack ID. 11% of U.S. citizens – or more than 21 million Americans – do not have government-issued photo identification.1

•Obtaining ID Costs Money. Even if ID is offered for free, voters must incur numerous costs (such as paying for birth certificates) to apply for a government-issued ID.
•Underlying documents required to obtain ID cost money, a significant expense for lower-income Americans. The combined cost of document fees, travel expenses and waiting time are estimated to range from $75 to $175.2
•The travel required is often a major burden on people with disabilities, the elderly, or those in rural areas without access to a car or public transportation. In Texas, some people in rural areas must travel approximately 170 miles to reach the nearest ID office.

3Voter ID Laws Reduce Voter Turnout. A 2014 GAO study found that strict photo ID laws reduce turnout by 2-3 percentage points,4 which can translate into tens of thousands of votes lost in a single state.

Anonymous said...

It is all about suppressing the poor peoples' vote. Which party do they vote for mostly?

Anonymous said...

Federal Voter ID Cards for voting, getting on planes, proof of vaccines, —-but yet the same people cry foul—when they suggest federal ID for gun ownership

Anonymous said...

The new Jim Crow. Keep those people down. Just find new methods.

Anonymous said...

I'm confused. The people who can't get an ID are coincidentally the same people who lead in crime and single parent households while lagging in income, education. Could they maybe, possibly be the problem?

Anonymous said...

Hey @10;13
"Those People" As You Put It Are Doing A Fantastic Job Keeping Themselves Down.

Out Of Wedlock Births
Voting For The Same Political party That Has kept Them Dependent On The Government
Under Educated/ Dropping Out Of School
ETC.....

Those Asian Kids Are Doing Just Great . I Wonder Why


Must Be Behavior And Not Old Jim Crow Thats Restricting The Advancement Of Some In Our Great Country
Keep Playing The Victims And Making Excuses For Poor Decisions.

Jim Crowe, Really You Guys Are Still Using That Lame Excuses.

Anonymous said...

How would you solve the problem? By making it harder for the poor to vote so we can get in office more people to represent Amazon and Walmart and fuck over the poor more?

Anonymous said...

Great question and thanks for the debate, you know James the debate we should be having on this blog and not censored.

1. Sop Our Open Borders Policy And Direct The Billions We Spend On Illegals, yes illegals not undocumented aliens on our own citizens. Better Job Training, Education And Even using The Money For Voter ID For Those Who Say they Can't Afford It
2. Stop Outsourcing Our Jobs To Other Countries, Especially In Asia. Hint China, Vietnam, South Korean, India. These Jobs Should/Must Be Given To American Citizens To Raise Their Standard Of Living And Make Them More Self Reliant And Less dependent On The Ever Controlling Federal And State Governments.
3. Raise Instead Of Lowering Our Educational standards. Many Educational Departments throughout Our Country Have Lowered Their Educational standards An Expectations To Fix Some Leftist Radical Agenda. You Know The Ones.
4. Reduce The Out Of Wedlock Birthrate That Any Idiot Knows Is An Important Economic And Social Factor In Determining Future Success. (Open To ideas On This One)

Gotta Run But Would Like To Expand On My Thoughts Later, And Look Forward To Hearing Other Solutions To Our Great Countries Many Challenges Going Forward. Using Racism As A Excuse Is A Very Lazy Way Of Not Taking Personal Responsibility. I Know The Media Eats Up The Racism, White Supremacy Narrative But It Doesn't Really Do Anything To Advance The Cause Of Solving Generational Issiue In Our Nations Needest Communities. God Bless

Anonymous said...

The same people who are beating on Asians daily.

Anonymous said...

The dregs of society are the ones represented in 1031.

Anonymous said...

10:04 one of the Capitalist parties.

Anonymous said...

10:05. it prevents both. class is an important factor.

https://indivisible.org/resource/voter-id-101-right-vote-shouldnt-come-barriers

https://rewirenewsgroup.com/ablc/2014/10/16/well-actually-pretty-hard-people-get-photo-id-just-vote/

Anonymous said...

11:22 many people don't have those things or access to them, or a need for them depending on their lives and locations. these are all problems of poverty, systemic problems that keep poverty in existence. a good question to raise and definitely something to look into.

Anonymous said...

1:21 poverty and rural conditions create barriers to ID access. these are people that do not go on planes.

Anonymous said...

1031 victims of poverty are not the problem. the system that creates those conditions is the problem.

and you don't have to use coded language. just say what you mean when you say "they."

Anonymous said...

1115. open borders? talk about a narrative that doesn't add up..

the system of government is the problem here. that is the common denominator. outsourcing jobs is part of the Capitalist system. are you willing to challenge it?

Anonymous said...

So the people who dont have access to ID have access to brand new i-phones and $200 sneakers and diamond necklaces and gucci bags? Who get guaranteed income based on govt dependency?

Anonymous said...

1145, Or those people could get educated, not have child out of wedlock, not by lazy, not disrespect people, not resort to crime.

Anonymous said...

WFS,
Further update on long lines at gun shops - One of my suburban buddies told me this morning that many people are expecting George Floyd’s killer to get off, and that it will precipitate massive violent protests. I sure hope they’re wrong.

Anonymous said...

11:51 is trotting out Reagan's welfare queen argument which does not hold up to scrutiny.

https://theconversation.com/life-on-welfare-isnt-what-most-people-think-it-is-139526

As I explain in my forthcoming book, “Overthrowing the Queen: Telling Stories of Welfare in America,” the reasons people find themselves needing assistance are numerous and interrelated. Many children born poor remain poor as they grow up and raise their own families, inheriting the financial hardships of the past as continued pressure in the present.

Millions of Americans still can’t get a quality education, jobs that pay a living wage, affordable child care to offset low-wage labor or reliable transportation. But more than anything else, health problems emerged in our interviews as one of the most pervasive causes, and results, of poverty.

first glance, people receiving public aid may seem to confirm popular stereotypes. But actual stories reveal that there is much more to many recipients’ situations than outside viewers might imagine.

For instance, a casual observer in the grocery store could see a woman I’ll call Keira dressed immaculately, with carefully coiffed hair and manicured nails, buying her groceries with food stamps and conclude that she was one more “welfare queen” gaming the system.

But as a newly single mother of two who had just gone through a divorce, Keira was trying to find a home and a job in a new city. Her clothing and appearance reflected the life she had recently led, and the jobs she was applying for, not excessive or illegitimate aid benefits. Keira’s use of food stamps was temporary. She soon found two jobs and is able to help put her children through college.

Aid is less temporary for others. “Davey” often smokes outside the local homeless shelter. He knows cigarettes are not good for him, but they provide him comfort as he deals with a degenerative joint disease, broken spine, and extensive nerve damage that went undiagnosed for years because he didn’t have health insurance. He eventually got the health care he needed and has applied for disability, but he lost his job and his home and will likely never walk again.

“Lilly” has a dog, even though she needs food stamps to feed herself and gets free health care. She was homeless for a while until she was able to afford a room in a boarding house and then qualify for subsidized housing. But it wasn’t always this way. Lilly was married with a home and a thriving Avon business.

After only a few years of marriage, she realized that if she stayed with the physically and emotionally abusive man she had married, she might not survive. She escaped, only to find herself in a new town with no money, no home, no family and no job. Her dog may seem like an unnecessary expense, but he provides crucial comfort for Lilly as she moves toward self-sufficiency.

Anonymous said...

12:07: I can't see any reasonable doubt in the case. The defense is trying to argue that Floyd had underlying conditions and drugs in his system, but that would mean that Floyd would have had to die on his own even if Chuavin didn't try to restrain him. The drugs may have contributed to his death, but Chauvin directly caused it. That's like Covid 19 killing more people with underlying conditions than those without. We blame the death on Covid, not the underlying condition. Their other argument is that Chauvin was distracted by the crowd even though you can hear Floyd on the tape say "I can't breath 27 times." The only possibility I can see the defense going for is to try to declare a mistrial saying Chauvin couldn't get a fair trial in the same city the incident occurred.

Anonymous said...

So my students have a lunch form that states the household income is 12k yet there is money for the most expensive material goods imaginable, most expensive and totally unnecessary.
So now it is all because of abusive relationships. That may be a rare case. And if the relationship was so abusive, why get pregnant? Could ask the teen students the same question, but you wouldn't. Neither did Michelle Obama.

Anonymous said...

Riots by whom?

Anonymous said...

Black on Asian crimes only occur because of our system of white supremacy that strips African Americans of their economic opportunities while taking respect and dignity away from Asian Americans. Also, white people in power are experts at dividing and conquering to stay in power.

Anonymous said...

Capitalism good. Too much outsourcing bad. I don’t like paying for other people’s mistakes. The poor poor victims routine is tiresome. Life is about choices. Keep making bad choices, keep having a bad life. Personal responsibility needs a comeback.

Anonymous said...

So that is the excuse. No wonder they are the permanent underclass.

James Eterno said...

As usual, you guys are off and running on your own instead of sticking to the election but the voter ID laws are at least close to the topic. Still waiting for someone to show anything in Powell's court filing that shows how Dominion machines were controlled the ghost of Hugo Chavez or some Democratic Party operative to flip thousands or tens of millions of votes around to steal the election.

Anonymous said...

There are absolutely NO good reasons to not want everyone to vote.

Anonymous said...

How did floyd have a mercedes? His occupation is listed as rapper.

Anonymous said...

The ‘I Really Didn’t Mean It’ defense was Johnny Cochran’s back up defense plan for OJ. Luckily, he didn’t have to use that strategy since the glove didn’t fit OJ’s hand,

waitingforsupport said...

@11:15 am... you're a clueless victim and you don't even know it. SMH.

waitingforsupport said...

@11:51... Folks BRAG about collecting a salary while pretend teaching and supporting a system that engages in social promotion/ produces fake diplomas but then question why this SAME system gives people money? Yep sounds like NYC brightness is in the house. Let me help you out: Since the system fu"ks up, the system must pay up. You shouldn't worry about what people decide to do with their $$$. If you can't even stand up for yourself during a pandemic don't pretend to have the answer to someone else's concern.

waitingforsupport said...

@2:10 pm...Personal responsibility never left. Once the playing field is really leveled, make room for what I know to be true: The USA will then be great. As it stands, we just have too many watered down yahoos claiming they made "good choices".

Anonymous said...

I am triggered by the word 'riot' above. They were mostly peaceful protests for justice.
In other news: China rolls over U.S. military by shouting wrong pronouns at troops.

Anonymous said...

As part of my research into white supremacy, I keep looking on social media for videos of white supremacists assaulting Asian Americans. Can’t find any! What I do see is video after video of blacks beating up Asians. This is so frustrating! Can anyone help me out here?

Anonymous said...

1222 thank you

Anon2323 said...

JAMES COULD NEVER EVER EVER BE A COP, HE COULDNT EVEN FIGURE OUT WHERE WALDO IS!

Here is a montage for you James on voting machines, country shopuld be following texas and florida with voting.


HERE IS PELOSI (4:34 mark)

https://duckduckgo.com/q=pelosi+on+voting+machines+early+2000s&t=hc&va=o&iax=videos&ia=videos&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DzGBQ4105Yzk


from PBS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L86lAdEGQ0U

https://citizensentinelsnetwork.com/editorial/last-year-elizabeth-warren-filed-complaint-that-dominion-voting-machines-switched-votes/

https://theminnesotasun.com/2020/11/18/in-letter-to-dominion-investor-klobuchar-said-issues-with-voting-machines-threaten-integrity-of-elections/

Anonymous said...

210 Capitalism is anti-choice. You have no choice in companies outsourcing, for instance. The best of us still come out on the bottom, because there is no choice but to have a large poor population, a bottom class, in a class system. It must always be larger than the upper and middle class. No choice in the matter. But cool, blame the poor, as if people choose to be poor.

James Eterno said...

Sidney could use all of this but instead chose the I didn't mean to be taken literally defense. Why? You can show me 2323 videos but I want know why she in her court papers chose to use the I have a first amendment right to BS defense.

waitingforsupport said...

@4:27pm...
Hah. Have you not seen how they are depicted in movies? Books? Didn't you see what happened in Atlanta? Queens?Have you spoken with and more importantly listened to your asian neighbors? Try listening to asian politicians. Do you know how some of our asian brothers and sisters feel about the devisive term "model minority"? Go outside your normal resources in order to learn more. Asians are now speaking up and out. Good for them. Unfortunately they are being attacked by racist a$$ mfers of all races: white black Hispanic, etc. You sound ignorant.

waitingforsupport said...

@Anon2323...
You should really move on. It's over.

Anonymous said...

no victimi here waiting for support just reaping the benefits of success from my families choices.
you know getting a good education, putting needs over wants, not doing drugs and committing crimes, waiting until marriage to have children, waiting to have enough money to have children,, not relying on the government to support us. basic economics if you want to succeed in the greatest country on earth. but yeah keep playing the victims it has really helped improve the economic and social standing of the people you speak about.

Maybe Stop Voting For The Same Political Party That Has Ruined Or Great Nations Big Cities And Has Continue To Keep people Dependent On The Government. Using Race And A Level Playing Field As A Reason Is A Lazy Analysis. Please Join Us On Our Level Playing Field But Just Make Sure You Put Needs Over Wants, Stay In School Until You Learn A Skill You Can Make Money From etc..

As An Economics Teacher For Like Forever The Way to Succeed In A Country With Numerous opportunities To Build Generational Wealth Is To Put Needs Over Wants, Get An Education, HaVe Children After Marriage And You Have Enough Money To Afford Them. I Have More If You Would Like To Discuss, Very Fascinating Topic)

Just Want To Thank My Poor Legal Immigrant GrandParents And Parents For Working Hard, Putting Needs Over Wants And Building Generational Wealth.

People Seem To Have Plenty Of Money When It Comes To Wants But Cant Find Their Wallet When It Comes To Needs.

Anonymous said...

This is where you need to start to comprehend people like anon2323.

https://www.cnet.com/google-amp/news/qanon-what-to-know-before-watching-q-into-the-storm/

They can't let go.

Anonymous said...

Can you show me the video? Would you like the constant black on Asian attacks.

Anonymous said...

You argue this?

FBI UCR:

- Blacks commit 88% of interracial crime against whites

- Blacks are 13% of the population and commit 56% of the murders

Like it or not, data is data.

In the FBI's 2019 crime stats, the 13.4% of the US population who are black made up 55.9% of known murder offenders. So, blacks are 8.2 times as likely per capita to be known murder offenders as are nonblacks

James Eterno said...

This has nothing to with posting, nothing.

waitingforsupport said...

@5:07 pm.... i hear that! Now wouldn't it be nice if you and/or the system that provided you with an education extended the same to others? Novel idea. My family built this country--my country. My grandfather and his brothers didn't have an education At all. The system denied them the opportunity. He didn't have a CHOICE. No worries because that great man bought acres of water front land in SC that are owned by me and my cousins today (104 years later). I'm the sloucher in a family of doctors lawyers law enforcement entrepreneurs educators and military officers. We all have choices but sometimes believe it or not, systems get in the way. Hell look at March. Look at the rage and anger expressed by some folks on this blog because they had to work over spring break 2020. They are losing their sh*t over a week. A week. Read the comments from our colleagues about passing students because the "woke" chancellor and mayor says to do so. You talk about Choices? Let me do to your relatives what has been done to my relatives. Let me tell your grandfather that he shouldn't grow his own vegetables to feed his family. Choices. My grandfather and his brothers handled their business when bit^*es came around in their white sheets trying to intimidate them. His courage and faith in God provided me and my family with generational wealth. One thing I won't do is screw over students by siding with a system (doe) that is supposed to educate. Even if 1 student out of 10,000 is interested in my class--im going to make sure that one student gets my best. I thank God for my family's integrity that i witnessed and practice. Choices. Sh^t or warm sh^t. Which would you choose?
Ps... until my country's government pays me for the work my great grandfather did for free, any and all money my government gives me or people who look like me should be chalked up as back pay. You know, like the back pay folks are asking for from last spring recess. Just saying. Welcome to my country.

Anonymous said...

What? There have been anti white, anti teacher posts. There have been people saying that teachers are the same as criminals because they give fake grades and the same as welfare recipients. Also that Asians are being held down by Whites, meanwhile they are actually getting attacked by blacks. QANON is also mentioned. It was also stated that blacks have been held down forever so they are entitled to get free money forever. Just asking to state factual data.

Anonymous said...

@5:03 try going outside the Narrative and you will find Atlanta was not race-based. Obama's DOJ published a detailed account of crime-by-color; if that's your interest you can easily find the stats.

Anonymous said...

@5:07 blaming "the system" is so much easier than what u propose.

waitingforsupport said...

@Anon2323...my apologies to you. I misspoke.

waitingforsupport said...

@5:47pm...
Look up slave salaries

Anonymous said...

stop25;34, you are making too much sense. James is going to censor you. I believe 5:34 was responding to the earlier post @ 4;27 about asian crime. the left were desperately trying to change the narrative and deflect from who is really attacking asians in this country. As a result they said that whites were more likely to attack asians, but the liberals know the truth. they are so invested in liberalism they cant tuen back now, because if they did they would need to admit they have been wrong all along.

@ 3:30 liberals have created the social promotion, no testing, fake grade, "fu"ks up" your words not mine system. if a kid fails my class i'm a racist, if a kid fails my class its the racists teachers fault system was created by.... yes you know the answer. the title student accoutablilty system was created by .... you crack me up waiting for support but I enjoy reading your posts

most principals are liberal
our union is liberal
our city government is liberal
our state government is liberal
and saving the best for last, The DOE Is Liberal

But Lets Blame White Supremacy When Most City Governments, you know the ones that can really help our most challenging Communities are liberal . Can't make this stuff up

waitingforsupport said...

@5:49 pm... it's the interest of the "anon" who interjects race into everything and then gets upset when it's addressed. It's interesting how my addressing is more troubling to you than the initial "anon" comment. Anywho I'm not surprised by it. And maybe you should listen to the Asian community in Atlanta because some view the matter different from what's being reported.

waitingforsupport said...

@5:51pm...what is wrong with blaming the perpetrator? The DOE hasn't paid us for last spring recess. Who's to blame? You? Me? The DOE with support from some teachers are graduating students who should not graduate. Who's to blame? The students or the DOE (system)? This ain't rocket science. Come on now.

Anonymous said...

Ok, so let us say that w4s is correct and every single teacher is not teaching. Every single teacher gives fake grades. So every student is getting no instruction, and passing with no merit, how are 2 groups doing well and 2 are doing horribly? Why is the crime concentrated in certain backgrounds. If some teachers are teaching and grading fairly you need to stop making blanket statements just to make an excuse for those who always fail and commit crime. I guess you were the only one of 80k who graded honestly.

Anonymous said...

If below is true, explain the outcome difference. Unless all the bad teachers just happen to be in the 88% of schools that are 100% minority.

"Folks BRAG about collecting a salary while pretend teaching and supporting a system that engages in social promotion/ produces fake diplomas but then question why this SAME system gives people money? Yep sounds like NYC brightness is in the house. Let me help you out: Since the system fu"ks up, the system must pay up. You shouldn't worry about what people decide to do with their $$$. If you can't even stand up for yourself during a pandemic don't pretend to have the answer to someone else's concern."

waitingforsupport said...

@6:06 pm... before you ask your crew or yourself (i can't tell if one anon is commenting or 20) let's be clear: did I say "every single teacher" or did you?

waitingforsupport said...

@5:56pm...soo it's your belief that liberals are the friend of black brown asians. Is it your belief that Trump won? Is it also your belief that white supremacists do not exist? Just asking for a friend.

Anonymous said...

Ok, so it isn't every single teacher. Now explain the coincidental constant underperformance in education, salary, savings, crime. And yes, there are bad white people, but the crime and Asian attacks or coming from one place per capita, by far.

Anonymous said...

The level of poverty in one area does impact that same area's crime rate. Although there are other factors to committing crime, poverty is a big one. Using our resources and focus to help solving poverty and raising the income levels will lead to positive changes in crime and result in a lower crime rate.

Anonymous said...

@6:23
Have No Idea what you mean?

Not Sure Who Really Won The Election, Hard To Imagine Republicans Picking Up Over A Dozen House Seats But Losing The Presidential Election. Not Sure If That Has Ever Happened Before. But Im Not Here Debating That An I Haven't mentioned It Once In Any Of My Posts. It Is What It is. In My Mind Biden Is President, Just hope he is up to the challenge

Not Sure What The Definition Of White Supremacy Actually Is. Im More Concerned And You Should Be Also In Government, Liberalism, And Chinese Communist Supremacy. Have Your Friend Ask Me That Questions Themself. lol
Enjoy your evening

Anonymous said...

402 years of oppression of blacks leads to more poverty resulting in more crime. Growing inequality doesn't help either.

Anonymous said...

The poverty-homicide association implies that instead of “relative deprivation”, “absolute deprivation” is mainly responsible for violent crime. Poverty is the mother of crime. —Marcus Aurelius (121-180AD), Emperor of the Roman Empire

Marcus figured this out in the second century. Can those here who want to blame skin color get that?

Anonymous said...

No, person committing crime is responsible. Plenty of poor Asians who don't commit crime or kill or rape or carjack or pummel people on the nyc subway.

Anonymous said...

As many of you have probably already realized I'm not the smartest person in the world, not even close but I have read every post and cant find anyone blaming skin color. please reference where someone was blaming based on skin color.

I believe, but I may be wrong, Im wrong a lot , that we were discussing the reasons why certain groups are having generational challenges succeeding

some said it was because of the playing field not being level, whatever that catch phrase of the left means
some said because of white supremacy, whatever that catch phrase of the left means
some said it was because of choices, education, skills, needs and wants etc..

very interesting and mostly respectful discussion

Anonymous said...

Waiting for support...

Chillll......your so angry! Light up a spliff and relax.

Anonymous said...

@7:05 can u name us some countries where blacks are less "oppressed"? As a black man I wanna go there.
U can start by listing African countries. Ill wait.

waitingforsupport said...

@654...so we agree that there are bad white black brown Asian green whatever people. You want to speak of per capita? Tell the families of the Atlanta vics and the vics attacked by whites that they don't count. There are many socioeconomic reasons for some children to underperform. Constant underperformance is a reach. Tell that to the many accomplished people of color who inspite of a system, have been successful. Salary is often attached to education. You do know that right? Or maybe I shouldn't assume that. In spite of similar education people of color earn less than their counterparts. You mentioned crime. While the numbers and race are crucial to you, the act is more important to me. If you feel so strongly about people of color being the buggieman, why do you work in inner city schools? Couldn't you find a job working at a school where the students look like you? Did you apply? Did they not want to hire you? Why not? Are you not competent enough to work with students who you have more faith in? Maybe parents who look like you prefer that you not teach their children. You seem to need to feel better about yourself. I hope things work out for you. PS my husband's cousin graduated from MIT in 2015. I guess he constantly underperformed. His parents attended school in the Bronx in the early 80s. They constantly underperformed too. Your theory seems to fit your own little narrative. You're better than. Yep. Gotcha

waitingforsupport said...

@7:04pm...
Consider yourself asked. While you spin your wheels figuring out the 2020 election results us folks in the real world will keep it moving.

waitingforsupport said...

@711pm...your guess is as good as mine.

Anonymous said...

@7:24 haven't you heard that there's some new shit about Asians internalizing white supremacy? Saw it on cnn n shit.

Anonymous said...

@745...she's almost always angry, often wrong, but never uncertain...

Anonymous said...

NBER study

Job applicants with white names needed to send about 10 resumes to get one callback; those with African-American names needed to send around 15 resumes to get one callback.

waitingforsupport said...

@7:45 pm...lol. Dont be obtuse. First I am very relaxed and second if I were angry, I have a right to be. "To be a negro in this country and to be relatively conscious is to be in a rage almost all of the time". Guess who said it?
P.s. Did you tell the educators on here who curse and rage on the daily to chill? If they aren't angry about March, they are angry about Mulgrew. Cuomo. The election. Blacks. I don't recall your telling them to chill. Keep it moving. Get your spliffs and get ready for tomorrow.

Anonymous said...

Who’s the biggest victim? Oohhh pick me pick me. It’s getting real played out. I’ll say it here for the millionth time. The most progressive mayor and chancellor have run the school system. Most of the administrators I’ve worked with are liberals. Teachers who pass kids are doing exactly what DeBlasio and Carranza and now probably Porter want them to do. Who the hell is anyone to tell me to stop doing what my employers are paying me to do? You’re beef is with the chancellor and mayor. I’m just doing what my bosses tell me to do. It’s not my fault they’re morons ruining the education of children. Vote them out if you don’t like it.

Anonymous said...

Who the hell is anyone to tell me to stop doing what my employers are paying me to do?

Just following orders didn't work too well at Nuremberg. It won't do well in NY with teachers either.

Anonymous said...

@ 7:50 by oppressing themselves with the choices they make, made not sure which one it is
liberals are so easily manipulated to believe anything the leftest media tells them
where you going? I'll wait

I continue to crack myself up
@ 8;15, no spinning wheels got a few flat tires. haven't tried to figure out anything about the election until today. like I said it is what it is, no sense in in debating the outcome, I haven't mentioned it once until you asked. dementia Joe is president and that's all I need to know

please tell me more about the fake white supremacy narrative that you continue to use as an excuse for the challenges facing specific communities in our country

waitingforsupport said...

@8:52pm ... Lmao.
Nah. Educate yourself. Besides you should focus on your own many many challenges. An immediate concern is that your employer and union have no respect for you and prove it on the daily.

Anonymous said...

8:25: I'm having trouble believing that figure since there is such a push in the doe to hire "Teachers of color."

waitingforsupport said...

@8:52pm when doing your research dont forget about all of the accomplishments, contributions and magnificence of specific communities in my country. Oooh the culture is so rich. Im beyond proud. I love it.

waitingforsupport said...

@832pm.
Thank you for confirming what I said earlier.

waitingforsupport said...

@822...you're always anon. Always victimized by your employer and union and always out of touch with reality. Get a spliff from uncle Ob

waitingforsupport said...

@8:32pm...the biggest victim doesn't recognize others and assumes superiority based on a lie.

waitingforsupport said...

To all:
Ch 7 Soul of a Nation is on.
Enjoy

Marc said...

I was denied access to a job fair because I'm white. The doe has specific colored male teacher job fails. Uft didn't respond when I told them. "An immediate concern is that your employer and union have no respect for you and prove it on the daily." As far as that quote goes, 130k plus per session to not teach and then a 6 figure pension until i die while the students will spend their whole life on minimum wage and living in crime infested neighborhoods...Who is the joke on? The doe did this, not me. This is equity. Happy? Proud? Students couldn't achieve so here we are.

Anonymous said...

The DOe is not ordering me to gas the students. Hyperbolic much? What they do order me to do is teach to their curriculum in a way modeled by coaches and over paid consultants. Unfortunately the curriculum is totally lacking in providing basic literacy and math skills and the manner in which these lessons are to be taught doesn’t work. But I was hired to do it all anyway. I am also ordered to give students passing grades as long as they try. When I asked for the definition of trying I was told, “Well really they all try. They have it hard you know.”If the community has a problem with this, take it up with the mayor and chancellor. I only implement what they sanction.

Wah wah wah I’m the biggest victim. It’s me and my people..... pathetic. Only the choir buys this preached bullshit anymore. The real world is waking up to the nonsense spewed by the nonsensical left which is sounding pretty racist these days.

My employers and union have no respect for me? Oh golly gee how will I ever live with myself? Only the emotionally needy give a fuck what others think about them. Respect from schmucks is not something I covet. But do your thing if their respect is important to you.



Kids still in cages. Way more than under Trump. Trump let the press in. Biden banned the press from seeing as the dems call it a crime against humanity.

Anonymous said...

12:34. The prosecution just started presenting its case. The defense has yet to present theirs. There’s a reason why we don’t convict people by popular vote after watching clips of the first couple of days of trial on the news or even if we watched the couple of days of a 2 week trial in full. I don’t care if Chauvin is accused of raping and dismembering children. Every American deserves a fair trial. Watch the trial in its entirety, then debate whether the state of MN met its burden with the evidence presented at trial.

Anonymous said...

But they dont arrest white people.

Update: The black male suspect wanted over the brutal beating of a 65-year-old Asian woman has been arrested & identified as Brandon Elliot. He had been released from prison & is serving parole for killing his own mother.

Anonymous said...

423 thanks for the laugh. 427. Have you found anything yet? I haven’t.

James Eterno said...

This post was on the Powell trial, not the Chauvin trial. It saddens me that many of the people commenting are people I perceive as being right wing teachers who can't make a coherent argument on Sidney Powell's "I have a First Amendment right to bullshit" defense so you pivot to talk about anything but dear Sidney. She admits to being "inexact" which means "not quite accurate or true." She also concedes to being "vituperative" which means "bitter and abusive." Commenters who tried to stay on topic sent us to websites that continue the inexact wording but nobody after repeated requests from me could answer why Powell admitted to being full of shit in court papers but didn't submit in court documents any of the BS that is all over the internet. If she had the goods, she would have produced them in court to defend herself. I think I made my point.

Commenters here constantly complain about the DOE forcing you to pass students who don't deserve to. There is a group in the union called UFT Solidarity that will fight these things that are contractual. Their leaders wrote to the Chief. While that Solidarity letter did pretty well here, it got only 3 comments.

As I said in the original posting, "I am tired of having to waste time arguing here with ridiculous theories..." so this last day has been a pain in the ass trying to keep up with the off the rails comments.

I have gone out of my way to be fair to folks who fundamentally disagree with the premise of this blog which is to organize collectively for UFTer rights. I know I've said it before but it is really time for me to once again try to enforce the no hijacking posts rule.

If you can't tell me about dear Sidney's "I have a first amendment right to bullshit" defense (no sentence on that and then flying off the rails), then please comment somewhere else. Thank you.

Anonymous said...

only "right wing" Commentators? both wings did it not just us so called "right wingers"
showing your bias again James

and thank you for letting us discuss/debate our hijacked topic. wasn't done on purpose

Anon2323 said...

James I dare you to watch scientific proof on https://lindelltv.com/
Only 1 hour. Physicist will break it down for you and anyone else not believing election fraud.

Statistically and mathematically impossible.

James Eterno said...

I applaud you for trying 2323.

Here is your answer from the Minneapolis Star Tribune. Dear Sidney could have presented this evidence in her court papers. She didn't. I may have been fooled in my life but not like the My pillow guy is trying to fool all of you. We all thought there was going to be a red mirage as Trump discouraged mail in ballots that we all knew would be counted later. It is not evidence. Let the professional at the Star Tribune do the work here.

Mike Lindell has been one of the loudest and most prominent voices pushing election fraud conspiracy theories, starting almost immediately after the 2020 election. To date, Lindell has produced no original evidence of his own, either publicly or after multiple requests from the Star Tribune. Instead, Lindell relies on previously-debunked claims from other sources to back up his argument that both foreign and domestic actors "stole" the election from Donald Trump.

1. Machine fraud
Lindell claims that Dominion Voting Systems preloaded algorithms in its voting machines around the country to illegally give more votes to Joe Biden than Trump. This scheme was "revealed," he said, when many more votes than expected came in for Trump on election night, thereby "breaking" Dominion's algorithm and forcing co-conspirators to shut down vote counting to tilt races back toward Biden. To bolster this claim, Lindell pointed to delays in tabulating ballots across multiple swing states.

Who first claimed this: Attorney Sidney Powell, who is also being sued for defamation by Dominion, began making the claim about machine algorithms as early as Nov. 8 via frequent social media posts, in numerous conservative media interviews and at news conferences while as a temporary associate of Trump's legal team. She did not provide evidence and Trump's legal team later cut ties with Powell.

Fact-check: The federal agency that oversees U.S. election security — the CyberSecurity & Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) — stated that there is no evidence that any of Dominion's systems switched votes for Trump to count for Biden. CISA also reported that changes in vote totals in the days after Election Day reflected the increase in mail voting — with states having different policies for counting such ballots — and not evidence of wrongdoing.

Anonymous said...

When did Dominion open their system to investigation? Last I heard they’ve yet to do so? Did that change?

James Eterno said...

Already been debunked over and over.

One example:

Duncan Buell, a professor of computer science and engineering at the University of South Carolina, said the report seemed eager to conclude fraud. He said Dominion’s software isn’t perfect, but that isn’t the same as a company creating software to commit fraud.

“When I read this report what I see … is that every time there is a problem referenced in the software, the report instantly jumps to malice and intent,” Buell said.

He said that the existence of the hand-marked, paper ballots allowed for confidence in the results.

“The audit of the human-marked paper is going to be the best record we have of what the voters intended,” he said.

And, as we said, the audit has now affirmed that the systems used didn’t change the outcome.

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/12/audit-in-michigan-county-refutes-dominion-conspiracy-theory/

Once again, why is this theory in dear Sidney's court papers or did she use the I have a right to bullshit defense?

Anon2323 said...

JAMES THANKS FPR THE APPLAUSE I APPRECIATE THAT. I will slow down on my rhetoric by December if nothing transpires. Dominion machines all should have been seized and looked at immediately. African American Republican John James was also robbed by michigan (detroit and philly fucking shady ass places)

CAN YOU AT LEAST WATCH ABSOLUTE PROOF?? OR SCIENTIFIC PROOF? JUST WATCH.

Dems rather continue this crap, using faulty machines, mail-in with no idea, no signature matching, no voter id, just interested in power.

James Eterno said...

I watched some of it.. It was laughable.. Still no answer on why this stuff wasn't in Sidney's court papers. Two can play the voter fraud game. At least my side can win in court and isn't funded by the anti-union Koch.

https://www.gregpalast.com/wp-content/uploads/Header-B2.pngKoch.

James Eterno said...

Our side testifies in court.
We are not afraid of the truth.

Hidden Horrors in the Georgia Vote Law
by Greg Palast for Truthout

When we first reported that handing a slice of pizza to a voter waiting three hours in a line is now a felony in Georgia, other media ate it up (forgive me my puns). It’s easy to understand the cruelty of plantation-minded Georgia Republicans making Black folk suffer from hunger and thirst in lines the GOP deliberately made long by closing polling stations in minority precincts.

imageBut there are greater horrors than pizza prohibition hidden in the 95 pages of Georgia’s new anti-voting law.
Donald Trump infamously demanded the Georgia Secretary of State “find 11,780” votes. The MAGA mafia in the Georgia legislature found 364,541 votes to cancel, that is, voters whose ballots would be blocked from the count in the next election.

To understand how this mass attack on citizens will work, we have to go back to December 21, just before the Georgia Senate run-offs, when True the Vote, a Texas group founded by Tea Party crusader Catherine Engelbrecht, challenged the right of 364,541 Georgians to cast ballots. You read that number right: more than a third of a million voters almost lost their vote.

Almost. County elections boards, facing threats by the ACLU and Stacey Abrams’ Fair Fight, rejected the challenges, noting that the numbers were too huge to be credible. One voter can challenge another if they have personal knowledge that the other voter is a fraud. The local shills used by the Texas group knew nothing of those they challenged.

The new law specifically authorizes unlimited challenges. And Georgia’s Republican Secretary of State has gleefully invited True the Vote to attack voter rolls. (For more on Sec. of State Brad Raffensperger, whom voting rights lawyer Gerald Griggs calls the “Vote Suppressor in Chief,” see my report for Democracy Now!.

But won’t those same county boards kick any new absurd challenges? The MAGA mob in the Legislature has got that covered. Under the new law, the State Board of Elections can remove a county board if it doesn’t, in the State’s opinion, rule properly on these challenges.

And who will make up the State Board? The new law hands over the board to the GOP leaders of the Legislature plus a representative of Republican Governor Brian Kemp, infamous for his own manipulations of the voter rolls which gave him the gubernatorial race against Stacey Abrams.

The True the Vote challenges, officially backed by the Republican Party, centered on Atlanta counties heavy with voters of color. Voting rights attorney Barbara Arnwine, founder of Transformative Justice Coalition and co-plaintiff with Black Voters Matter, warns that the new state board will have the authority to remove the local board and override local decisions.

James Eterno said...

Follow the Money
Where the heck did True the Vote’s Engelbrecht, a self-described “housewife” in Texas, get the dollars to mount this multi-county attack on Georgians?

In 2016, our investigator Zach D. Roberts confronted Engelbrecht with her funding by the Koch Brothers, which she didn’t deny. ProPublica traced their lucre to the Bradley Foundation which our team exposed as the funders of attempts to wrongly purge Black voters in Milwaukee.

Don’t discount True the Vote. The lawyer who is leading their attack in Georgia is James Bopp Jr. who argued for Citizens United in the Supreme Court case that opened the door to the money poisoning of elections.

Follow the List
That’s the money. But their challenge list supposedly came from the US Post Office’s National Change of Address registry.

Sounds official. Sounds legit. It isn’t. In 2017 and 2018, Brian Kemp, then both Secretary of State and candidate for Governor, used a similar list to remove hundreds of thousands of voters on the grounds they had moved out of Georgia.

The Palast Investigative Fund, working for Salon, hired the nation’s top experts in the use of postal files and found that Kemp’s list was as phony as a three dollar bill. Kemp also claimed he relied on the Post Office, but the experts found Kemp had wrongly barred 340,355 from the polls.

One of the voters we located, accused of illegally registering from a former address: 92-year-old Christine Jordan, cousin of the late Dr. Martin Luther King. I was with her when she was bounced from the polls.

Stacey Abrams cited our story in declaring she’d been cheated out of victory. And cheated she was.

In 2020, the ACLU released a new report by the Palast Investigative Fund in which we identified, by name and address, another 198,351 Georgians wrongly removed. Black Voters Matter sued in federal court to reverse the removals.

Crucially, Black Voters Matter, working with the Hispanic rights group Southwest Voter Registration and Education Project, used postcards, billboards, phone calls and publicity to re-register the victims we identified. The result: Georgia’s voters, not the purge, chose the President and Senate.

That didn’t make Trump nor his MAGA maniacs in the Legislature happy.

And the federal case (in which I testified for Black Voters Matter) has won a grudging agreement from the state that Georgia must follow the complex process in federal law meant stop the removal of innocent voters.

But now, innocents beware.

Anon2323 said...

here you go james lol!!!!!!! DEBUNKED 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

https://rumble.com/vfbwwh-part-1-sidney-powell-is-not-backing-down.html

https://rumble.com/vfbwzt-part-2-sidney-powell-gives-her-side-of-the-story.html

https://rumble.com/vfbxl7-part-3-why-wasnt-sidney-powells-evidence-examined-this-will-infuriate-you.html

https://rumble.com/vfbxqh-part-4-sidney-powell-discusses-whats-actually-happening-in-america.html

James Eterno said...

Watch what they put in court papers, not the nonsense they spout on the internet. Court is what matters here.

James Eterno said...

Dear Sidney admitted in court papers that she bullshits and is not meant to be taken literally but I am now supposed to believe what she says.

Anon2323 said...

I AM SUPPOSED TO BELIEVE YOUR ARTICLE ON WORDS YOU USED TO MAKE AN ASSUMPTION? LOL.

LIES LIES LIES, THIS IS NOT FINISHED, FARRRRR FROM OVER. I CANNOT WAIT FOR YOUR BRAIN TO EXPLODE WHEN YOU REALIZE HOW MUCH FRAUD THERE WAS.

WE WILL FOLLOW TOGETHER DO NOT WORRY.